Thats what the cable and satellite options I have are doing. But they call it 1080 high def.
I do see some 4K channels, I wonder what the actual resolution of that broadcast is and what the bitrate is.
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We're going to see 8K TV's at under $2000 this year.... Selling at places like Costco
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I do see some 4K channels, I wonder what the actual resolution of that broadcast is and what the bitrate is.
There's no content at 8k.
Nada.
Zero.
Bupkis.
Plus, any 8k set you buy now will not be standards compliant when the content does show up.
Nada.
Zero.
Bupkis.
Plus, any 8k set you buy now will not be standards compliant when the content does show up.
All you basic plebes are going to be so jelly of my 8k tv. Maybe I'll let you come over to watch some anime someday.
Speaking strictly of resolution, 4k is not a huge difference compared to 1080p. Especially at 55" or under. It's HDR that makes these new displays worthwhile, not resolution. 4k is already overkill and has minimal content in anything but games. 8k will be utterly useless.
TVs are going to go through the struggle cameras did a while back where pixel count was all that mattered until it started to negatively impacted performance. Content isn't widely available and you need to be able to drive that content bandwidth and hardware wise.
We're getting to the point 1080 is going to start looking like scaled up 480p on these new sets. People will be disappointed.
We're getting to the point 1080 is going to start looking like scaled up 480p on these new sets. People will be disappointed.
Outside of games (in a decade from now) there is no reason to spend extra money on an 8K screen. Your typical movie theater is still using 2K projectors on that 50' screen.
There is no 8K content, and even if there was, at normal viewing distance your eyes would be unable to distinguish any increase in detail. Save your money. Invest in a 4K set that handles wide color gamut with no banding, and has great contrast and brightness for HDR content.
There is no 8K content, and even if there was, at normal viewing distance your eyes would be unable to distinguish any increase in detail. Save your money. Invest in a 4K set that handles wide color gamut with no banding, and has great contrast and brightness for HDR content.
Funny thing rn in the blu ray forums are people getting conflicted reports about Ad Astra and whether it was finished on 2K or 4K. The fact that even those nerds, the kind of guys who post their home theater set ups in this forum signatures, can't look at a movie and immediately tell the difference between upscaled 2K and native 4K, should tell you a lot about how pointless this resolution war is.
1080p scales perfectly to 4K and looks quite good. same would be the case for 8K.
This is nothing like trying to scale 480/576/720p to 1080p.
I barely got a 4K TV about a year and a half ago. No way I'm upgrading to an 8K anytime soon. Not for at the very least another 4-5 years.
And you are going to hear it again.
A few years from now when 8k TVs overtake 4k you will see 16k resolution TVs being introduced and people will say how "useless" 16k resolution is and 8k is just fine.
Adoption rate for 4k in the US will surpass 50% this year which is faster than 1080p. So, even though people complain about these higher and higher resolutions being "useless" or "fucking stupid" they are being purchased by people quicker and quicker.
How about they solve black levels and motion handling first, all of which are worse than CRTs.
They barely even sell 1080p TVs anymore, that's why. I highly doubt the majority of them are being used for content >1080p.
The 8k display I saw at BB was not impressive enough to wow me like the first time I saw 4K. Diminishing returns, I suppose.
Ask if they do 4k. Most do not. Hopefully HBO Max will offer it later this year.
8K needs to be promoted much much more. The faster it gets mass market traction, the sooner we can go over to 16K and then finally 32K. Then the resolution of 49" TVs will finally be high enough that you can't discern individual pixels using an electron microscope, so it's beginning to approach acceptable levels.
I hope that's the case. I'm finally going to upgrade to a 4K OLED this year and I'm hoping that 1080P content doesn't look worse than my current display.
Wouldn't that largely be because those are the only main options? Just like smart TVs probably have greater adoption rates. There are very few non-smart TVs on the market and therefore any of them bought will make the adoption rate high. And plenty of people use their own streaming devices and forego using the smart features of their TV.
you dont expect the next world cup in 8k and winter olympics in 8k?
Be sure to load up your finest PAL DVD on your region-free player.
The Olympics is because Sony and others are pushing it. The World Cup is the biggest sporting event in the world. I don't expect sports in general to do 8K when they're not always even getting 4K consistently right now.
I'm sure they will be. How will they be delivered, though? Certainly not through cable or broadcast signals.
Yeah, you won't get any image distortion because it scales perfectly, but again, what's the point? There isn't much content natively at 4k, let alone 8k, so what is the benefit you gain from this? Being able to see smaller details with more clarity? Which probably requires a certain combination of viewing distance/display size for the differences to not look miniscule
That's always how it is until it isn't. 3DTV was a divergence, not a successor like 8K is. They're not really comparable
The thing is, tv's alone don't drive these things. Gaming won't be able to run 8K games for a while, and I don't think there is much of a desire for developers to chase that. Netflix and Amazon have been trying to push 4K with their original content, but very few of them seem to be both 4K and HDR. I'd rather get to a future that standardised and pushed HDR and 4K first.
Under 85"?? If anyone pulls out one of those silly seating distance charts I may go on a rampage.
You're 100% right, but it's just a matter of time until game consoles and media devices support 8k, creating a tipping point, even if it ends up taking longer than 4k did. It'll happen eventually, unlike 3DTV which went down a different (deadend) path.
In before the human eye can only see 4K below a million inches.
It might look worse. A decent scaler is very important imo. People keep talking about integar scaling but even going from my 24" 1080p display to a 27 or 30" 4K display, 1080p content looks like shit on the 4K, super blurry. Sony, Samsung and Panasonic are supposed to have good scalers but they can be a lot more expensive.
I want 8K eventually, but not now. I'll have nothing to see on it. If my future 4K tv (this year hopefully) can downscale from 6-8K i'll be super happy.
It might look worse. A decent scaler is very important imo. People keep talking about integar scaling but even going from my 24" 1080p display to a 27 or 30" 4K display, 1080p content looks like shit on the 4K, super blurry. Sony, Samsung and Panasonic are supposed to have good scalers but they can be a lot more expensive.
I want 8K eventually, but not now. I'll have nothing to see on it. If my future 4K tv (this year hopefully) can downscale from 6-8K i'll be super happy.
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Looks like holding out with my 1080p TV has been worth it. (Though I do have a 4K monitor for gaming)
Lol I don't even have a 4K TV yet. Also what does it matter if there's no 8K content to view? Seems like a marketing ploy.
More interested in the advances in improving motion resolution and reducing response times. What's the point of having 8K when the smudging during movement makes the quality drop incredibly?
I want a smaller 16:9 CRT for my desktop gaming PC :(
I want a smaller 16:9 CRT for my desktop gaming PC :(
Haha yes! Push those new standards, do it, I'll be several steps behind picking up awesome last-gen stuff.
Even a bleeding edge PC can't run everything maxed out at 4k60, and that's without ray tracing. It will be a very long time before even a $3000 PC can run games at 8k, like, many years.
By the time that a $3000 PC can do that, the industry will be trying to push 32K per eye (so effectively 64K/2).
Society will have already collapsed from climate change before we get there
Australia is already collapsing. So is India, but I'm not sure if their water droughts are due to climate change (probably?).
For me, 4k TV's didn't become attractive until the new complimenting HDMI 2.1/VRR/120 native hz console features coming out this year. 8k is not going to be a thing for a while for video games, most tv shows, and movies.