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Akira86

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Oct 25, 2017
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But again, people do this all the time. Even I do it sometimes even if it's as a joke and I realize I'm wrong for it afterwards but it is that heavily baked into our culture.

Call me Don Quixote then. Just because a thing will probably never exist doesn't mean you don't stop fighting for it to one day exist.

i mean...so we can all forgive and forget then? especially the forget part.
Who can blame her? My man radiates Big Dick Energy:

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Cipherr

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Oct 26, 2017
13,488
The hell?

What's gross is the harassment. Not his light hearted video with wacky music. And if they are fine with publicly harassing him online then why the fuck should he go out his way to censor what they happily did themselves?

Exactly. I hate the "Celebrities exist to be our punching bags and no retaliation is allowed" crew. It's such bullshit. Put your name out there to harass somebody and they owe you NOTHING in terms of censoring your name. To hell with that.
 

Lunar Wolf

Banned
Nov 6, 2017
16,237
Los Angeles
And i addressed that in my response.

Actors say shit about their characters all the time during press and whatnot. Doesn't mean they ACTUALLY give a shit.

Then there is no real answer if you don't want to believe what they say. He might or might not ship. We don't know.

You mean during the time he still had two movies to fulfill? Gee I wonder why he would play along!

What is there to play along with? He could've just said he doesn't ship Rey and Finn just like Daisy said she wasn't for Reylo and just like Adam said that a school shooter wouldn't make for a good boyfriend for Rey.
 
Dec 12, 2017
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Then there is no real answer if you don't want to believe what they say. He might or might not ship. We don't know.



What is there to play along with? He could've just said he doesn't ship Rey and Finn just like Daisy said she wasn't for Reylo and just like Adam said that a school shooter wouldn't make for a good boyfriend for Rey.
Or he could do what press junkets are for and tease nonsense.
 

Seesaw15

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,824
And i addressed that in my response.

Actors say shit about their characters all the time during press and whatnot. Doesn't mean they ACTUALLY give a shit.

Spielberg said it best when he was trying to make Shia LaBeouf the next Tom Hanks.
When you're on a press tour you play ball and sell your movie. Unless the actor is saying the same shit after the press tour/contract is over I always assume they don't care.

Like Boyega and Oscar are clearly out of contract and done.(3:01)
 

TheMango55

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
5,788
And i addressed that in my response.

Actors say shit about their characters all the time during press and whatnot. Doesn't mean they ACTUALLY give a shit.

You mean during the time he still had two movies to fulfill? Gee I wonder why he would play along!

Yeah what he said before the movies came out and what he is saying after it's released line up perfectly, but it's totally a coincidence!

At that time he was totally shilling and now he's totally trolling! His actual opinion is a complete mystery!

I'm not even criticizing the guy, I think it's great entertainment and I love it when celebrities humanize themselves and act like real people.
 
Dec 12, 2017
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Yeah what he said before the movies came out and what he is saying after it's released line up perfectly, but it's totally a coincidence!

At that time he was totally shilling and now he's totally trolling! His actual opinion is a complete mystery!
It's almost like the context where and why he got cheeky and said "laying pipe" matters.

Shocking, I know.
 

DorkLord54

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,469
Michigan
I'm pretty sure most actors are like Harrison Ford, where they couldn't honestly give two shits about the details and other such stuff of the fictitious universes they're a part of.
Spielberg said it best when he was trying to make Shia LaBeouf the next Tom Hanks.

When you're on a press tour you play ball and sell your movie. Unless the actor is saying the same shit after the press tour/contract is over I always assume they don't care.

Like Boyega and Oscar are clearly out of contract and done.(3:01)

Then there's Alec Guinness, who probably wouldn't give a shit either way but had enough clout it doesn't matter.
 

Hugare

Banned
Aug 31, 2018
1,853
Okay, misunderstood. Thought you were talking about the sexism part, esp since I'm pretty sure that line is intentionally supposed to be kinda icky to make you hate him even more.

I looked it up to make sure you weren't bluffing. That's surprising, given how close she is to Lindsay Ellis, who was pretty open about her hatred of Landis and his treatment of women.

Even being chill won't stop angry SW fans, esp if they already have it out for you. RJ tried doing that for a while before realising that these people were never going to leave him alone and so began responding, while I'm pretty sure neither Ahmed Best or KMT said anything and still got hell from fans for playing characters they didn't like.
Those pissbabies were shitting up Rian Johnson's mentions during unrelated Knives Out tweets.

Fuck trying to appease those fucking clowns.

Yeah, and responding to bullies is working so well for him, right?

Have you ever been bullied irl? Responding is the worse choice. Always. Specially on the internet, since they are all anonymous.

Eventually they will stop, or diminish at least.

Keeping on fueling the fire is stupid

Show me ONE situation where someone bullied online "teached them" and then the bully stoped.

This is not how it works

He should look no further than Harrison Ford. THAT'S how you dont give a fuck.

Not making video montages about it. That's far from not giving a fuck.
 
Dec 12, 2017
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Yeah, and responding to bullies is working so well for him, right?

Have you ever been bullied irl? Responding is the worse choice. Always. Specially on the internet, since they are all anonymous.

Eventually they will stop, or diminish at least.

Keeping on fueling the fire is stupid

Show me INE situation where someone bullied online "teached them" and then the bully stoped.

This is not how it works
Fuck turning the other cheek. We are expected to do that shit faaaaar to often.
 

Ryan.

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
12,932
If I ever had the opportunity to get back at my bullies I would in a heartbeat. John doing what others wish they could do so bad.
 
Dec 12, 2017
9,686
I'm glad that you are not famous, because if you really would go against anonymous fanboys across the internet ...

You would be a miserable person, I garantee you
Rian Johnson doesn't engage with his detractors...did that stop them from asshattery? No.

Kelly Marie Tran didn't engage with her detractors. Did that stop them pissbabery?
No.

So stop trying to take the "if you ignore it, they will stop" bullshit. Everyone deals in their own way. John is choosing to dunk on these clowns.

"If your blood cells would just ignore a virus entering your body, that would be the appropriate response." 🙄
 

Seesaw15

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, and responding to bullies is working so well for him, right?

Have you ever been bullied irl? Responding is the worse choice. Always. Specially on the internet, since they are all anonymous.

Eventually they will stop, or diminish at least.

Keeping on fueling the fire is stupid

Show me ONE situation where someone bullied online "teached them" and then the bully stoped.

This is not how it works

He should look no further than Harrison Ford. THAT'S how you dont give a fuck.

Not making video montages about it. That's far from not giving a fuck.

Lol. What are you doing? Dudes been getting targeted by racist on the internet since he was cast in 2013. Him not responding isn't going to stop racist for harassing him for being black in their nerd franchise. He could either leave social media all together ( which is dumb for business/personal reasons), turn off comments ( which is dumb for business/personal reasons) or use his platform to clown on these people which at the very least is cathartic.
 
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Oct 31, 2017
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Yeah, and responding to bullies is working so well for him, right?

Have you ever been bullied irl? Responding is the worse choice. Always. Specially on the internet, since they are all anonymous.

Eventually they will stop, or diminish at least.

Keeping on fueling the fire is stupid

Show me ONE situation where someone bullied online "teached them" and then the bully stoped.

what?
 

Deleted member 42055

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Apr 12, 2018
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How are Rey's and Poe's actors so done?

I mean for one I think Oscar using the phrase "Disney overlord" in regards to a possible Finn Poe homosexual relationship.. i'm certainly not the only person to ever notice/say this all those actors look very very over it all (Especially when you compare their enthusiasm around the force awakens to now) and how can you blame them?
 
Nov 7, 2017
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To be fair, Laying Pipe isn't slang I hear often, so maybe I'm wrong....? But, really, if two men are talking about a woman behind her back saying they want to fuck her or lay pipe, she probably won't be too pleased.

This looks like it's turning into a side-track though. Anyways, twitter is terrible and I don't know how people like Boyega deal with it. At least he seems to be over it. I hope.

Also, that British accent is amazing. I kinda wish we got that in the movies!
Hahahahhaahh

bruh you ever heard two women talk about dudes? Same shit

I swear
 
Mar 10, 2018
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You didn't read my post where I said I do it too, right? And that I'm trying to move past it, huh?
But the thing is, there's nothing inherently sexist about using the phrase "big dick energy," so long as you use it in the appropriate context. The only times I've heard that phrase used is when said by women. I doubt many women would have an issue with your post.

Regarding Boyega's statement: women also use the phrase, oftentimes in reference to themselves. Just because a woman talks about "riding the dick" doesn't mean she's self-hating. Women can and do openly express their enjoyment of dick. I can guarantee you that if Adam Driver made a comment about Kylo crashin' Rey's walls, these same people who are pressed over Boyega would be rejoicing.
 

Lunar Wolf

Banned
Nov 6, 2017
16,237
Los Angeles
But the thing is, there's nothing inherently sexist about using the phrase "big dick energy," so long as you use it in the appropriate context. The only times I've heard that phrase used is when said by women. I doubt many women would have an issue with your post.

Regarding Boyega's statement: women also use the phrase, oftentimes in reference to themselves. Just because a woman talks about "riding the dick" doesn't mean she's self-hating. Women can and do openly express their enjoyment of dick. I can guarantee you that if Adam Driver made a comment about Kylo crashin' Rey's walls, these same people who are pressed over Boyega would be rejoicing.

I mean I thought so too but I don't want to offend anyone that thinks otherwise and I'm willing to concede if anyone finds it offensive.

Btw I'm not a man and I've heard mostly women use "Big Dick Energy" as well whether it describes men or women so that's definitely a habitual phrase for me now.
 

Hugare

Banned
Aug 31, 2018
1,853
Rian Johnson doesn't engage with his detractors...did that stop them from asshattery? No.

Kelly Marie Tran didn't engage with her detractors. Did that stop them pissbabery?
No.

So stop trying to take the "if you ignore it, they will stop" bullshit. Everyone deals in their own way. John is choosing to dunk on these clowns.

"If your blood cells would just ignore a virus entering your body, that would be the appropriate response." 🙄
RJ certainly tried to respond a lot about TLJ, c'mon now. And how that worked out for him? It got worse, from my perspective

And these thing take time. TLJ was released 2 years ago. It aill get better with time, but fueling the discussion will make it last longer.

I'm not losing sleep because of this whole situation, I'm just saying these thing because they are clearly bothered by those "fans" and for their OWN sake, they should be more like Harrison Ford

Making a video about how you dont give a fuck, is giving a fuck

These trolls get a hard on by being humiliated and etc. It shows that they have the attention from the person being bullied.
 

Riversands

Banned
Nov 21, 2017
5,669
If he were in kpop industry, his career would be over. I dont think he should treat the comments like that, even though mostly they are negative comments
 
Dec 12, 2017
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RJ certainly tried to respond a lot about TLJ, c'mon now. And how that worked out for him? It got worse, from my perspective

And these thing take time. TLJ was released 2 years from now.

I'm not losing sleep because of this whole situation, I'm just saying these thing because they are clearly bothered by those "fans" and for their OWN sake, they should be more like Harrison Ford

Making a video about how you dont give a fuck, is giving a fuck
Where does anyone, including John, say he didn't give a fuck what his detractors are saying? He addressed their shitposting with a hilarious montage reducing it to rubbish.

And John Boyega doesn't need to be more like Harrison Ford or any fucking body.

Why are you assigning guidelines on how he should react to HIS detractors, Mr. Not Losing Any Sleep?
 

AlexBasch

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,348
As someone who just started watching Star Wars movies last year...

Holy shit, the fans are fucking insufferable. I'm glad the man got paid and he's telling them to fuck off.
 

TheMango55

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
5,788
If he were in kpop industry, his reputation would get ruined. I dont think he should treat the comments like that, even though mostly they are negative comments

It's a good thing he's not in kpop and thus doesn't really have that much to worry about.

Hollywood absolutely has huge problems, but from everything I've seen about it, kpop is a nightmare.
 

residentgrigo

Banned
Oct 30, 2019
3,726
Germany
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John Boyega is a true fan. But let´s be honest. That has been known since December of 2017. He burned that movie down in a way not even Mark did. It took me 2 years to come to his side and Mark´s side but the ST really was a mistake. He was a hero. I just couldn't see it.

Gwendoline Christie liked his post btw. I wonder why... (Not a new development though.)
 

DorkLord54

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,469
Michigan
As someone who just started watching Star Wars movies last year...

Holy shit, the fans are fucking insufferable. I'm glad the man got paid and he's telling them to fuck off.
SW fans are some of the worst creatures this planet has produced. Probably one of the few fanbases where calling them entitled is completely in-line and accurate.
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John Boyega is a true fan. But let´s be honest. That has been known since december of 2017. He burned that movie down in a way not even Mark did. It took me 2 years to come to his side and Mark´s side but the ST really was a mistake. He was a hero. I just couldn't see it.

Gwendoline Christie liked his post btw. I wonder why...
I'm pretty sure both Mark and John are fine with the films themselves, even if they are/were disappointed with their roles in the films (not to mention - regardless of his current thoughts on TLJ's Luke - he's probably the most friendly of that film's cast with RJ). Most of John's anger esp seems to largely be based on the fanbase, who have targeted the dude before we even knew much about his role in the trilogy. The only actors I can think of who actually hate SW are Jake Lloyd, Harrison Ford, and Alec Guinness.
 

Hugare

Banned
Aug 31, 2018
1,853
Where does anyone, including John, say he didn't give a fuck what his detractors are saying? He addressed their shitposting with a hilarious montage reducing it to rubbish.

And John Boyega doesn't need to be more like Harrison Ford or any fucking body.

Why are you assigning guidelines on how he should react to HIS detractors, Mr. Not Losing Any Sleep?

"He addressed their shitposting with a hilarious montage reducing it to rubbish."
While dancing. If that doesn't represent "not giving a fuck", I would like to ask you what mental gymnastics you did to interpret otherwise.

I'm not assigning guidelines. He seems to be bothered by this topic, since he is giving it so much attention, so in that situation, I wouldn't respond to it. And I think that he shouldn't.
"Assigning guidelines", lol, is he going to read my post? He does whatever he wants, for all I care.

I'm just giving my own opinion about it
 

DorkLord54

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,469
Michigan
"He addressed their shitposting with a hilarious montage reducing it to rubbish."
While dancing. If that doesn't represent "not giving a fuck", I would like to ask you what mental gymnastics you did to interpret otherwise.

I'm not assigning guidelines. He seems to be bothered by this topic, since he is giving it so much attention, so in that situation, I wouldn't respond to it. And I think that he shouldn't.
"Assigning guidelines", lol, is he going to read my post? He does whatever he wants, for all I care.

I'm just giving my own opinion about it
Idk, if this were similar to the whole escort thing that was going on with DSP during 2017, that's where the best thing to do is just let it implode on itself like he was smart enough to do for once. With SW fans tho, it doesn't matter - they'd harass him regardless of whether he responds or not.
 

residentgrigo

Banned
Oct 30, 2019
3,726
Germany
I'm pretty sure both Mark and John are fine with the films themselves, even if they are/were disappointed with their roles in the films. Most of John's anger esp seems to largely be based on the fanbase, who have targeted the dude before we even knew much about his role in the trilogy. The only actors I can think of who actually hate SW are Jake Lloyd, Harrison Ford, and Alec Guinness.

TFA and TLJ work as a films in a certain way but it really is complicated. TROS can fuck off and torpedoed those films. Let´s not get into this.

Boyega is not a fan of TLJ and on a fundamental level:

Jake Lloyd was destroyed by SW. A sad story. Alec Guinness is complicated. He likes Star Wars 1977. We know that:
There's a sort of wonderful freshness about it... like a wonderful fresh air. When I came out of the cinema... I thought, 'London's sort of gritty, and dirty and sort of rubbish, isn't it?' Because this had all been so invigorating.

I'll just stick to one source but there is more. Harrison Ford likes at least Empire (he said that during the 30th-anniversary screening) as a film but he has no personal passion for SW. A bit different from what a high amount of the ST crews is saying about their films and a lot are legit SW fans. Like Boyega, Mark or JJ. Oh yeah... JJ publically dismissed the artistic integrity of TFA last month, which is the biggest dismissal so far:


The fanbase is in the worst place it EVER was right now... Disney cracked a few whips too many. With me too.
 
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Desparadina

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
609
RJ certainly tried to respond a lot about TLJ, c'mon now. And how that worked out for him? It got worse, from my perspective

And these thing take time. TLJ was released 2 years ago. It aill get better with time, but fueling the discussion will make it last longer.

I'm not losing sleep because of this whole situation, I'm just saying these thing because they are clearly bothered by those "fans" and for their OWN sake, they should be more like Harrison Ford

Making a video about how you dont give a fuck, is giving a fuck

These trolls get a hard on by being humiliated and etc. It shows that they have the attention from the person being bullied.

I don't think it's a good idea to tell a black person how to respond to the very unwarranted levels of racist responses towards him. I've seen reylos try and make john out to be a predator over Daisy. Or how the career of a black man will pale in comparison to Adam Driver (a white man who will probably be afforded more opportunities in Hollywood than John will)

The way you're trying to tone police his responses isn't cute. He doesn't need to follow anyone's example either because none of the other castmates get even nearly the same amount of scrutiny for saying some of the same shit he's said.
 
Dec 12, 2017
9,686
I'm not assigning guidelines. He seems to be bothered by this topic, since he is giving it so much attention, so in that situation, I wouldn't respond to it. And I think that he shouldn't.
"Assigning guidelines", lol, is he going to read my post? He does whatever he wants, for all I care.

I'm just giving my own opinion about it
No, it isn't just your opinion.

You are saying he should act like Harrison Ford, someone you clearly deem to be handling this "correctly".
 

Zen

"This guy are sick" says The Wise Ones
Member
Nov 1, 2017
9,669
Part of the flack Boyega has had to deal with from fans was also from criticizing his role in TLJ. People on this site took that as an affront and for a while were treating Boyega like a pariah just because he didn't wholly praise TLJ. Reylo shippers are just the most recent.
 

BlueTsunami

Member
Oct 29, 2017
8,524
Are some honestly trying direct a grown man on what he should and shouldn't do? Pro Bono publicists giving Boyega pointers. If he wants to dunk on trolls then let the man dunk.