Nah, you're being absolutely arrogant thinking that people can't view superhero movies as serious films.
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What do you think of Nolan’s Batman film trilogy?
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Nah, you're being absolutely arrogant thinking that people can't view superhero movies as serious films.
The more time passes, the more I feel Begins is the best of the three, despite its excessive exposition and compulsion to expand on irrelevant details. Bale's performance is really felt here in ways that it just isn't in the later films.
The weird contrivances, awkward/hokey cuts, and little leaps in logic that hold TDK together become more and more glaring every time I watch it.
The weird contrivances, awkward/hokey cuts, and little leaps in logic that hold TDK together become more and more glaring every time I watch it.
Fun, flawed, thought provoking, well acted, legendary villain, practical effects, poor action, and impressive shots in Imax.
Listen it's not perfect but man some sequences are epic and heath ledger is the GOAT superhero villain
Listen it's not perfect but man some sequences are epic and heath ledger is the GOAT superhero villain
Old man yelling at the sky....
What is "serious cinema" exactly?
The Dark Knight is still a fantastic movie and the other two are pretty great as well. Still have a high opinion of them
Especially it's the overwhelming praise that critics gave it that established them as 'serious cinema' anyway. People shouldn't blame the masses for people viewing it as serious cinema when critics across the world were praising it and awarding and not just in 2008, but they keep consistently naming it as one of the best films of the 2000s and the 21st century so far. That person should blame them and not the general audience lol
Begins starts off great by cribbing liberally from Batman: Year One. Then it falters when it introduces supervillains and a dumb supervillain plan. (1) Why is the drug dangerous when inhaled and safe to drink and (2) given the former, why has it not already poisoned most Gothamites since water continuously evaporates all the time. Boiling it just means all of it goes to vapor, but in any situation with less than 100% humidity, water tends to partially evaporate.
Also, they spent so much time and money and effort teaching Bale how to fight for the screen and then they put him in a bulky suit where he physically couldn't. Seriously, a suit where he can't even turn his head? It looked terrible in fight scenes regardless of whether or not it looked good when he was standing still.
TDK's Joker is great. Otherwise, I kinda liked it.
Didn't much like the third.
TBH, I like most to all Nolan movies while I'm watching them, and then from an hour to a day later, the whole thing tends to curdle for me.
Also, they spent so much time and money and effort teaching Bale how to fight for the screen and then they put him in a bulky suit where he physically couldn't. Seriously, a suit where he can't even turn his head? It looked terrible in fight scenes regardless of whether or not it looked good when he was standing still.
TDK's Joker is great. Otherwise, I kinda liked it.
Didn't much like the third.
TBH, I like most to all Nolan movies while I'm watching them, and then from an hour to a day later, the whole thing tends to curdle for me.
I'm not even a kid and I get nightmare from this :pBegins is my favourite. It also has couple of awesome hype moments.
Can you hear the music?
How many kids got nightmare form this?
Anyways, Batman Begins is definitely my favorite followed by Rises and then TDK.
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It's also the combination of the overly dramatic mouth movements that just make it ridiculous. Batfleck's voice modulator was excellent. Would like them to stick to something like that.
Awesome but I hate the fight choreography in it. Bale is a very convincing Bruce Wayne and Batman except when he fights.
Should have never let Bale do his own stunts. In the making of Batman Begins, his stunt double moved and fought so well. Why even have Bale fight when we can't tell who's in the suit. Don't get me started with his Force Kicks in TDKR.
Nolan really should care more about fight choreography.
In Tenet, I suspect the fight choreography would have sucked just as bad if it wasn't for John David Washington putting a lot into it (the restaurant kitchen scene, particulaly; I could just imagine another actor punching and fighting with not as much intensity and the end result looking bad)
Should have never let Bale do his own stunts. In the making of Batman Begins, his stunt double moved and fought so well. Why even have Bale fight when we can't tell who's in the suit. Don't get me started with his Force Kicks in TDKR.
Nolan really should care more about fight choreography.
In Tenet, I suspect the fight choreography would have sucked just as bad if it wasn't for John David Washington putting a lot into it (the restaurant kitchen scene, particulaly; I could just imagine another actor punching and fighting with not as much intensity and the end result looking bad)
i liked begins and tdk a whole lot
didn't love tdkr, but it was decently entertaining. definitely much weaker than the others and had bad politics
didn't love tdkr, but it was decently entertaining. definitely much weaker than the others and had bad politics
The first is good, the second is great thanks entirely to the Joker, and the third one is not good at all.
That is my feelings on this trilogy in a nutshell.
That is my feelings on this trilogy in a nutshell.
The first two are excellent action films, but The Dark Knight Rises is a bit of a mess. The attempt to cram in some barely comprehensible and ill-judged political commentary alongside the sidelining of Batman for most of the film bring it down.
I like em all even if they have flaws.
I genuinely like Rises even though it's got the worst/dumbest writing in the trilogy.
I genuinely like Rises even though it's got the worst/dumbest writing in the trilogy.
I love them, well at least the first two. The Dark Knight Rises, is definitely the weakest one coming straight after The Dark Knight that I consider fantastic, might be the reason why I feel a bit down on the last one. It's still very good though. Also, I feel like people have somehow turned around on The Dark Knight the last few years and seeing it overrated suddenly, it's still up there on my all time best movies top 10, for sure.
This is basically every Batman movie. Batman's rogues' gallery is the best thing about the property. Batman himself is just something for them to play off of..
Yeah, the first half of Begins is really, REALLY good.
I like TDK a lot, but the thing for me has always been that it's mostly a really good/suspenseful crime drama. You could pretty easily tweak the movie to make Batman just a detective and the Joker a random psycho and it would still be a compelling movie. Outside of a scene or two the actual "Batman" parts aren't really that great.
TDKR is just awful.
Another issue I have with the trilogy is the lack of continuity between the films. Both in Gotham as a city/location and also how they just kind of abandon the end of TDK in the beginning of TDKR. Bruce being a recluse and no longer Batman is kind of the easy way out for what the end of TDK set up.