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What is your favorite Treasure Shoot 'em up game?

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Favorite Shoot 'Em Up?

  • Radiant Silvergun

    Votes: 27 25.7%

  • Ikaruga

    Votes: 41 39.0%

  • Gradius V

    Votes: 20 19.0%

  • Bangai-O

    Votes: 14 13.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • Total voters
    105

Deleted member 23850

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Four games they blessed us with, all of them are classics. But if you had to pick one, which one would be your favorite?

Radiant Silvergun for me. Wish I wasn't a stupid kid when I had a Saturn, I would have asked for it for Christmas and gotten it.
 
voOsh

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I don't play as many shmups as I used to but the weapon system in Radiant Silvergun is so impressive and what puts it ahead of other titles. The sword in particular is a really interesting weapon -- I mean come on it's a melee weapon in a shoot 'em up!
 

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Ikaruga, probably. I like what I've played of Gradius V but the unskippable cutscenes and overall length probably bring it down a step. I don't like Radiant Silvergun's insistence that the player follows the game's chaining system or be left underpowered, but the aesthetics are totally unmatched.

If we're including their 2D action games more broadly, I think that Alien Soldier and the Sin and Punishment games are also among their best.

I don't think Gunstar Heroes really holds a candle to any of these.
 

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The first Sin & Punishment by far.

Out of the poll options, I'm not sure. Ikaruga is the most popular but I found its mechanics the most tedious.
 
Jamesac68

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The single best level Treasure ever made was the "flying on a torn-off chunk of aircraft carrier" section in Sin & Punishment. Having said that, I'd give Gunstar Heroes the #1 spot despite my incredibly fondness for the entire Bangai-o series.
 
LaneDS

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Did that 360 port of Radiant Silvergun ever make it anywhere else? That game is great.
 
sir_crocodile

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Astro Boy: Omega Factor is better then all of them and has shmup sections so in theory that lol

But as a shmup it's Radiant Silvergun
 
ghibli99

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I put so much time into Radiant Silvergun... that game really changed the way I looked at shooters and what they could be system/scoring-wise. Awesome game. I was never able to get into Ikaruga for some reason, although I certainly do appreciate it. Gradius V kicked my butt, and I didn't play Bangaio all that much on DC, but I did have fun with it for a while.

Oh damn, I completely forgot RS is 360 BC on XB1. Gotta fire it up now!
 
andymcc

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Gradius V is by far the best and it's probably because it is the least Treasure-like.

Radiant Silvergun is barely designed levels padding out some really cool bosses.

Ikaruga's gimmick makes it frustrating to play the "correct" chaining way (who wants to be penalized for killing enemies, ugh).
 

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My truthful answer is possibly Ikaruga, but Gradius V is going to be hard done by if it remains in last place. Yeah it goes on too long, but so does Silvergun.
 

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andymcc said:
most people don't group shmup/STG/shoot-em-ups in the same category as on-rails shooters.
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They did more often in the '80s and first half of the '90s but in the late '90s and '00s, the term "shooter" became increasingly used for the FPS genre so people started using Zzap magazine's old "shmup" term. But instead of keeping it broad, its definition often got narrowed to exclude rail shooters. 2d shooters and rail shooters are notably different but I think calling both of them "shoot 'em ups" is fair.
 
Fisty

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Lol come on, no option for other and didnt list some of the biggest shmups they did
 

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Bangai O is like a fucking addiction once you learn what its all about. Everyone's first experience is that intro level of alllllll the missiles coming in and dying and then that fucking professor laughing. It'll never stop until you learn how to use the burst deflection stuff (forget what its called) to redirect enemy missiles. They needed to emphasize that tool soooooo hard that they did that as the intro lol. Once you get down that you really gotta rely on that it becomes incredible.

Bangai O Spirits and its 360 counterpart were my jam and then some. Plus they had multiplayer with level creation :D
 
Ultimate Bear Cub

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I enjoyed Gradius V the most. Gradius is my first shmup series. I can't not go for it despite Treasure's brilliant reputation.
 
Kyubajin

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Between Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga I must've spent hundreds of hours... Still can't 1CC either one. Gradius V is the perfect Gradius game too, so hard to chose just one.
 
Palazzo

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Fisty said:
Lol come on, no option for other and didnt list some of the biggest shmups they did
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Those are just about the only shmups they did. Action-platformers aren't really the same kind of thing as shmups.

I love Gradius V the most out of those four. I wish it got going a little faster, but its boss fights and stages from 4 on are phenomenal.
 

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Ikaruga would probably land in a top 5 or so games list for me.

I really appreciate Bangai-O though.

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I loved them all, but I'm going to have to go with Radiant Silvergun... I'm still waiting for that PC port.
 
Serein

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Bakuretsu Muteki Bangai-O!

It's my favourite Dreamcast game and it's just so satisfying when you unleash a 400-max burst and wreck everything around you.
 
Noog

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Sin and Punishment Star Successor was the first Treasure game I ever played. I bought it complete for Wii for $4.99 a little bit after it came out.

It's a beautiful, exciting game that I would adore to see remastered.
 
Kent

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Rayge said:
I loved them all, but I'm going to have to go with Radiant Silvergun... I'm still waiting for that PC port.
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Your best bet will probably be to play it on Xbox - or if Xbox backwards compatibility ever makes it to PC, I suppose.

IIRC Microsoft fully-funded the XBLA version themselves, which had to have all of its assets remade, and I believe they retain ownership of them.
 

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i could never really get into bangai-o, and i tried across a whole lot of tiny levels spread through the three games. it's got a mario maker feel to it (on a macro level) that isn't for me.
 
julian

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I really need to play more of the rest, but Ikaruga never clicked with me. Radiant Silvergun on the other hand I spent dozens of hours playing.
 
Xythantiops

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I'm a huge fan of the Gradius series and its spinoffs. Gradius V is my second favorite Gradius game followed closely behind Gradius Gaiden. I never understood the complaints about the two short unskippable cutscenes. They never bothered me. I'll agree that the length is a bit on the long side though.

I still need to give a shout out to the Radiant Silvergun soundtrack. One of the best.
 
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