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What do you see becoming the gaming debacle of the year?
- Thread starter TissueBox
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I don't see Covid as a debacle, as that's an unexpected situation where you're being led by official advice from your government and was pretty much unavoidable.
I picked the FGC abuse scandals. As someone who doesn't follow the scene, it was awful and shocking to discover the breadth of it and how little protective measures were in place.
I picked the FGC abuse scandals. As someone who doesn't follow the scene, it was awful and shocking to discover the breadth of it and how little protective measures were in place.
COVID-19 was unintentional so even though technically it's a debacle as in being a great disaster, the most intentional failing I'd agree with is the FGC sexual misconduct cases.
Covid is not a debacle. It's a worldwide pandemic that has completely been out of everyone's control.
Debacles are mistakes, mismanagement, things that could and should've been avoided.
Debacles are mistakes, mismanagement, things that could and should've been avoided.
Any other year it would've been "MeToo in the FGC".
But this year the DOTY in any industry or anything at all, is COVID-19.
Epic vs Apple is the only other one that makes a blip.
Oh and Ubisoft, of course. That really ought to be in the poll instead of something like "PS5 fallout", which I'm not even sure what it refers to.
You could argue that COVID is immeasurably worse than and different from what can be contained within the word debacle, and be correct, but it's meant as a stand-in term. This thread is essentially about "worst thing of the year".
But this year the DOTY in any industry or anything at all, is COVID-19.
Epic vs Apple is the only other one that makes a blip.
Oh and Ubisoft, of course. That really ought to be in the poll instead of something like "PS5 fallout", which I'm not even sure what it refers to.
You could argue that COVID is immeasurably worse than and different from what can be contained within the word debacle, and be correct, but it's meant as a stand-in term. This thread is essentially about "worst thing of the year".
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Feels unfair to include COVID in this conversation. It's something that's affected everyone and it's not like any company has handled it particularly badly. Things like E3 being cancelled or the weird next-gen reveals have been consequences of what we're living through, rather than self-inflicted debacles.
Honestly the genuine answer should be the Ubisoft shitshow, although it seems that's been going on for years, so it's kinda hard to restrict it to just this year. But it all came to light this year so I'd go for that.
Honestly the genuine answer should be the Ubisoft shitshow, although it seems that's been going on for years, so it's kinda hard to restrict it to just this year. But it all came to light this year so I'd go for that.
Admittedly we haven't been seeing much TLOU2 threads recently due to next-gen on the horizon, but I bet just like with TLJ the moment there's a thread that pops up with the intention of discussing plot/character details, it'll be a warzone.
EDIT: oh there is a thread just recently about Abby and Elle, wonder how that went down?
I'm not really counting COVID, so I'd say Epic and Apple. That one could have huge implications. The rest of those options don't really compare.
Some of those things are life-destroying catastrophes... Calling them debacles seems dismissive and insensitive.
I voted for the Craig meme, because it's just silly fun and nobody got hurt.
I voted for the Craig meme, because it's just silly fun and nobody got hurt.
Yeah I don't think covid should be here really.
In terms of what had the most ridiculous social media outcry I'd say probably TLOU2. And you can bet there will be a bunch of people carrying that grudge on to the next ND game.
Epic vs Apple is the one to keep your eye on, but we won't really feel the fallout of that until next year.
Alas, I am a Spaniard! No offense at all, but I preordered it in Spain.
Hahaha sorry about that! :P Did you get a chance to get a hold of one eventually? Here's hoping that's the case.
Nah...tried GAME, Mediamarkt, worten, El Corte Ingles and FNAC and none had stock since 17/9 at around 11am...I've been told that HOPEFULLY before year's end they'll have stock.
Only 42% for COVID? Some of you seriously need some perspective.
Half of the other choices don't even rank as "debacles" to me. I'd put the TLOU2 leak in second place, not because it was a debacle for Sony or ND, but simply because of how ridiculous the reaction got.
Half of the other choices don't even rank as "debacles" to me. I'd put the TLOU2 leak in second place, not because it was a debacle for Sony or ND, but simply because of how ridiculous the reaction got.
The fallout of COVID. Whether it's the death of E3, working from home hitting game development (particularly in Japan) or that early period of unable to print enough discs. But you can question whether it's actually a debacle, since such an event was impossible to plan for at such short notice.
The MeToo (even though it's been a large movement for several years now) was particularly large in gaming this year, not only with Smash but Ubisoft and Twitch. So you could certainly make a case there.
The MeToo (even though it's been a large movement for several years now) was particularly large in gaming this year, not only with Smash but Ubisoft and Twitch. So you could certainly make a case there.
MeToo including the general FGC mess, Lab Zero's implosion, and the Ubisoft allegations seems like the biggest debacle of the year to me.
Covid-19 is far-reaching, but it's not a gaming debacle.
Covid-19 is far-reaching, but it's not a gaming debacle.
Why would you put the PS5 showcase as a poll option over something that's actually a debacle like the Ubisoft controversy?
It has to be MeToo, whether you're talking about the FGC or Ubisoft. COVID is a worldwide debacle & nothing else on this list comes close to sexual abuse.
It has to be MeToo, whether you're talking about the FGC or Ubisoft. COVID is a worldwide debacle & nothing else on this list comes close to sexual abuse.
The Apple Vs Epic saga I think is the big one outside of Covid.
However this year we could have the following sub categories:
However this year we could have the following sub categories:
- Overall Debacle Of The Year
- Gamers (TM) - This category consists of cringe and hate movements in the gaming community.
- MeToo - Assault in the game development circles, and the cover ups involved.
- "Wait, that happened?" - Something was released and quickly forgotten about.
- Funny Things - Funny moments that got memed - IE Craig.
- "But We Have No Money!" - When a company sacks employees despite record profits, or other pricing shenanigans.
- Bigly Huge - When an executive becomes so arrogant they screw everything up.
Covid-19 is not a gaming debacle imo.
There hasn't been that many big debacles this year fortunately.
The biggest I can think of is the big clusterfuck that Ubisoft has been this year and the EPIC vs. Apple thing.
There hasn't been that many big debacles this year fortunately.
The biggest I can think of is the big clusterfuck that Ubisoft has been this year and the EPIC vs. Apple thing.
Not only that, but the gaming industry handled it alot better than most, look at movies. Completely shut down, won't even release finished products.
We're still getting games and only a couple of months late, kind of remarkable if you ask me.
I would also go for Ubisoft culture thingy as an exemplary case as the GAme industry self made debacle.
Covids affected them most people, but it isn't coming from inside the industry or isnt industry made
Wow... Seems a lot of you need to open a dictionary and look up debacle. I don't want to offend, but Covid isn't a debacle and shouldn't be on the list.
The only way something Covid-related could be on the list, is if a publisher forced their employees to attend their office and a bunch of of them got sick.
The only way something Covid-related could be on the list, is if a publisher forced their employees to attend their office and a bunch of of them got sick.
I actually think COVID is the worst choice. It's terrible for practically every topic, but I think it is completely incorrect to call it a gaming debacle. Gaming is almost the entertainment / culture sector least negatively impacted by COVID: great sales and profits, a few delays... Compare it to movies, (live) music. In a way, gaming actually escaped a COVID armaggedon in comparison.
If anything COVID was to be added, I would put it as the ridiculous abuse Sony got for cancelling events (Not E3 as they had already pulled out of that for other reasons).
