Is there ANY benefits towards these? I've seen them quite a bit in Phoenix, especially in the nicer areas, but from what I can tell they really aren't all that much better than the typical cookie cutter suburban sprawl of this city.
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I live in one. The gatedness wasn't really part of the appeal though. I like having a pool and landscaping that I don't have to maintain though.
Gate is open during the day, so it's not some fortress of seclusion.
It's a pretty modest lower middle-class setup, so I suspect the American conception of "gated community" might not be comparable to mine (Australia). Neighbourhood diversity seems equivalent to "the outside".
Gate is open during the day, so it's not some fortress of seclusion.
It's a pretty modest lower middle-class setup, so I suspect the American conception of "gated community" might not be comparable to mine (Australia). Neighbourhood diversity seems equivalent to "the outside".
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There are some in England. I'd guess there is maybe some up here too.
Lots of them where I live. They're fine tbh, I don't live in one but I wouldn't not live in one. I don't understand all of the "rich" comments but maybe I'm just out of touch with era's humour or some users are more ignorant than I thought.
Well... Shit.
And i should have thought about Israel. Now that i think of it, they probably have a shit ton near the palestinian borders (or beyond, more probably) with theirs "colonies" and crap like that.
There's definitely rich gated communities, too. Most of the people that I know that personally live there aren't white either, though. Depends where it is, I guess.
Is there a source on that? Just curious since I live in Irvine and 80% sounds awfully high.
Despite what most in this thread seem to believe, gated communities are not primarily occupied by the rich. I mean, rich in the sense that they can afford a house, but if you're really loaded the last thing you're probably going to want to do is live in a cookie-cutter neighborhood with an oppressive HOA policing your aesthetic choices and charging ever-increasing fees for the right to do so. Regardless, a lot of gated community residents around here definitely have a tendency to look down on people who don't live in one.
I would never want to live in one, personally. I feel like you're either getting a weird oppressive HOA situation or living among snobs. Not much of an upside.
I would never want to live in one, personally. I feel like you're either getting a weird oppressive HOA situation or living among snobs. Not much of an upside.
Sure, but in my area most gated communities are lower-middle or middle class. The fact that there's also rich gated communities doesn't mean that generalising all of them as rich is okay.
I mean it controls random access, Is there any data supporting the effectiveness of them vs not having them?
I used to think the same thing, with the idea of "gated" must mean "rich". I previously went to one in the hills a long time back, and had assumed that all gated communities had a guard guy sitting in a box asking who you were visiting or whatever. Stuff like in movies. But then I started noticing more middle-class apartments and other small neighborhoods with them. Changed my idea on the stereotype.
I mean, if you can't get the gate open then getting a TV or Car or something out might be harder
No, just my guess. I've lived here almost thirty years now and pretty much everywhere is gated, even the trailer park near my house (and most apartment complexes). I'd say 90% of my friends lived in gated communities.
Guess it depends on where you live in Irvine, my local neighborhoods have zero gates... same with my friends. Born and raised for almost 30 years as well. It's a big city tho.
If legally they can gate their community and want to do so, that's fine by me.
people should be free to hang out with whoever feels comfortable
people should be free to hang out with whoever feels comfortable
They are good for security and keeping outside disturbances away. For example, my community is finally getting gated after 25(!) years, they should have done it from the start as it seriously devalued the property as people preffered to live in the gated community directly adjacent. Although they have not finished the gating and are just part way through one of the first things that has happened is cars that have been parked there for a long ass time, untaxed, flat tires have been removed. One of the motivators for the gating was so that actual residents could park there as parking is very limited.
Ironically, for all the suggestions that gated communities are a way for people to isolate themselves from others, I am way, way more social with my neighhbours in my gated community than I have been in the last 3 open suburban places I have lived in. Having some common spaces seems to give a feeling of shared ownership. Quiet little private, speed-bumped streets for my son and his friends to scoot around on too.
I quite fancy living in a gated community, I mean I'm basically better than you rabble, I just can't afford to prove it at the moment.
This. People are more social sharing a common "cause" or shared ownership, taking care of each other and their "premises"
I dont necessarily agree on this, but it happens.
Mine is that theyre for white privileged folk, because thats what's there in my neck of the woods. Shit isn't for me, i'll say that much. I'd rather just stay on my side of the tracks, and they'd be happy with that as well I'm sure.
I know a guy who lives in one and he just got a stern notice he needed to paint his mailbox to coordinate with others in the neighborhood. It was a dark blue but they wanted it a dark green.
No fucking thank you. I'm way too much of a "damn the man" type to deal with that crap.
I know a guy who lives in one and he just got a stern notice he needed to paint his mailbox to coordinate with others in the neighborhood. It was a dark blue but they wanted it a dark green.
No fucking thank you. I'm way too much of a "damn the man" type to deal with that crap.
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Currently live in a gated complex, guess it's nice and all but it's a pain in the ass for my friends to visit because every single door needs the fob and there's no guest parking of any shape. kind of lonely that way
I moved in with my friend who lived here before, and back when I lived elsewhere I never wanted to visit their place ever lol
I moved in with my friend who lived here before, and back when I lived elsewhere I never wanted to visit their place ever lol
I don't think they're much of a thing in Europe although I have seen one, curiously enough, in Kosovo.
They weird me out somehow but they rank pretty low on my list of concerns when it comes to the make up of a city.
They weird me out somehow but they rank pretty low on my list of concerns when it comes to the make up of a city.
I have a low opinion of them, but if they are there just to reduce thru traffic then that seems ok
I always thought they were just for stuffy rich people but then I lived in the suburbs for a while and became all too familiar with random people just walking through your lawn instead of using the sidewalk a meter or two away and I understood. Not sure how common of an issue that is, because the chaotic energy required to do something that egregious is immense.
Then where does the money come from to maintain common areas/facilities, pay insurance, fund caretakers, cover administration/legal?
I personally don't like the idea at all, as it seems like peak suburbia and I like living in urban areas with walkability, but if it makes them happy and feel safer or whatever, then more power to them.
I don't have problem with as there are a lot of break-ins in my area and the gated apartment complex across the way doesn't have to worry nearly as much as I do about our stuff being broken into or stolen simply because its far harder for people who want to do that kind of stuff to get in and out.
I grew up in what could basically be described as the diet version of a gated community - my neighborhood was very remote and distant from much of the rest of town, marked with a very obvious sign and all the houses were SIGNIFICANTLY larger than all the other neighborhoods in our nearby orbit.
Despite that, I think gated communities are weird and promote community segregation and an "us vs. them" mentality among neighbors. I'm not a fan.
Despite that, I think gated communities are weird and promote community segregation and an "us vs. them" mentality among neighbors. I'm not a fan.