It's worse than Destiny. You could at least enter the menu and change stuff while Destiny is loading. In Anthem nothing, just 2 minutes of tooltips... But to make it worse, if you do want to change a weapon, guess what? Another load screen...
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What happened to Anthem's "seamless world"?
- Thread starter Aokiji
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It's worse than Destiny. You could at least enter the menu and change stuff while Destiny is loading. In Anthem nothing, just 2 minutes of tooltips... But to make it worse, if you do want to change a weapon, guess what? Another load screen...
The same thing that happened to Bungie's claim that in Destiny "if you see it you can go to it" and "there's no loading screens". They're bullshit statements that some believed, and some laughed at.
My friend and I have been talking about this. I hope Jason Schreier is indeed looking at getting the story behind this game.
Its still weird that an fps engine that was originally marketed/built as a way to bring destructibility is being used for everything EA does now. Hell, even the game series that the engine was developed for has long since moved away from what the engine was marketed/built for.
I've "hated" the Frostbite engine since it was forced on the NFS series with Rivals, Criterion's engine from Renderware to Chameleon was so, so much better.
at least in Destiny you can go in your inventory
in Anthem you just stare at the screen several times in a mission
No-one's used renderware in close to a decade at any scale.
That's because it hasn't been worked on continously for the past 5 years. I remember reading a Schreier article a couple of years ago in which some Bioware devs expressed anxiety at the fact pre-production of Dylan/Anthem was taking so long. And then you have Inquisition and Andromeda, which required Bioware pooling most of their resources across their studios to get those games out the door during their last year of development. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the bulk of Anthem was made during the last 2 years or less.
that would be more logical, this game looks like a 2 yr instead of a 6 yr game in development
The only thing I can say is if you're playing on PC, install the game on an SSD. It brings the loading times from 2 minutes down to 30 seconds (timed it last night).
This is really sad news for consoles, though. Really hope it's improved.
This is really sad news for consoles, though. Really hope it's improved.
I keep hearing this. There's only one loading screen between Fort Tarsis and the start of the mission. Where are the other several loading screens? Are you talking about the ones at the end of a mission?
well besides the ones at the end of the missions, there are already 2 if you enter a cave
also if you are unlucky you get left behind from the group, you get a few
Yeah, it's just gonna be one of those dreams where you show up to class naked and all of your teeth fall out.
Well that's how anonymous sources work in journalism, if he names them then they get in trouble. He's credible by himself so if he says "he heard from a guy" then it's true. Plus he wrote a great book Blood, Sweat and Pixels that gives insight into game development and inner management on recent games and cancelled games like Star Wars 1313, Uncharted 4, Destiny etc.
Dragon Age Inquisition mitigated this brilliantly by presenting players with "open regions" instead, allowing Frostbite to do its thing, look gorgeous, and not succumb to these kinds of issues.
Unfortunately, it's apples and oranges. Anthem might not have been able to go that route structurally just due its very nature.
Unfortunately, it's apples and oranges. Anthem might not have been able to go that route structurally just due its very nature.
Indeed. I underappreciated the ability to navigate my inventory in Destiny until now. Really does help pass the time and create the illusion that the load times aren't so bad.
Bioware isn't the problem here. The OT is having an interesting conversation from other devs exaplining how they're held back due to technical limitations forced on them by EA, who insisted everyone use frostbite engine
I can't even be mad at Destiny. The maps were massive and you could explore them freely without loading. It was just going back and forth to the tower that was annoying.
Anthem is much much worse
The thing is, compared to modern games, PS1 load times are insanely short. People complained coming from cartridge based games but PS1 games usually load everything under 10 seconds max and it's usually much shorter. There are exceptions but typical game's have short loading times. I know because I still play PS1 regularly.
I was just adding to, what happen to Anthem? with what happen to BioWare? It's a failure to convey humor with writing on my part.
I haven't read that, which dev's were saying this? I thought I remember BioWare saying they specifically asked if they could use frostbite for DA and ME and that they were not forced.
I'm sure there's technical limitations, but I do think devs need to start doing a better job mitigating those risks. EA shouldn't be pushing Frostbite on everyone when there is other engines that can be used. But I'm not sure that's always happening.
Snowdrop has its share of issues too. The open beta was a mess in some parts.
yup but at least the world was seamless unless you quick travel
The way they announced the game made me immediately think it was canceled by how soft it was and because of how early they did so because that game probably doesnt have a substantial team on it at all.
I like the game, it is not spectacular but pretty fun. But the technical and server issues are insane.
- Disconnects
- Long loading screens
- Infinite loading screen
- Rubberbanding
- Textures not loading
- Freezes (like in forge menu and had to restart)
- Framedrops
- Enemies dissapearing
And i could go on with other little issues not gameplay related.
- Disconnects
- Long loading screens
- Infinite loading screen
- Rubberbanding
- Textures not loading
- Freezes (like in forge menu and had to restart)
- Framedrops
- Enemies dissapearing
And i could go on with other little issues not gameplay related.
People bagging on frostbite but Anthem and SWBF2 some of the best looking games I've ever seen. Anthem really does look absolutely amazing. The loading does suck but I'll take some loading if it means I get crazy visuals. I have a bigger problem with the amount of customization with builds etc.
It's not just that loading screen that's the issue. In Destiny, you can manage your inventory anywhere. You can even manage your inventory while offline.
In Anthem I need a loading screen to get to my inventory only accessible from the fort, and mass salvaging is actually slower than salvaging individual items, which is also slow.
In a thread about loading being a problem, of course people are going to bag on the game engine that's largely responsible.
My theory is that BioWare convinced EA to let them announce that game as an insurance policy on themselves. If EA starts coming towards them with the ax they can say "you can't kill us yet, you promised the world DA4!" Doesn't mean EA won't still kill them, but it might stay their hand.
The best thing about Anthem is it gives me more time to play good games while it's loading.