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We need to have a talk on how we treat sexual assault victims on this site
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This whole situation is so completely fucked up and I feel powerless. I'm trying hard not to post in anger but jesus, there's just so much to be angry about.
Honestly, I'm on the verge of requesting a self ban and just leaving this site for good. I've seen a lot of stuff that has irked me on this site, but the sheer unwillingness by the mod team to do anything about this is disgusting.
All I see are a bunch of people who lack any resemblance of empathy and are trying to force their "vote blue no matter who" ideals on people who have suffered so much from sexual assault and rape.
All I see are a bunch of people who lack any resemblance of empathy and are trying to force their "vote blue no matter who" ideals on people who have suffered so much from sexual assault and rape.
Reading this shit makes me want to scream. Getting the same vibes I got from my mother when I put her on to my shit. "Angry", "gnashing of teeth" but no action. don't give a shit. Empty platitudes and feeling sorry but suck it up, in not so many words. Fucking infuriating.
and unfortunately it seems that the reactionary anger, justified anger, is more actionable than what brought on that anger
I'm sorry guys i tried, but everyone so laser focused on beating Trump they are completing ignoring the allegations. :/ What a shame and hopefully i can keep my sanity for the rest of the year.
Lets say 50-100 people on Era don't vote for Biden due to past trauma... I doubt it makes a difference.
So in the interest of not shitting where you eat, why can't some posters just leave their fellow Resetera posters alone? If you want to go all fucking aggro on people, go off to Reddit or Twitter or something.
God knows Twitter seems to be the HQ of nonsense after seeing the things said in response to Reade's case. While mods removed the tweets and I, on reflection, understand why, people on Twitter were actually stalking this topic and calling me out as being part of the Russian conspiracy https://www.resetera.com/threads/yo...led-a-criminal-complaint.177199/post-31242156
The police report is now public as per that post above. How about posters on Resetera start taking that claim more seriously and on reflection of that, treating the OP of this topic and others a bit more kindly?
Your fingers do not need to type up a reply to every post on Resetera. Crazy thought, I know.
So in the interest of not shitting where you eat, why can't some posters just leave their fellow Resetera posters alone? If you want to go all fucking aggro on people, go off to Reddit or Twitter or something.
God knows Twitter seems to be the HQ of nonsense after seeing the things said in response to Reade's case. While mods removed the tweets and I, on reflection, understand why, people on Twitter were actually stalking this topic and calling me out as being part of the Russian conspiracy https://www.resetera.com/threads/yo...led-a-criminal-complaint.177199/post-31242156
The police report is now public as per that post above. How about posters on Resetera start taking that claim more seriously and on reflection of that, treating the OP of this topic and others a bit more kindly?
Your fingers do not need to type up a reply to every post on Resetera. Crazy thought, I know.
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that this is good advice just means that something is horribly wrong on here
It'd be cool if they did literally anything at all about this. At least address some of the concerns.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/be...en-for-president.184122/page-20#post-31239513
Well that sure sends a message about their priorities.
You probably shouldn't treat a video game forum as personal therapy, yeah.
Eh, I've been banned for less. Some warranted. Wasn't thinking right. The last one pissed me off, though, lol.
Still, in context it's ridiculous. MuteKi has been pushing back against people downplaying sexual assault on this topic for weeks, this is clearly a reference to that. And they get banned for it?
It just makes me feel like the priorities are way out of whack.
Sorry if it sounded like I was downplaying it. Priorities out of whack indeed. It was worded wrong. It's more like, "that happens here sometimes"
I'm not saying it's a conversation you can't have here, but is a conversation you can't have in the first 24 h of that type of thread.
no I know that, I'm saying that fact represents a problem in need of urgent solving
User Banned (Permanent): Sending staff an abusive email, history of hostility towards staff in posts and via the report system
DM'ing Cerium seems to be the only way to get any grievances noticed (though will probably still be dismissed; just to your face). I'm sorry for the OP and anyone affected here.
It feels like, once again, we're getting close to the same point we were during Trans Awareness Week last year (re:staff vs victimised members).
We are actively banning people engaging in vote shaming (please remember that it may take sometime for posts to be actioned, the staff deal with a very heavy workload), having meetings and daily discussions on how better to handle a difficult situation where we need to take into account the perspectives, intersectional complexities, and pain of minorities and sexual assault victims, and find a way to improve policy and navigate this in the best way we can for everyone.
In regards to the ban being questioned, that user was parroting common phrasing used against Bernie, and is a user that has expressed having no interest in voting for the person they claimed to. It was read as trolling, which is something we're trying to keep to a minimum. If they feel this was done in error, they can appeal the ban, and we'll review it.
Edit: Removed quote as this is in reply to many in the thread.
In regards to the ban being questioned, that user was parroting common phrasing used against Bernie, and is a user that has expressed having no interest in voting for the person they claimed to. It was read as trolling, which is something we're trying to keep to a minimum. If they feel this was done in error, they can appeal the ban, and we'll review it.
Edit: Removed quote as this is in reply to many in the thread.
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Very strange wording. Does this mean Era members are allowed to shame users who are not voting for Biden? Because there has been a metric crapton of that over the last few months.
No it just means no vote shaming in either direction. Though i personally haven't seen anyone shaming for anyone voting for Biden. Hopefully the mod team will crackdown on the offensive posts.
Probably because Biden has a lot of support here on Era so they are not as likely to eat their own. I agree with the sentiment though. I would like to see Era be a place where people can discuss how they intend to vote and why without being bullied.
Adding a little more, seriously your option is between Trump and Biden. Might as well not talking about it lmao.
What a rubbish country.
I don't see any victim or women blaming there.
This poster just posted the harsh reality of the decision people are faced with. Sure it's hard to read, but it is the truth about where we are with the options we have.
That poster is was telling sexual assault victims to support Biden. Because Trump. Stop it.
I live by a few simple rules when it comes to politics:
1. On the internet, don't try to tell people how to vote. You don't know them
2. Never talk down to a woman as if you could understand the shit they go through. You're never going to be right and chances are you're an asshole
Done me good thus far
1. On the internet, don't try to tell people how to vote. You don't know them
2. Never talk down to a woman as if you could understand the shit they go through. You're never going to be right and chances are you're an asshole
Done me good thus far
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I mean that poster literally said if you don't vote for Biden that "Nobody can hold that against you" so I don't see the command to vote for Biden that you have manifested from that post.
There are posts here that deserve criticism but I just wasn't onboard with this one with how I read it.
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I am deeply sorry that you're experiencing this, and I'm ashamed that there's a set of people who are engaging in vote-shaming or worse. I don't know if I have any right to say more than an apology -- I was only minorly sexually assaulted last year, and I know it doesn't compare to what most folks have gone through. I have also prosecuted and convicted sex offenders that were vile human beings. I bring that up only to demonstrate that I've thought about this.
Another poster put it more eloquently than I could in another thread: concerning politics, this is chiefly a question of one's worldview and ethical standpoint (deontological vs. utilitarian). I think both are valid and rational, and I don't make any secret about ascribing to the latter camp.
But you should never be shamed, derided, or denigrated for identifying a moral line you won't cross. No one should. I may disagree with your conclusion, but I completely respect your methodology.
Setting that aside, I empathize with the fact that you belong to a cohort of people who were and are forced to participate in a conversation on a subject that you shouldn't have to be dealing with in the first place. I think that's the point most people miss. If literally anyone else were the Democratic nominee, conversations could focus on their policy shortcomings, not their moral failures or potential crimes.
It sucks that this conversation is now swirling around you. I don't presume to know how you feel. I am sorry that it's happening. I sincerely hope we can do more in the future.
I do apologise if I've been guilty of this in the past. I haven't been a victim of sexual assault but even then i would find it hard to vote for him. I can only imagine how difficult it is for those who have been a victim in the past.
It's a shitty timeline when the only way to get rid of Trump is to vote a possible rapist.
It's a shitty timeline when the only way to get rid of Trump is to vote a possible rapist.
Reread it in the context of the thread. It's reductive and wack. 'Don't vote for trump, just know it'll be worse'. Aight cool. That's something to say to victims of rape and sexual assault. There's nothing else the Dems can do.
And yet another one of the most vocal supporters of rape victims gets banned for pointing out the hypocrisy of ardent Biden supporters. There are a load of people on this forum that put far more energy into shaming rape victims than they put into trying to prevent a rapist from becoming nominee, and here the mods are enabling them.
Still had this tab opened and happened to see this post after seeing this story.
The New York Times edits their article on the Joe Biden accusation because Biden's campaign "thought the phrasing was awkward"
Because he had been accused of sexual assault himself. He counterattacks. That's his thing. Depressingly, on the issue of whether or not women should get grabbed by their genitals without consent, the two candidates are a wash. There's no reason for Trump to bring it up. Others will (and have)...
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