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What If...? |Spoiler OT| Groot Was One Of Us?
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Give us Blink in season 2. We need an MCU Exiles team to come from this.
Wait a minute. Fox's X-Men are essentially feature length, live action What If episodes.
Such as "What If Wolverine's Origin was Terrible?"
Such as "What If Wolverine's Origin was Terrible?"
I was worried at first because the first fight scene as Captain Carter was edited horribly, everything was cut to show as little movement as possible, but then daaaamn they got better
Funny you mention Exiles because that's where Captain Carter originated from in the comics... her true debut is even more interesting.
I don't know why, but her having a necktie as part of the Cap Suit is somehow both really funny and really offputting to me.
The more I think about this, the more I think this is the weakest thing in the MCU, which whatever if it's just exposition to explain why there's Captain Carter running around modern NYC in a later episode.
Why did Hydra leave Steve alive? He's of no value to them as a prisoner/hostage.
Why did Red Skull open a portal to summon a tentacle monster? His plan was to use the tesseract to power weapons, and he got it back like three days after losing it. Why did he switch plans?
The tesseract ability seems inconsistent. Why did Peggy time travel when that's not a space stone power? Though I guess tentacle dimension could just have slow moving time.
(These nitpicks aren't why it's the weakest, it's the totally whack pacing)
Why did Hydra leave Steve alive? He's of no value to them as a prisoner/hostage.
Why did Red Skull open a portal to summon a tentacle monster? His plan was to use the tesseract to power weapons, and he got it back like three days after losing it. Why did he switch plans?
The tesseract ability seems inconsistent. Why did Peggy time travel when that's not a space stone power? Though I guess tentacle dimension could just have slow moving time.
(These nitpicks aren't why it's the weakest, it's the totally whack pacing)
I kinda like the pacing since we get a lot more story out of it, basically the plot of a 2 hour movie in a 30 minute episode. by the end of episode, I feel like I just saw a full length movie and felt pretty satisfied, last thing I want is something like Castlevania where you watch an episode and it feel like the story barely move forward even after 3 episodes
I'm not saying it should be like Castlevania, but that there's a rich history of superhero shows telling full and well-paced stories in 22 minutes. Then there's Clone Wars and Justice League which frequently did multi-part episodes to let the story play out at its own pace. I liked Captain Carter, but it had little time to breath.
Maybe Marvel should have set expectations better if they're going to be sticking to the comic format. I imagine some who arent familiar with the What If? comics probably werent expecting the scope and pacing of the episodes and for it to be an anthology series rather than connected stories.
I was always expecting truncated stories that just give us the highlights to show us how specific plots/scenarios we've already seen can play out differently. I didn't mind the pacing at all because I can fill in the blanks for some of the slower/less crucial moments in The First Avenger. I'd love for the episodes to just be longer but for what they're doing here I was okay with the brisk pacing.
But I don't think every episode is gonna be like this where it simply follows the plotting of the majority of an existing MCU film.
I was always expecting truncated stories that just give us the highlights to show us how specific plots/scenarios we've already seen can play out differently. I didn't mind the pacing at all because I can fill in the blanks for some of the slower/less crucial moments in The First Avenger. I'd love for the episodes to just be longer but for what they're doing here I was okay with the brisk pacing.
But I don't think every episode is gonna be like this where it simply follows the plotting of the majority of an existing MCU film.
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I liked it. It was exactly what I was expecting: a fun little show just to spice things up. It's shallow and the dialogue was bad, but I figured that's be the case. It's a non-cannon animated anthology spin off, I'm not sure what other people were expecting. I don't blame anyone for not liking it, but ultimately this seems like it's so inconsequential it's going to be easily skippable.
A certain game recently released ends the same way! Which made it even more glaring as I was just rolling my eyes at it doing it only to see it again like a week later here.
I guess here it could've been Shuma Gorath, but that could have been better handled.
I really enjoyed that. Red Skull is my favourite villain just because of how purely evil he is so seeing more skull was good. Also I thought that was
as well, but if they bring them in I want to see it done properly since he's cool too.
Loved the watcher bits too. I hope they give the watcher a larger role to play too.
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Loved the watcher bits too. I hope they give the watcher a larger role to play too.
The first episode was ok. Action scenes were fun but the whole thing felt stiff in terms of story and emotion, and sort of...dull? Didn't love it but I see the potential and will keep watching.
It reminds me of the two justice leagues and how the theatrical cut is super rushed lol
I was middling on the first episode, but the action scenes and the Peggy/Steve moments really worked for me. I think the next two episodes will give us a better sense of what this show is.
I think this is unique case of a comic book show where it's better off not being actively discussed and instead just taking each episode as it is.
Nah I mean there's plenty to discuss here even if the plotting this episode is quite basic.
Although
I had missed that big ass spoiler from Hyundai when I made that post so it's kinda moot now lol. If we are revisiting these characters by the end of the series I'm actually even more okay with the way this episode kinda rushed through The First Avenger.
Probably the best animated thing Marvel has ever done. My only real concern is the art style. It's perfect for Captain Carter, you can really feel that old school propaganda/comics feel from it which is awesome. it has that Fleischer Superman vibe. I just don't know how much I'm going to like it for everything else.
I mean in the comics
her being bald is a newer thing, classic had a full head of blue hair
Oh, I know that all too well, I just wasn't expecting them to deviate like that. It works surprisingly well IMO.I mean in the comics
her being bald is a newer thing, classic had a full head of blue hair
I enjoyed the first one if only because Captain Carter is freaking awesome, she was cool as heck. When she got the sword *swoon*
Doubt any of the others will interest me quite so much. Though maybe T'challa as Starlord may finally make me at least a tiny tiny bit interested in Guardians of the Galaxy finally
Doubt any of the others will interest me quite so much. Though maybe T'challa as Starlord may finally make me at least a tiny tiny bit interested in Guardians of the Galaxy finally
Captain Carter's character model is very accurate. Noticeably so in the suit.
I absolutely loved this & I'm looking forward to the next round whether it's a continuation of the story so far or if they're all standalone tales.
While Captain Carter and Iron Man Steve Rogers is a neat concept, I feel the sexism angle was superfluous and unnecessary for this 29 minute episode. I understand it's there to be an analogue to First Avenger where the US military inexplicably had a multi million dollar meta human be a propaganda piece for morale. But here it tokenizes a serious real life cultural imbalance just for plot, while never meaningfully engaging with the topic within the episode. Makes it feel like the Colonel is sexist only because it's expected there needs to be a #girlboss element to Peggy Carter becoming the most powerful human on Earth artificially, rather than it mattering thematically or character wise with respect to the story being presented.
couldve shaved all that stuff back and have more Carter and Rogers screen time; that's by far the best stuff in the episode.
couldve shaved all that stuff back and have more Carter and Rogers screen time; that's by far the best stuff in the episode.
Hayley Atwell is only 39. If Marvel approached her about doing a Captain Carter show or appearance, I'm sure she'd jump at the chance. If they can make Tatiana Maslany into a big green lady, they can do the same for Hayley Atwell. Minus the green.
Thought the episode was well done. The animation and action was extremely impressive, I hope future episodes will be this good.
It would also help if they could write an interesting premise, where there's an actual tradeoff for their fates being switched, rather than literally everyone ending up a hundred times cooler and stronger.
I believe like Bucky they planned to perhaps turn him into the Winter Soldier? They may be torturing him on the operation controls, making sure there's no booby traps for a different user.
The monster was etched into those ancient murals, he thought he could somehow tame it perhaps? He certainly had a god complex!
I believe in my theory: That the tesseract uses the quantum realm to tunnel through space (since time and space are linked), so Peggy and the monster were trapped in the quantum realm for 70 mins rather than 70 years. It's like being trapped on a subway train in-between stations.
