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Umbrella Carp

Banned
Jan 16, 2019
3,265
Better curation is all I really want from them. Steam as it stands is perfectly fine the way it is. It's a store and a launcher. It doesn't need to be some superpowered gaming hub.
 

cowbanana

Member
Feb 2, 2018
13,693
a Socialist Utopia
Steam is perfectly fine for me, I don't really miss anything currently. I can buy games on Steam and from key sellers, Steam can launch the games I buy. These are the things I use the most and they work. I am a man of simple gaming needs on PC. Steam is a trouble free, blissful platform that works for me as a consumer.

The biggest additional plus I can think of is that Steam isn't the shitty Epic Store that I'm never touching for a huge variety of reasons.
 

Durante

Dark Souls Man
Member
Oct 24, 2017
5,074
My personal #1 wish for a while has been the ability to filter and sort your library using the same tags and categories which already exist on the store.

It looks like that's coming in the update.

Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.
It's not particularly user-facing, it's just an option available somewhere.
And it's greatly appreciated, because it's very useful e.g. if you are playing around with modding and mess up a game file.

Ultimately, Steam is a PC game platform, with some power user features. Which seems to be both why many of us like it so much and why some dislike it so much.

That would probably work. And maybe they should also spend more money buying ads in various media. I'm pretty convinced after a few months of that Steam would suddenly have improved.

I think the client feels pretty bloated. I actually like a fair amount of competitors in comparison because they feel sleek.
I honestly hate that sentiment.

So much modern software design is apparently guided by removing meaningful features. I'm happy that the Steam revamp doesn't look like it falls into that trap.
 

Deleted member 2507

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,188
Loading pages could be smoother. Like, a lot. Shit's slow as hell, and interrupt-prone. Using the client if that matters, since i need it to install things anyway. It has been shit for as long as i've used Steam, and that's somewhere around 10+ years now.

Searching things is PITA. Game tags don't seem to have any logic, and actually finding tag search, filtering results is also awkward and too limited .

Steam recommendations are utter shite. I recall that when i played DOOM, Steam thought i'd be interested in every. single. fucking. game. with gore tag. Like what? And blocking games with "gore" doesn't work because then i can't basically find any shooters that just happen to have gore.
Of course, there's also the whole "you played this kind of game, here's the whole Steam library of games within the same genre"... Not helpful, not interesting.
Why can't i personalize things myself by noting that i prefer games with specific tag combinations or something like that? Or just turn off the entire recommendations thing, just lemme look for what i want by myself.

Inability to customize the front store page: I don't want to see anything about curators, i don't want to see what's being live streamed (basically everything's else OK, i just don't care about those two things at all).
 

Nzyme32

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,245
Do we really need 800 games likes this? I'm don't think I'm asking for too much when I say not every game deserves a platform.



I, like you, do not care for these "games". However it is blatantly obvious that there is an audience for that stuff.
Thankfully, Steam already has all the tools and settings you need to stop seeing them, in your account preferences

You and I should not be the arbiter of who gets to play and access games we don't like, and others do.
 

eonden

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,084
Hasn't the beta just resolved this, with a "Steamworks Common Redistributables" tool on Windows systems?
Might not be part of the main branch yet
No, what it did is consolidate them into a single folder to avoid having them in each single game, making it so that you have less download requirements if you ahve them.
(might also not require installation if it is already in the folder but I dont think so).

Remove the limit for curators (both follow and ignore), which is 100.
 

Giever

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,756
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.
It's useful if something gets messed up (or if you were messing with files via modding). GOG Galaxy and the Battle.net Launcher both have options like these. I would assume that Origin and Uplay do as well, but can't confirm.
 

Deleted member 26900

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 30, 2017
721
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.


Why do the installers exist if you're not supposed to install them? This is terrible UX.

This has been a valuble tool when games are corrupted. Especially if you mod games and want to get the core files back without having to do a full reinstall of the game.
 

Iori Fuyusaka

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
2,901
I, like you, do not care for these "games". However it is blatantly obvious that there is an audience for that stuff.
Thankfully, Steam already has all the tools and settings you need to stop seeing them, in your account preferences
Is there an audience for it? I'm pretty sure I read that a lot of this garbage doesn't even sell. It's literally just taking up screen real estate. I'm going to see if I can find a source on that.
 

Deleted member 2507

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,188
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.
Argh, i hate that feature being hidden behind the right click menu. I need it very often. Larger games usually seem to end up corrupted after downloading (i chalk that to using WIFI, didn't have issues when i had wired connection), and it is incredibly useful for restoring modded games to defaults.
 

Opa-Opa

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 16, 2018
1,766
Brazil here and it doesn't accept my international credit card - and it's a good one. Every single online shop accepts it just fine.

I have to buy credits and can't choose an exact value. So I have R$6 there doing nothing because I bought a R$14 game.
 

eonden

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,084
I honestly hate that sentiment.

So much modern software design is apparently guided by removing meaningful features. I'm happy that the Steam revamp doesn't look like it falls into that trap.
I think the problem is not that it is bloated (which it is not) but rather that it feels bloated because it is a collection of different modules that are glued together. A new UI that makes them more seemless would solve that.
 

Eden

Member
Nov 15, 2017
414
The design of the library is awful compared to clients like Playnite (which can be used to launch games from every store).

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I think Playnite looks pretty ugly personally. I have no problem with Steam's library section but I liked the look of the redesign they showed off.
 

BlueOdin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,014
- categories in Grid view
- better pre-load feature (though it isn't useless with a SSD I found out)
- maybe an editorial team to highlight some of the games in the store (like Tizoc 's monthly threads here) though I don't know what to think about this since it would choose the winners
- maybe do something with Steam Music (as an Apple Music pleb I would like to have some integration because iTunes on Windows is god-awful)
- update Big Picture Mode
- modernise the achievement system

Probably a lot more that I can't think of a the moment. I'm interested to see what the client overhaul brings with it
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,841
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.
That exists in Origin as "repair" and Battle.net as "Scan and repair". One button that checks your files and then re-downloads any missing and broken ones is useful.
 

Nooblet

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,632
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.


Why do the installers exist if you're not supposed to install them? This is terrible UX.
Indeed. Steam's UX is bad.
But with that said I'm surprised to find out instances of people not knowing that it's skippable.
 

Mesoian

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
26,480
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.

You never got into skyrim modding. Thank god for this feature, it's often the difference between a 5 minute process or completely nuking and reforging a game folder.
 

Paz

Member
Nov 1, 2017
2,151
Brisbane, Australia
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.


Why do the installers exist if you're not supposed to install them? This is terrible UX.

Not sure which other installers you use but many of them have a similar option under something like repair or check files, it's a very useful option because after the initial download check (which is auto) verifying the files are all present and uncorrupted automatically would be quite cpu intensive and time consuming for no reason and some times these errors just happen but you shouldn't have to fully redownload the game.

As for the installers, last time I was looking at this stuff in the back end it's actually optional and up to content producers to tag their game as requiring certain things, I don't know how much windows can detect (And thus what Steam could auto optimize around in an ideal scenario) but I do know if you don't tick the right requirements to be auto attempted to be installed and then someone buys your game without those requirements installed then it won't run, so everyone just tells Steam to add this stuff even if 95% of users already have it (Though fresh windows 7 installs wouldn't etc).
 

THRILLHO

Member
Nov 6, 2017
1,090
the changes to the client I want seem to be on the way (sort library by tags, essentially)

it'd be nice if they had a "apply a heavy filter" option which would initially hide all the "nonsense" of the upcoming list, etc. If something (like the Stardew Valley example Valve has mentioned before) is linked in Resetera or whatever and I click through, whitelist it through the heavy filter. Apply a little machine learning to make the frontpage of store.steampowered be therefore tailored to the individual. Weirdo bodypillow owners get what they want and I get what I want and everyone's happy.

I think their general policy of "default to yes" as far as what is welcome on the store is fine as long as they allow me to apply a heavy filter. The one thing about the EGS philosophy I agree with is that I will find a diamond-in-the-rough via resetera, an outlet like Giant Bomb, or a youtuber (like ManyATrueNerd, in my case).
 

Madjoki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,230
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.

What you have used then as uplay, origin, gog, b.net and even epic out, all have this feature?
Hell, even many standalone installers have this. (And even Windows itself)
 

Nabs

Member
Oct 26, 2017
15,695
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.


Why do the installers exist if you're not supposed to install them? This is terrible UX.

It's a way to grab files you're missing or have messed up in some way without redownloading the entire game. It's one of the best features that I use all the time.
 

Squirrel09

Member
Nov 4, 2017
1,569
Also people should have to play the game for X amount of time before they can leave a review.

I like this and don't like this at the same time. Is it a flat number like 3 hours? what about shorter game experiences that have an hour game time? Would it based on the reaching a certain % of average play time across all players? I think that is a better option, but still gives the possibility of review bombing on during the first week or so.

Or maybe have some type of weighted reviews where the more playtime you have, the "heavier" the review? that gets dicey but could have benefits.
 

Kyougar

Cute Animal Whisperer
Member
Nov 3, 2017
9,359
Better curation is all I really want from them. Steam as it stands is perfectly fine the way it is. It's a store and a launcher. It doesn't need to be some superpowered gaming hub.

You can make your own personal curation. Subscribe to people who have the same taste as you.
Steam doesn't need to be curated and would lock out titles that you like.
 

DJ_Lae

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,865
Edmonton
The new library features will solve most of the problems I have with Steam, as I shouldn't have to load my username in a third party website just to get proper filtering.

Their in-app store browser not loading each page twice would be nice too.
 

ZKenir

Member
Mar 31, 2018
4,437
I want to be able to hide the BPM icon/thing on the upper right since I hate BPM, and allowing me to put free dlc in the cart and adding them to my account without having to click on them one by one and automatically launching the game.
 

Ganado

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,176
They definitely need to figure out a few more things regarding sexual content in games.

That said, I'm not sure why 'food' is a content warning.

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"The developers describe the content like this". If they think its worth mentioning, let them.

Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.


Why do the installers exist if you're not supposed to install them? This is terrible UX.
Battle.net has Scan and Repair and EGS has Verify that is under less menus. It's not that user facing in Steam, hidden under Properties and it is good if files gets borked. It doesn't have to be Steam that downloads faulty files but if you want to tinker with files and fuck something up, it checks the file. I really don't think this is a setting that is worth fighting about.
 

Iori Fuyusaka

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
2,901
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Well, some people are into weird violent stuff.
I'm more referring to the fact that this is barely a game than I am to the sexual nature of it. I picked the first piece of crap I stumbled on.

That said, a lot of times, these "devs" use sexual imagery to attract people to their ultimately shitty games.
 
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Mifec

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,742
Gonna echo better moderation and PR, hire people to look over reported shit in a timely manner, have a PR firm manage your shit.

I know you're infinitely better and do more for gaming than MS/Sony and Nintendo put together when it comes to consumer facing stuff, but it would be nice to have someone who also responds to and alleviates consumer concerns.
 

.exe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,230
More intricate review system, people giving a negative review because their PC from 2005 can't run Witcher 3 should not affect the overall score. Also people should have to play the game for X amount of time before they can leave a review.

Using third party apps you can idle games without even launching them. Whatever you think adding this prerequisite would improve, it won't.
 

Miker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,015
Better curation of the store. Better PR to take hardline stances on previous and future gaffes (you know they're coming). Better client (in the works). Better dev split. Otherwise, feature-wise it's the industry standard digital storefront. I can list like a dozen things that I would want EGS/XBL/PSN/eShop to take from Steam.
 
Oct 27, 2017
12,238
I think my only gripe is that the in game way to display achievements is within the browser that has to be refreshed after getting one.
 

Rytheran

Member
Oct 27, 2017
468
Just outside Holtburg
you can do that, with any other site like Nexus mods.

The power of Steamworks is that it is integrated in an easy to use manner. What is the usecase for something like that?

That's assuming the mod creator uploads it to another site. You can buy Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition on multiple platforms, but the ubiquitous nature of Steam means that many mods might not be uploaded to another site. However, you can get the mods from Steam and put them in the appropriate folders and still use the mods. Well, you could if Steam allowed you to download them without owning it on their platform.

I like that they don't. It's a nice middle finger to pirates.
It has nothing to do with pirates and everything to do with being able to buy games that support mods on other platforms.
 

Sean Mirrsen

Banned
May 9, 2018
1,159
Verify Integrity of Game Files.

Why does this exist? None of my other installers have or need this. There's no logic to this being user facing.
I see you are new to the PC gaming space. Have you heard of modding? Of harddrive malfunctions? Download bandwidth limits? Copy/pasting folders?

Less snootily, the function is there and user-facing because users need it. It can't be automated because then it would wipe out off-platform modding, and it can't be just hidden away because Steam actually lets users with download limits (or limited time) to only check and re-download any files that may have been damaged or misplaced by data corruption or messing around, rather than redownload the entire multi-dozen-gigabyte game.
 
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Ploid 6.0

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,440
Steam randomly takes up 30% or more of my CPU. Something is up with the amount of resources steam sometimes takes up for no reason (no game unpacking and usually when I'm playing a game in normal steam mode. BPM just seem to take up a lot of resources by default and I try to avoid it).

No big picture mode while playing a game. Could not find out why it happens.