"We'll have to see what happens," President Trump says when asked if he'll commit to a peaceful transfer of power should he lose in November.

[thecouncil]

"get rid of the ballots and... there won't be a transfer, they'll be a continuation."

the president of the united states. from the white house. 5 weeks before an election.

very normal stuff.

 

[HououinKyouma]

I've never smoked but I need a cigarette, man.

 

[WellbornWarrior]

At this point the only appropriate punishment for how comically evil and obvious his crimes are is something equally comical like the catapulting sentence from the Simpsons.

 

[Reversed]

Just take the L, bro. Only a thug wouldn't.

Not like you wouldn't win by losing, anyway.

 

[higgy]

I thought this thread was going to be about this article:

The Trump Campaign Is Reportedly Plotting an Election Coup to “Bypass” a Biden Win

How Republican-controlled state legislatures could be used to circumvent the results of the election and ensure a Trump victory.

www.vanityfair.com

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Yeah that article is based on the article from The Atlantic. I'm really worried that people think this is just bluster.

 

[NihonTiger]

Over/under on Trump literally stealing things from the White House on his way out?

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If he does, the Resolute desk is going to go missing and show up in Mar-A-Lago.

 

[shinobi602]

I can't believe he feels bold enough to just say that.

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Why not? He says all kinds of shit and nothing happens to him.

 

[Deleted member 13101]

He's contesting the results already, via calling mail-in ballots a hoax. Of course, this makes no sense for actual ballots to be a hoax.

 

[THEVOID]

He'll leave peacefully with a I'll run again in 2024!!

 

[ShutterMunster]

I do not understand how anyone thinks he's fucking bluffing anymore. How long are people going to continue to underestimate the depravity of this administration and GOP?

 

[Mona]

"we'll have to see. if i win, yes, if i lose, no"

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I do not understand how anyone thinks he's fucking bluffing anymore. How long are people going to continue to underestimate the depravity of this administration and GOP?

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As long as they remain unwilling to take any action that requires more effort than just voting, hoping everything turns out alright and blaming all your so-called "allies" when they don't.

 

[Shoeless]

It says enough about the Republican Party that they're completely silent on Trump basically implying he'd be willing to risk a civil war to stay in power if he loses.

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To be fair, they know they've got a lot of guns on their side. Maybe they're just gambling that in a might-makes-right struggle they've got the firepower to hold onto their rule and change it to something more permanent if it comes to that.

 

[Volimar]

I do not understand how anyone thinks he's fucking bluffing anymore. How long are people going to continue to underestimate the depravity of this administration and GOP?

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Because he says all sorts of shit and most of it turns to nothing. Since like February he's promised to roll out the Republican replacement plan for the ACA "in the next two weeks", most recently promising it yesterday. Is it concerning? Sure. Is it a done deal? Who the fuck knows?

 

[bigred50]

Americans are faaaaaar to naive about all this. Trump is not leaving without a big fight. Election results be damned. This will be litigated to all hell. And he will probably win.

 

[ArchStanton]

Can we just put this dullard into a body bag please?

 

[Judau]

It's a yes or no question, you fat orange fuck

 

[Deleted member 11626]

I'm honestly hoping Biden wins in a landslide and Trump flees the country a couple of days before inauguration. That's probably the most peaceful way a transition happens. The sooner we rid ourselves of him, the better.

 

[mellow_jack411]

I mean, there's less likely of a chance all this power grab fan fiction happens than Trump just outright winning the electoral college.

 

[FF Seraphim]

Are we going to see a military coup in the US withon our lifetime due to the actions of Trump showing how broken our system is?

 

[mreddie]

Doomsday scenarios do fit because he knows, the moment he leaves office, he's fucked.

 

[Dodongo]

Fuck Trump. If everyone sick of his shit votes this year, he's out by a landslide.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

Because he says all sorts of shit and most of it turns to nothing. Since like February he's promised to roll out the Republican replacement plan for the ACA "in the next two weeks", most recently promising it yesterday. Is it concerning? Sure. Is it a done deal? Who the fuck knows?

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But that's some thing that doesn't affect him. He'll actually do work (have his lawyers do work) when it's his ass on the line.

 

[Polioliolio]

The Republican party does nothing but destroy government. Get them out before it's too late.

 

[Emergency & I]

There will be Civil War if the Republicans pull shit and follow his lead.


They will kill this country.

 

[Shard Shinjuku]

It says enough about the Republican Party that they're completely silent on Trump basically implying he'd be willing to risk a civil war to stay in power if he loses. In any actual functioning democracy he'd be dragged out of office for this.

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That is about the sum of the situation, either he gets dragged out by the Secret Service come Inauguration Day or we really will have hit Caesar's Tyranny.

 

[super-heated plasma]

His base will believe anything. I have a family member who is a mega Trump guy who a few weeks back told me that mail in voting is bad. I asked why? He told me a woman in Michigan where he lives and I'm from originally, was caught with thousands of forged ballots! I asked him to please provide a source for what he told me. He said "local news sources". So I immediately searched up on google what he was talking about, and surprise surprise, I couldn't find a hint of anything he claimed. Not in Michigan or anywhere else. I'm sure his "local news source" was probably some right wing radio or website. Idiot.

 

[Deleted member 46804]

Posturing...probably.

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Can we quit with this? He isn't posturing and American democracy is at death's door. Even if Joe Biden "wins", we are just voting to see if the supreme court and the military step up and do the right thing. Trump and the GOP are literally showing us their playbook and everyone continues to deny what is unfolding in broad daylight.

 

[I Don't Like]

Ok but his answer to any question is "we're looking into it" or "we'll see." It's problematic, of course but it's his default response to everything.

 

[platocplx]

His base will believe anything. I have a family member who is a mega Trump guy who a few weeks back told me that mail in voting is bad. I asked why? He told me a woman in Michigan where he lives and I'm from originally, was caught with thousands of forged ballots! I asked him to please provide a source for what he told me. He said "local news sources". So I immediately searched up on google what he was talking about, and surprise surprise, I couldn't find a hint of anything he claimed. Not in Michigan or anywhere else. I'm sure his "local news source" was probably some right wing radio or website. Idiot.

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Yup. Bullshit

 

[Loud Wrong]

What's non peacefully look like? Him kicking and screaming? If he thinks the military will back him, he's in for a big surprise.

 

[Deleted member 8257]

He already said the only way he loses is if the election's 'rigged'. He will contest the results no matter what happens.

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He will be contesting from jail!

 

[Deleted member 46804]

Ok but his answer to any question is "we're looking into it" or "we'll see." It's problematic, of course but it's his default response to everything.

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His answer was to literally throw out the ballots and declare a continuation of his presidency.

 

[Deleted member 1238]

Can we quit with this? He isn't posturing and American democracy is at death's door. Even if Joe Biden "wins", we are just voting to see if the supreme court and the military step up and do the right thing. Trump and the GOP are literally showing us their playbook and everyone continues to deny what is unfolding in broad daylight.

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Here's the thing, Trump is a piece of garbage and he scares me. The GOP sucks too. But the GOP isn't that dumb. If he loses they will make sure he leaves for the sake of their party's future. We might consider them unelectable already, but if Trump actually refuses to leave office peacefully that will be a horrendous look for their party and make them unelectable to a far broader audience.

I'm confident he will leave if he loses.

 

[Hiphopopotamus]

Can we quit with this? He isn't posturing and American democracy is at death's door. Even if Joe Biden "wins", we are just voting to see if the supreme court and the military step up and do the right thing. Trump and the GOP are literally showing us their playbook and everyone continues to deny what is unfolding in broad daylight.

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Why would we be waiting for the military to, "step up"? We shouldn't be hoping for the military to be anywhere near deposing a President. We're in a bad enough place as is, no need to go to a place that never, ever ends well and sets a deadly serious precedent.

If we're worried about him holed-up in the WH bunker threatening to launch nukes at California, I suspect the Secret Service agents who have been contracting COVID at an astronomical rate due to Trump's weekly, public therapy sessions with his cultists, would be very happy to drag him out to waiting police cars who will take him to an airport to be extradited to NY

 

[Deleted member 46804]

Here's the thing, Trump is a piece of garbage and he scares me. The GOP sucks too. But the GOP isn't that dumb. If he loses they will make sure he leaves for the sake of their party's future. We might consider them unelectable already, but if Trump actually refuses to leave office peacefully that will be a horrendous look for their party.

I'm confident he will leave if he loses.

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They don't care. This is about an absolute power grab. You also have to think about some of the awful shit a lot of the republicans in congress will be held accountable for if Trump leaves. Prosecution awaits a host of people if Biden takes over and nothing from here until January will be your run of the mill save face politics.

 

[Deleted member 46804]

Why would we be waiting for the military to, "step up"? We shouldn't be hoping for the military to be anywhere near deposing a President. We're in a bad enough place as is, no need to go to a place that never, ever ends well and sets a deadly serious precedent.

If we're worried about him holed-up in the WH bunker threatening to launch nukes at California, I suspect the Secret Service agents who have been contracting COVID at an astronomical rate due to Trump's weekly, public therapy sessions with his cultists, would be very happy to drag him out to waiting police cars who will take him to an airport to be extradited to NY

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We'll see what happens. Everyone's loyalties will be laid bare soon enough.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

Here's the thing, Trump is a piece of garbage and he scares me. The GOP sucks too. But the GOP isn't that dumb. If he loses they will make sure he leaves for the sake of their party's future. We might consider them unelectable already, but if Trump actually refuses to leave office peacefully that will be a horrendous look for their party and make them unelectable to a far broader audience.

I'm confident he will leave if he loses.

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I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.

 

[Deleted member 1238]

They don't care. This is about an absolute power grab. You also have to think about some of the awful shit a lot of the republicans in congress will be held accountable for if Trump leaves. Prosecution awaits a host of people if Biden takes over and nothing from here until January will be your run of the mill save face politics.

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All of that pails in comparison to being associated with what would effectively be a coup.

if he loses he will leave. He might bitch and moan about it (and by might I mean he will), but he will leave. Don't get worked up over it.

 

[Volimar]

 

[Agnostic]

Ummmm, Can a mod purge my account?

They will use social media to round up the rabble and dissenters.

 

[Sanjuro]

Of course he is going to step aside. If he didn't, he would look like an alpha male to his base. Why would he want that?

 

[Deleted member 3017]

If it's a decisive victory, Trump will leave. If it's close, we're in trouble, because he'll fight it all the way up to the SCOTUS.

So yeah, vote. And take everything he says about contesting the election seriously.

 

[Cup O' Tea?]

Sorry America. You can't just hand your democracy over to a corrupt autocrat and expect him to willingly hand power back over. That's not how this shit works.

 

[Deleted member 46804]

All of that pails in comparison to being associated with what would effectively be a coup.

if he loses he will leave. Don't get worked up over it.

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That's the attitude that has gotten us to this point. The coup part is how fascism works. Being complacent is how democracy dies. Go look at what someone like Jason Stanley from Yale has to say on this stuff. We are at the edge of the cliff with American democracy and we only have a short while to back away from it before we get pushed over that edge.

 

[PS9]

So he won't be attending the inauguration?

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Lol, come on now, what do you think?

 

[shoptroll]

Posturing...probably.

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"Stay tuned for the thrilling conclusion to this season of The Commander In Chief!"

 

[WedgeX]

Vote and...then what?

This is terrifying.

 

[Jive Turkey]

Absolute best case scenario: Trump drops a duece on the oval office desk on his way out.

 

[theme park joe]

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See: moving the election. Notice how that one was rejected and laughed at.