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What is the worst Best Picture nominee in the last 10 years?

The worst best picture nominee of the last 10 years is...

  • The Blind Side

    Votes: 85 15.7%

  • Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close

    Votes: 86 15.9%

  • The Help

    Votes: 16 3.0%

  • Vice

    Votes: 13 2.4%

  • Green Book

    Votes: 94 17.3%

  • Bohemian Rhapsody

    Votes: 215 39.7%

  • other

    Votes: 33 6.1%
  • Total voters
    542

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Don't forget that Bohemian portrays same-gender relationships as predatory, whether intending to or not, while also seeming to erase Freddie's bisexuality, implying he jumped from straight to gay, and his "turning" gay was due to experiencing the "Hollywood lifestyle" of drugs and other corruption.

So it's not just a subpar movie, it's as problematic as some of the others on this list- albeit, in a different way.

Article about it: https://www.indiewire.com/2018/11/b...ay-bi-erasure-straightwashing-1202017372/amp/
 
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hiredhand

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Garlador said:
It's been more than 10 years, but I'm still going with "The Reader".

Barely 63% on Rotten Tomatoes, nominated for Best Picture of DOZENS of much better films.

My roommate and I both watched it and, yeesh, it was actively insulting to the audience's intelligence.
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Weinstein Oscar campaigning at its finest/worst.

The Academy do also seem to like Stephen Dauldry much more than the critics or the audience. He has three best picture nominations out of five films directed. That's one more than PT Anderson and the same amount as the Coens.
 
Just_a_Mouse

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Mewshuji said:
Don't forget that Bohemian portrays same-gender relationships as predatory, whether intending to or not, while also seeming to erase Freddie's bisexuality, implying he jumped from straight to gay, and his "turning" gay was due to experiencing the "Hollywood lifestyle" of drugs and other corruption.

So it's not just a subpar movie, it's as problematic as some of the others on this list- albeit, in a different way.

Article about it: https://www.indiewire.com/2018/11/b...ay-bi-erasure-straightwashing-1202017372/amp/
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Wow, wtf. I hadn't really been paying attention to this one, that's really messed up to hear. Hollywood stays gross as hell.
 

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hiredhand said:
I left it out because it was better received (according to Metacritic) than all the films in the poll and even some that were not in it (Les Miserables, Lion, Hacksaw Ridge, Inglourious Basterds).

Personally, I don't think it's that bad though I agree that the choice to end it with real footage is pretty terrible.
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Interesting. I would have assumed that critics would have torn that film apart. Guess not though.
 
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It's fairly clearly Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close. It's not as problematic as many others that have been nominated but fucking hell it's a terrible film.
 
Androidsleeps

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Garlador said:
It's been more than 10 years, but I'm still going with "The Reader".

Barely 63% on Rotten Tomatoes, nominated for Best Picture of DOZENS of much better films.

My roommate and I both watched it and, yeesh, it was actively insulting to the audience's intelligence.
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Kate Winslet's performance in that movie is better than any performance in the poll, though. But yeah, it was quite forgettable.
 
Elegant Weapon

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Green Book is a trite film without considering the terrible feel good racism it sells to white boomer target audience

It's trash all the way around
 
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Joni said:
In 10 years it will not be in the list because everyone is going to go 'what movie?'
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I don't even like La La Land because of my irrational hatred of musicals in general but I disagree, I think that movie's gonna have more staying power than 90+% of the Best Picture nominees this decade. There's no question in my mind that more people are going to be watching that in 2029 than people who watch The King's Speech or The Help.
 

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2018 was really bad. I enjoyed Vice, Bohemian Rhapsody, and Black Panther, but they had no business being nominated. I'm going to go with Black Panther. There is nothing that really makes it stand apart from the pack.

Not getting the La La Land hate... I don't like musicals, but I like that one.
 
cyba89

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Got to be something from 2012 (The Artist, Extremely close, Hugo Cabret, War Horse) or 2018 (Green Book, Black Panther, Bohemian Rhapsody).

Those were some weak years.
 
GamerJM

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Look, I get that Bohemian Rhapsody and Green Book are morally offensive, but Dunkirk damn near put me to sleep.
 
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Worst? Black Panther.

IMO it did not deserve to be nominated. It was just one in the line of MCU films.
 
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Prototype Viktor said:
Out if context this question is wild

In context, why was this even a question
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Well, the person I was replying said:
Joni said:
And of course, like Green Book there is the racial element. It is appropriating a typical black genre.
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I interpreted that as the movie being bad just because it is appropriating jazz music. Black Panther is appropriating a typically white genre. I don't think anyone would argue that it's a bad film because of that.

The debate around La La Land being problematic is kinda tired. People often create art about the things they know or have experienced and Chazelle happens to be a priviledged white filmmaker that wanted to be a jazz musician at some point in his life. So it is quite natural that he has directed two films that are about aspiring white jazz musicians. Also if a character in a film says or does something "problematic", it doesn't mean that the film is automatically problematic.
 
Soliloquy of a Dogge

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Figgles said:
I'm going to go with Black Panther. There is nothing that really makes it stand apart from the pack.
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One of the few films in Hollywood that has executed a portrayal of Afrofuturism in a progressive and thoughtful manner with solid writing and acting performances in a genre where those are few and far between. Tackled thematic elements (very effectively in some cases, simply alright in others) that have been completely ignored or barely explored in the comicbook films. Non-whitewashed award winning costuming, scoring and design that represented the African diaspora authentically unlike the vast majority of Hollywood films. Critically acclaimed and regarded as one of the best comicbook movies ever produced.

I'd say it was well deserving of its nomination and did plenty to stand out from the pack. Especially in its own genre.
 
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I haven't seen most of those so I'd have to go with The Artist.
 
UnpopularBlargh

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Extremely Loud. Nothing else comes close. Even Bohemian has Rami Malek's performance going for it. Same with Green Book with Ali and Mortensen.

Extremely Loud is just bad on almost all fronts.
 

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Joni said:
It just feels so cookie cutter, which is blinded by the songs. So I was just seeing a concert without connecting emotionally. And of course, like Green Book there is the racial element. It is appropriating a typical black genre.
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How many musicals are made today? How many movie goers give a shit about jazz music? Being a musical already excludes a huge audience segment. How is it cookie cutter versus the average best picture nominee?
 
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Soliloquy of a Dogge said:
One of the few films in Hollywood that has executed a portrayal of Afrofuturism in a progressive and thoughtful manner with solid writing and acting performances in a genre where those are few and far between. Tackled thematic elements (very effectively in some cases, simply alright in others) that have been completely ignored or barely explored in the comicbook films. Non-whitewashed award winning costuming, scoring and design that represented the African diaspora authentically unlike the vast majority of Hollywood films. Critically acclaimed and regarded as one of the best comicbook movies ever produced.

I'd say it was well deserving of its nomination and did plenty to stand out from the pack. Especially in its own genre.
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About that scoring part, this is Ludwig Göransson, the Oscar winning composer of Black Panther.

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hiredhand said:
About that scoring part, this is Ludwig Göransson, the Oscar winning composer of Black Panther.

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Yes, I'm very well aware of who Ludwig Goransson is.

Do you think that white composers, ones who take months to develop a score by visiting countries in Africa and learning/working with African musicians, can't create an authentic score that is uniquely representative of the African diaspora?

The man did an incredible job. The fact that he's white doesn't dismiss this fact.
 

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Joni said:
In 10 years it will not be in the list because everyone is going to go 'what movie?'
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Most of the movies nominated for best picture are not big hits and most people won't see them. I went into the movie expecting to hate it and ended up loving it. It actually made me more open to the musical genre as a whole. I forgot some of these movies existed and I watch too many movies.
 
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Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close was so cack-handed, insensitive, and plain awful that I can't give this to anything else.
 

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Soliloquy of a Dogge said:
One of the few films in Hollywood that has executed a portrayal of Afrofuturism in a progressive and thoughtful manner with solid writing and acting performances in a genre where those are few and far between. Tackled thematic elements (very effectively in some cases, simply alright in others) that have been completely ignored or barely explored in the comicbook films. Non-whitewashed award winning costuming, scoring and design that represented the African diaspora authentically unlike the vast majority of Hollywood films. Critically acclaimed and regarded as one of the best comicbook movies ever produced.

I'd say it was well deserving of its nomination and did plenty to stand out from the pack. Especially in its own genre.
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That's the thing though, most of the elements were solid or good. Outside of costume design, was anything great? Everything adds up to a good enjoyable movie, but great? BP noms to me should be great.
 
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Bohemian Rhapsody is an actively reprehensible film on so many levels that one loses an immense amount of respect for Brian May and Roger Taylor for signing off on it in the state that it released in. Yes, it made a ton of money, but what good is money when there's a film out there that goes out of its way to make every member of Queen look like an idiot and handles the dynamics of Freddie Mercury's complicated personal life with the grace of a bloated walrus carcass? The only thing that the film gets right on any level was eventually showing the real Queen, but not until after 2+ hours of unconscionable character assassination, outright lies, musty biopic tropes that date back to the Mezozoic and plain bad filmmaking.
 
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I am happy to say I've successfully avoided watching every movie mentioned in this thread aside from Birdman (and NCFOM, but that wasn't being suggested) which isn't close to being the worst, Manchester, and two mediocre nominees Argo, and The Reader. I would pick one of those two but I'm sure almost all of the other options are far worse...
 
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Soliloquy of a Dogge said:
Gonna have to explain this one to me.

It doesn't make much sense, especially put in the larger context of the comparison of Green Books racially insensitive missteps that were naive and shortsighted. And just plain racist-apologist in its whitewashing, to be frank.
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According to Wikipedia, cultural appropriation is the adoption of elements of one culture by members of another culture. Black Panther is adapting an element of white American culture (super hero comics) to an African(-American) context. I am in no way saying this is a bad thing.

My comparison was with La La Land, not Green Book. I don't think Green Book's insensitive missteps were really about cultural approriation.

Soliloquy of a Dogge said:
Do you think that white composers, ones who take months to develop a score by visiting countries in Africa and learning/working with African musicians, can't create an authentic score that is uniquely representative of the African diaspora?
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He probably can't. He can create a great score inspired by African music and musicians but I wouldn't go around calling that score "authentic" or "non-whitewashed".
 
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I'd say Bohemian Rhapsody. BR is a mess and I find the performances quite bland. The rest of the list is at worst a bunch of good performances with bland scripts. Like a string of pleasant TBS original film.
 
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Everyone here should be required to see Extremely Loud. It's the one true answer. It's not even close.
 
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