Not the whole cast... did Marvel forget that Mordo exists?
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What If...? |Spoiler OT| Groot Was One Of Us?
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I know we only get snippets of the watcher each ep, but damn he sounded like he meant it when he said he'd punish strange if he could lmao.
Great episode
Also hope that everyone that has said "can relate" or whatever with Strange dooming *the entire universe* for one person he loves, have the same opinion about what Wanda did
Also hope that everyone that has said "can relate" or whatever with Strange dooming *the entire universe* for one person he loves, have the same opinion about what Wanda did
There's an Avengers-esque shot of several of these characters (like Captain Carter and T'Challa Star-Lord) in a couple of the promo trailers for the show, so it's likely happening
Uatu will get involved when the threat goes multiversal. I'm calling it.
And did anyone else think that it was the Ancient One who was causing all of Christine's other deaths? Some, like the guy shooting her at the pizzeria and the hotel blowing up, are a bit too ridiculous to be only just fate.
And did anyone else think that it was the Ancient One who was causing all of Christine's other deaths? Some, like the guy shooting her at the pizzeria and the hotel blowing up, are a bit too ridiculous to be only just fate.
I don't know...I thought the episode was a cool concept but it was also so repetitive that I don't think the end landed as much as it was probably intended to. I also still don't like the animation style - it feels really bad at portraying the kinds of moments that would look really good with a physical actor.
Seems probable that the Ancient One or her agents were involved in making sure time unfolded as it was supposed to, yeah.
Seems probable that the Ancient One or her agents were involved in making sure time unfolded as it was supposed to, yeah.
When the TVA are no more, she's gotta be like... Fine... I'll do it myself
Oh, yeah. I forgot to mention that either the TVA doesn't exist in this universe or it wasn't gonna produce an evil Kang variant and was left alone.
If the Ancient One has to intervene to cause Christine to die, then it's not a fixed point, just some occurrence that one faction wants to ensure happens, because of the result. That isn't what's going on. They showed a lot of different ways she could die to show that the scope of the universe course correcting itself is limitless. Which is why when the course correction is completely impeded, it collapses on itself. It makes no sense that the Ancient One is trying to kill Christine specifically.
As mentioned before, it makes me want Marvel Studios to do a 2D animation project.
There's no point in pruning a timeline that's going to prune itself anyway.
Power Pack, lol. (I'm surprised Disney still hasn't done anything with Power Pack.)
For some reason - a series i wanted to see them animate is Gwenpool
The way I kinda see it, these fixed points are the nexus events in of themselves, basically, and the Eye/Time Stone can't undo the nexus event that resulted in the branched universe that it exists in.
To be fair, the timelines aren't doomed in loki. That planet being destroyed doesn't mean shit to the universe. It's more that there's no way to have a variance because everything that might be changed is wiped out by the apocalypse, because everyone's dead. (tho that seems to indicate that only something sentient can cause a branch, rather than say, an electron appearing in a slightly different place in the electron shell of an atom)
The absolute point in time is the impetus for him to become the sorcerer supreme. If christine lives, then he doesn't, then dormamu takes over the world, then the universe dies. The absolute point in the MCU is him losing his hand.
I interpret the terms 'timeline' and 'universe' to be synonymous, so I guess what the Ancient One did was clone Strange
Great visuals, but rudimentary writing. Why were the minority characters so sidelined? Wong was giving butler vibes. While I liked seeing a new character within this space, O'Bengh doesnt do anything and your boy Strange was being kinda racist?
He would've been a distraction. It wasn't a story about Strange versus Mordo.
I guess they could've shown him in the very short training montage. They literally had Jaimie Alexander show up to provide one and a half lines in last week's episode.
But maybe Ejiofor was busy and they just decided not to bother?
It's the same Hydra monster Captain Carter fought in the first episode.
Probably cause Jaime's doing other projects (loki, and almost certainly Love and Thunder) so she was around? I dunno. You are right, they could've, but I don't think it's necessary.
I imagine they record their voices while in-between takes of their films. I have to imagine it's easier to grab actors while they're already filming for your studio. My only assumption is that he didn't want to or wasn't asked to (like Bautista).
Probably. Tho I guess they could've animated him. But then, they didn't include Dormammu's henchmen either, soo...like I said, it's not really their story.
Bizarrely, they DID ask Bautista, Dave's agent just...didn't tell him about it until it was too late.
oh, it was an accident? I thought she did that on purpose
Considering what we saw, it definitely didn't last long enough to produce a Kang.
It's a stock Star Trek plot device - she did do it on purpose but it's a little tropey in some circles.
Yeah, the showrunners went out to all the actors either directly or through their agents so they don't know how he didn't get asked. They did say a good number were just too busy.
Yeah. Brad Winderbaum found out Bautista was upset about it and was like "oh crap, we totally tried to get you". Turns out his agent fucked up.
Avoiding spoilers somehow but as a fan of the past few years of MCU who has not really loved the first three episodes of What If?, I'd like to get a sense for how people in my camp feel about this one.
Anyone else not like the first 3 that enjoyed episode 4?
Anyone else not like the first 3 that enjoyed episode 4?
Great episode, I really enjoyed the presence of Uatu throughout the episode.
Also is Shuma Gorath possibly losing tentacles left and right? :v
But also part Live-Action for when she is on our world, maybe with a found-footage style for the real world.
I want it to be very meta, like Akibaranger but mixed with Undone
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When the Doctor is Strange 😳
Also is Shuma Gorath possibly losing tentacles left and right? :v
Let's Go
But also part Live-Action for when she is on our world, maybe with a found-footage style for the real world.
I want it to be very meta, like Akibaranger but mixed with Undone
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Also...
When the Doctor is Strange 😳
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Okay that's the second time.
Let's face it, it's Shuma. Motherfucker's hanging out in the temporal waiting room waiting for people to open doors to other realities like he does
Kang and Shuma, multiverse buddies forever
It's gotta be. That'd be too much of a coincidence. And there's only one Shuma
Let's face it, it's Shuma. Motherfucker's hanging out in the temporal waiting room waiting for people to open doors to other realities like he does
Kang and Shuma, multiverse buddies forever
It's gotta be. That'd be too much of a coincidence. And there's only one Shuma
Mostly good - I remember virtually nothing about Dr. Strange, and honestly didn't even remember him and Christine being romantically involved, so this kinda felt like a standalone story to me. (Evidently they broke up before the movie starts, so I guess that's the division point here - they stay together longer?) Really cool premise, decent execution, nice downer ending. Dialogue was bad, which continues to be an issue, but Cumberbatch is a good VA so he saves it. I thought the Strange v. Strange fight was kind of boring, actually - not as visually interesting as it could have been, mostly just beam fights and stuff - but otherwise can't complain.
The timeline vs. universe thing continues to get confused, and the "absolute point" thing is completely pulled out of nowhere, so I think it's safe to say that there's gonna be absolutely no consistency going forward about how time/the multiverse works.
Wouldn't be surprised if Evil Strange pops up again at some point, being trapped alone in a dead universe. And there's DEFINITELY gonna be a Shuma-Gorath appearance at some point. That's twice now they've show weird tentacles coming from an eldritch portal, and twice they conspicuously avoided showing who they're coming from. In the Captain Carter episode I was assuming it was just visual shorthand, but now? Something's up.
The timeline vs. universe thing continues to get confused, and the "absolute point" thing is completely pulled out of nowhere, so I think it's safe to say that there's gonna be absolutely no consistency going forward about how time/the multiverse works.
Wouldn't be surprised if Evil Strange pops up again at some point, being trapped alone in a dead universe. And there's DEFINITELY gonna be a Shuma-Gorath appearance at some point. That's twice now they've show weird tentacles coming from an eldritch portal, and twice they conspicuously avoided showing who they're coming from. In the Captain Carter episode I was assuming it was just visual shorthand, but now? Something's up.
I thought the first 3 episodes were bad, but I liked this one.
I liked it a lot!
I like how the last two episodes applied some comicbook-esque paths for some characters. In last weeks episode we had Hank Pym getting all vengeful while donning the Yellow Jacket costume.
This time around we have Strange thinking "hmmm this Button looks scary but lets push it anyway and lets see what happens." Its tragic with Strange desperately trying to get Christine back, but this episode shows some or Strange's bad habits he displays in the comics; arrogantly messing with stuff he does not understand.
the amount of times Stephen had shit backfire on him is huge.
I like how the last two episodes applied some comicbook-esque paths for some characters. In last weeks episode we had Hank Pym getting all vengeful while donning the Yellow Jacket costume.
This time around we have Strange thinking "hmmm this Button looks scary but lets push it anyway and lets see what happens." Its tragic with Strange desperately trying to get Christine back, but this episode shows some or Strange's bad habits he displays in the comics; arrogantly messing with stuff he does not understand.
the amount of times Stephen had shit backfire on him is huge.
Apparently Shuma-Gorath is rumored to be in Multiverse of Madness, so I'm not sure if they'd blow their Shuma load here.
It's possible he's not aware of their existence. Outside of the Time Stone.
That episode was very dark and it hit me hard in a lot of points.
Loved the library scenes in particular.
I think it's my second favorite after the T'Challa one. I'm also a sucker for a good groundhog's day/happy death day story.
Loved the library scenes in particular.
I think it's my second favorite after the T'Challa one. I'm also a sucker for a good groundhog's day/happy death day story.
