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What does a paid upgrade for Spider-Man tell us about PS5 BC?
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That's not the case for every game, I'll quote my post from another BC topic.
How is MS treating this? it's an automatic res+fps bump. no different than what MS is doing and being praised for. outside Gears 5 we have no word on the other games upgrades besides auto fps+res bump.
I don't think there's been any reports of any upgrades going to the extent that this one has, at least as described by Insomniac. So to that end, I don't think there's any support for your notion.
I don't mind the economics of paying for upgrade/remaster patches or whatever.
My main disappointment with the whole Spiderman PS5 Remaster situation is that they've (so far) denounced any method of importing your PS4 Save Data. I hope this doesn't imply there's some technical limitation with doing so which would prevent other PS5 remasters/upgrades from doing the same thing.
I do understand that the new PS5 Spidey Remaster is probably treated as an entirely new game/binary, and therefore might be treated separately from the PS4 version on a PS5 system - but it sets a strange precedent for the future of re-enjoying PS4 games on the new system.
My main disappointment with the whole Spiderman PS5 Remaster situation is that they've (so far) denounced any method of importing your PS4 Save Data. I hope this doesn't imply there's some technical limitation with doing so which would prevent other PS5 remasters/upgrades from doing the same thing.
I do understand that the new PS5 Spidey Remaster is probably treated as an entirely new game/binary, and therefore might be treated separately from the PS4 version on a PS5 system - but it sets a strange precedent for the future of re-enjoying PS4 games on the new system.
Is Microsoft confusing people by enhancing shit tons of games for free and people think that's what 'BC' is?
Boost mode didn't help it for shit either. Ugh, I love that game but so choppy in so many places.
Boost mode didn't help it for shit either. Ugh, I love that game but so choppy in so many places.
Thanks God I sold my ps4 this year and didn't bought anything from this amazing last year. (Death Standing, The Last of Us Part 2 and Ghosts of Tsushima) Now when I purchase a PS5 I wouldn't have to pay extra for the enhanced versions
its more like gears ultimate it sounds like, still sucks, but welcome to next gen on ps5
But we need to blame Sony for how bad their PR team is right now and how silent they are right now.
I need to read random tweets of random people explaining stuff that isn't even that hard to understand.
You read that title and you think it's one thing...when it's actually another.
I'm sure Insomniac is doing more than a simple patch because they are also releasing Miles Morales right now.
They are doing a terrible job thoughout 2020 to say anything at all.
They did that presentation last week and then they went quiet. Barely even any mention of a pre-order starting or anything. Geoff was doing PR for them.
I guess that means Uncharted 4/TLoU II single player with no noticeable improvements. They already run stable and are locked to 1440P.
Lame...
God of War at 60 FPS under performance mode... Cool! Locked to 1080P. LAME...
I'm extremely doubtful. It took them a long time to finally put together that statement on what the PS5 will include. I'll eat crow if the PS5 version is a true remaster, but I'm not buying it.
Well, Heutchy Method stuff (X1X and Series X running 360 and OG Xbox games) is often totally on par with some remasters, but that's wizardry and requires human sacrifice or something. And it's also because some remasters are pretty low effort. I'm talking stuff like the Splinter Cell and Prince of Persia collections on PS3, you're literally better off playing the Xbox version on X1X.
A game like Uncharted 4 that was originally coded to run at 1440P and was at a stable 30 FPS would run just like that on PS5 unless ND decides to patch to upgrade resolution/FPS.
Just so I'm clear, you're saying that you believe this to not be true:
Do you have any support for this belief or are you just proffering some fantasy based on cynicism and pessimism?
guess we will find out in about... *checks watch* 50 days lol
hence why it's automatic. if ND redo the models, lightning, shadows, LODs and etc etc like Insomniac is doing with Spider, you bet they will ask for money. i kinda expect a free upgrade for TLOU2 and GOT and GOW since those are cream brulee games, everything else simply res/fps bump via boost mode.
Sony's PR being bad is a true and accurate description of what they're doing.
Making shit up in order to further a platform war-by-proxy has nothing to do with PR and everything to do with it being just another day that ends in Y.
Will be alot of excuses but it shows Sony thinks their brand is above good will. Control got a lot of backlash for essentially doing the same, but Sony will do the same because they know their fans will defend. They should be called out for this.
Yes. However ND went back and patched both UC4 and TLoU Remastered with Pro Patches well after the fact so I don't think new patches would be out of the question. Not sure about 60 fps since sometimes that creates issues in engines but I wouldn't be shocked if they dropped a patch for UC4 that allows it play in full 4K.
Same with God of War- wouldn't be shocked to see a patch that ups the max resolution for performance mode.
For God of War, I think it will for SURE hit 60 FPS without question. What would be nice is if we also if performance mode delivered 4K + 60 FPS for PS5 owners
Yeah, it's safe to assume this'll be the case. But seeing as these are first party titles, it might be worth it for Sony to at least enhance the resolution to 1800p or maybe even native 4K if that runs well without further optimalisation. They're giving some these games away for free after all as part of the PS+ Collection. So they should look nice to customers buying a 4K console who are going to experience those games for the first time. Wouldn't be that hard to do either, since in the case of God of War it already has 4K assets baked into the game.
Now if we for example take Arkham Knight, that's a 30fps 1080p game that's locked on both of those things. Rocksteady isn't gonna sell more copies of that game on PS5 since people who came from Xbox will most likely have played it on there already if they're interested in it. So to them it's not gonna be worth it. But first party? Who knows. I can see it.
Like I said, I'll gladly eat crow. I'm curious to see what separates the PS4 version from the PS5 version. "Take a picture, write it down." I have an ounce of skepticism and I'm going to hang onto it for now. Given what you've shown me, it's more likely to be a remaster, but I'm going to maintain some doubt here that it will be worth the price tag.
Were I to venture a guess.
Boost mode and relatively small patches for older games will be free. That's resolution and frame rate bumps, but not any significant changes.
Full on remasters a la Spidey are gonna cost money.
Boost mode and relatively small patches for older games will be free. That's resolution and frame rate bumps, but not any significant changes.
Full on remasters a la Spidey are gonna cost money.
In that you have to re-earn your trophies, yes. Otherwise, no.
Wonder what'll happen with Last of Us 2 if there's an upgrade. Seems insane to just sell the PS5 version separately as it would probably be full price since the game just came out.
But the PS4 wasn't able to run TLOU natively, whereas the PS5 has nearly full BC
This is why I wanna wait on next gen version sku's of games. Hopefully the free upgrades to next gen versions are actual next gen versions. And not BC enhanced games.
The OP using this as a comparison to BC....
That's not exactly what the OP is asking tho. Are we asking about BC enhancements....or free upgrades to next gen versions.....
Pretty sure this game qualifies as a next gen version of Spider-Man. On that note, it sucks. But....this isn't about BC enhancements.
Wait... people actually think Sony should demand their studios to go back to all games released on PS4 and update them for free to the PS5 now?
Wow...
yeah. No BC in the world is doing updated facial animations lmao.
I think we can all safely say that the enhancements of BC would always be extra resolution and framerate. I doubt you are gonna see any noticable improvement in textures or other visuals