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What If...? |Spoiler OT| Groot Was One Of Us?
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Wasn't a big fan of episode 3 and 4
4 is kinda disappointing cause all strange had to do was be shown the world falling apart
Didn't care much for 3 also
2 was fantastic
4 is kinda disappointing cause all strange had to do was be shown the world falling apart
Didn't care much for 3 also
2 was fantastic
Actually I disagree on one thing , strange wouldn't threaten the entire multiverse for Peter Parker , he'd do it for himself but I think the risk seems too much
its just his day job. he takes years 9 million to 5 billion and goes homeYeah I'm curious to see how they flesh out the Watcher in the MCU. It's always a "shit just got real" moment when the Avengers are hanging out and then see him appear silently in the background. They're like "oh shit, this can't be good...".
I personally like the exploration of them in the comics, their origin, their private lives, etc. It can get goofy, but hey that's comics!
I feel like when someone leaves Marvel due to "creative differences", they actually mean it & it's not taken personally. Edgar Wright's situation was different, but Feige was able to patch things up with him. And even Natalie Portman is back. Maybe there can be an actual MCU horror movie or show that Derrickson can direct in the future.I'm glad Marvel and Scott Derrickson seem to be on decent terms still:
Shouldn't his name be in Spanish like Strange Perfecto or Extraño Perfecto.
Damn, the darkest episode yet.
And interesting to see someone acknowledge Uatu.
I can see Strange Supreme managing to escape and be a villain later on. Maybe.
Ha. Give or take an entire timeline.
And interesting to see someone acknowledge Uatu.
I can see Strange Supreme managing to escape and be a villain later on. Maybe.
Ha. Give or take an entire timeline.
I still suspect for no good reason the last story of this run will involve a crystal. The M'Kraan crystal. Which happens to look a lot like the one at the end of this episode....
Well, it may also look like an absolute point in time, and the only possible "good" outcome would've been if Strange decided to go to the path he went in the movie, he just never found it here after trying several times (either because it resulted in him never needing to search for the mystics arts, or because it leads to Evil Strange).
For a moment I thought that Good Strange would not beat Evil Strange, but his conscience would've convinced Evil Strange that he couldn't change what happened to Christine.
Nah the 616 Watcher watches a whole bunch of different realities as well. That was the premise the What If... comic title.
What makes the MCU watcher different from comics is how he's seemingly observing a whole bunch of realities instead of just one. Which seems a bit much to be honest.
This is sorta just things that Watchers do when they're not watching specific events unfolding.
Not a whole lot happened in ep4, i place it alongside ep1 as the least interesting of the lot so far. I get that we have timey wimey stuff but too much of the episode was montage to fill space. "Absorb creature after creature," "kill Christine after Christine." We get it. The actual plot was too thin to be interesting.
I initially thought this season would end in a team-up, but I'm getting the sense that it's a season 2 thing.
But the characters we're seeing so far could be recruits for that.
Fantastic episode, I wasn't feeling any of the previous three but this was much better. Made me go and hug my girlfriend extra hard 😅
Interesting concept and fun visuals, but a lot of filler in this episode.
The most interesting part was the Watcher actually interacting (albeit very mildly) with the characters in the story. I was also convinced that Good Strange was going to pull the same trick Neo pulled in Matrix Revolutions, so it was actually something of a surprise to me when Good Strange just straight-up lost the fight.
The most interesting part was the Watcher actually interacting (albeit very mildly) with the characters in the story. I was also convinced that Good Strange was going to pull the same trick Neo pulled in Matrix Revolutions, so it was actually something of a surprise to me when Good Strange just straight-up lost the fight.
Due to promotional materials, I expected bad Strange to come out on top. A rare misstep by Marvel's marketing department.
It had the thinnest plot but the best visuals, IMO.
Also I'm curious if we'll see the library of Cagliostro again in the MCU. The seemed like a very specifically designed location in a series that has mostly rehashed old locations.
Oooh, I'm torn. This is so good but I also love singing "What if Groot was one of us," every time I come to the thread.
God DAMN that was good. Best episode by far.
This really did the Time Loop thing much better than the Doctor Strange movie did. I always thought it would have been better if the movie really labored on just how long Strange was in that loop with Dormammu. It would have been a great way to show how Strange could go from Novice to Sorceror Supreme the way he did. This episode wasn't afraid to linger on the time loop like that. To really show how lost a person could become, and how powerful they could become, if they had nothing but time. Really, really loved it.
The ending was powerful as shit. Especially him pleading with The Watcher for some kind of salvation, and being left with absolutely nothing. Thank god they did an episode this powerful with Cumberbatch, who is actually good at voice acting. I'm not sure that, say, Sebastian Stan would've been able to carry it in the same way, judging by his VA work so far.
I also really thought they were going to tie this into our Universe in the end, and a little disappointed they didn't. Like, it would be cool if Strange ended up finding a way to save Christine without damning the universe, and that solution was to make our version of the MCU happen. He'd damn himself to the pain and suffering of losing his hands, but it would save her. In the end, though, this was probably more powerful. They showed that he was willing to do anything, even sacrifice himself, but it just couldn't work that way in this universe. I don't like the trope of "woman must die to motivate the man to greatness", but it's far less offensive in this episode, because we know it's not always the case. It was just the case in this timeline.
I'm honestly expecting, at this point, for our Doctor Strange, in Multiverse of Madness, to stumble across this frozen, stasis bubble universe that Strange Supreme is locked alone in.
This really did the Time Loop thing much better than the Doctor Strange movie did. I always thought it would have been better if the movie really labored on just how long Strange was in that loop with Dormammu. It would have been a great way to show how Strange could go from Novice to Sorceror Supreme the way he did. This episode wasn't afraid to linger on the time loop like that. To really show how lost a person could become, and how powerful they could become, if they had nothing but time. Really, really loved it.
The ending was powerful as shit. Especially him pleading with The Watcher for some kind of salvation, and being left with absolutely nothing. Thank god they did an episode this powerful with Cumberbatch, who is actually good at voice acting. I'm not sure that, say, Sebastian Stan would've been able to carry it in the same way, judging by his VA work so far.
I also really thought they were going to tie this into our Universe in the end, and a little disappointed they didn't. Like, it would be cool if Strange ended up finding a way to save Christine without damning the universe, and that solution was to make our version of the MCU happen. He'd damn himself to the pain and suffering of losing his hands, but it would save her. In the end, though, this was probably more powerful. They showed that he was willing to do anything, even sacrifice himself, but it just couldn't work that way in this universe. I don't like the trope of "woman must die to motivate the man to greatness", but it's far less offensive in this episode, because we know it's not always the case. It was just the case in this timeline.
I'm honestly expecting, at this point, for our Doctor Strange, in Multiverse of Madness, to stumble across this frozen, stasis bubble universe that Strange Supreme is locked alone in.
I watch these with my brother and mother, who both love the MCU.
We lost someone very close to us two days ago.
Let's just say it was a very emotional experience.
We lost someone very close to us two days ago.
Let's just say it was a very emotional experience.
As dark as this was, I did laugh at the writers sneaking in a brilliant nod to the name misunderstanding from the movie ("Sorcerer Armanni").
The watcher intervenes all the time. He also helped the Fantastic Four save Earth from Galactus.
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What if this Strange is the origin for Mephisto?!?!
Half joking, but his pointed cloak does look similar to the one Mephisto wears....and he has enough control of time travel that he could put himself at the start of the Marvel multiverse.....
Half joking, but his pointed cloak does look similar to the one Mephisto wears....and he has enough control of time travel that he could put himself at the start of the Marvel multiverse.....
What if Doctor Strange turned himself into Cthulu and destroyed the entire universe?
For like half a frame this evil Strange *totally* looked like mephisto. Red face and all.
How I interrupt it is that the nexus point was Christine going to the event with Strange. That in itself becomes the divergence and the creation of a new timeline which is in itself a fixed point in time.
So how I view it is Nexus event = fixed point in time for that timeline
You need Good Strange (Half) at S and Evil Strange (Half) at SSS tho
If he was going to eat Mephisto they would darn well show it. Though I do love the constant meme about EVERY new Marvel project being Mephisto related and none of it ever being Mephisto related.
I would not be angry at all if they made a retcon to the whole Marvel megaverse that this strange from an MCU divergence became the origin for Mephisto.
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This was basically a Twilight Zone episode.
Dude had all the books he could ever read, all the time in the world, total solitude, and then his glasses broke.
Dude had all the books he could ever read, all the time in the world, total solitude, and then his glasses broke.
For someone who's only supposed to observe, Uatu does a hell of a lot of interfering. So it's only inevitable that he chooses to do so sooner or later.
Well, we do have a Halloween special coming next year. Hmm..
Well, we do have a Halloween special coming next year. Hmm..
except this is animated and probably was finished months ago
Wait, what? I only know about the Guardians Christmas special next year.
? Urghh what? I wasn't talking about the production of the shows. Just musing on how it's hilarious the fandom is convinced everything is Mephisto. So not sure what you mean?
Rumours started this summer of a Werewolf by Night series, last week we had another rumour of them doing a Halloween special and that they were looking for a Latino actor. Various people reporting on it so seems likely.
Oh wow, this is my first time hearing of this. I know next to nothing about Werewolf by Night, but I think it's pretty dope that Marvel is really utilizing the TV format with these specials.
Holy shit. Strange chose the BAD END route.
Best episode so far. I've been waiting for a divergence to have universe-spanning consequences and this delivered.
Best episode so far. I've been waiting for a divergence to have universe-spanning consequences and this delivered.