As someone who only recently got into Nintendo and got into the series with Ultimate and it blows my mind that it even exists in this form.
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We Don't Deserve Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
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Make online free in smash.
Smash sold on 14mil. But about half can't play online.
Smash Run is the 3ds kirby-like mode, right? It's by far the most fun I ever had with the franchise. That would have been the ideal place to put some Jack frost, medusa heads or slimes. Or Guiles.
I couldn't finish World of Light.
I havent played it. I look at it... And it seems like it must be one of the best games you can buy, and i
Especially whe you list the content by the mumbers, i start feeling like its a must have. But somehow i settle back into interest mode real quick. Feels like a game i should force myself to try. The price fixed at 60 doesn't help.
Great writeup!
Especially whe you list the content by the mumbers, i start feeling like its a must have. But somehow i settle back into interest mode real quick. Feels like a game i should force myself to try. The price fixed at 60 doesn't help.
Great writeup!
The best-selling entries in the Sonic series are still the Genesis games. Sonic came to Brawl with a classic stage from the original game, and the latest game referenced in his move set is Adventure. The only modern Sonic games that people seem to really like are the ones that lean into '90s nostalgia like Generations and especially Mania.
As wonderful as the game is, I struggle to boot it up to play. Smash for me since N64 was playing sometimes all night with my brothers. Then life happened, got married, have kids, moved to another state. Now the ultimate Smash is here and I can't enjoy it.
Please don't consider this as thread whining but please make a thread again or at least bump this thread when we get complete roster then we can ranting about how we doesn't deserve this magical game. The ride isn't even OVER yet!
MORE SPECULATION! LET SEE HOW MANY TIME WE WOULD BE WRONG ABOUT CHARACTERS!
MORE SPECULATION! LET SEE HOW MANY TIME WE WOULD BE WRONG ABOUT CHARACTERS!
Goku didn't originate from a video game. He'll never be in Smash.
Edit: Oh, you were joking, lol. Sorry!
It makes your connection more stable, sure. But you still have to account for the millions using Wi-Fi.
Same here. Love the idea and roster but the gameplay just isn't for me sadly. Had decent fun with the time I played though.
EDIT: Also yeah I agree with people saying the online is buttcheeks. When someone pays $60 they deserve functional online. It's somehow worse than most traditional JP fighting games and those have garbage online too.
True. Though I've only had a few disconnects in the past week and I only play Smash mode. If I was into the competitive aspect and kept up with the frame data I'm sure I'd notice things.
I'd prefer if Online was functional. It's a complete joke how shitty the online is in this game.
A large majority of the most iconic video game characters happen to be Japanese.
You are on something if you think joker from persona 5 is more "iconic" than tracer, or crash bandicoot, or Lara Croft, or master chief, or Nathan drake, or any other of the many American / European iconic video game characters.
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I would love to bump this in like 2 years when the ride finally ends!Please don't consider this as thread whining but please make a thread again or at least bump this thread when we get complete roster then we can ranting about how we doesn't deserve this magical game. The ride isn't even OVER yet!
MORE SPECULATION! LET SEE HOW MANY TIME WE WOULD BE WRONG ABOUT CHARACTERS!
I'm confused. Your title said self-requested ban and you are still posting. >.>
I think it's a glitch of sorts with ERA. I requested a ban a month ago and it seems my tag never updated after coming back lol.
Sound good whenever it's over!
Haha, I see.
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It's less Joker than it is Persona. Persona is a legendary/iconic JRPG series and Joker is, to Sakurai, the best way to represent that.
Crash and Lara Croft are those characters, IMO (emphasis on O) whose icon status stretches further than the actual games they came from. Crash 2 is fine, but Crash 1 is busted. And really, anything after Wrath of Cortex was panned by critics and fans, no?
And the old Tomb Raider games have not aged well in the slightest. Meanwhile, you can boot up the first Castlevania, Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, FF7, Metal Gear Solid, and have a pretty great time.
Honestly (continuing with the O), I don't get what people see in Crash. Half the time I wonder if people remember Crash fondly because, for people who bought Playstations, that's what was around. Spyro I get, but I still don't feel he's much in the same vein of iconic.
This isn't to say some western characters are overdue, I definitely think Doomguy and Tracer are just a matter of when. Especially if one of them doesn't close out the first Fighters Pass.
But I agree with Zalman and his point remains that a lot of the most iconic gaming characters that stood the test of time came from Japan in the 80's and 90's. And for the latter, we're still missing a few big players that IMO, take precedent before characters like Nathan Drake. I.e., Jill Valentine/Leon Kennedy, Sub-Zero/Scorpion, aforementioned Doomguy, to name a few.
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Thanks! I was nervous writing something like this haha; thought maybe the forum was already a little Smash heavy but I'm happy to see people responded to it!
Yeah. There's very few games that I feel this way about, but Ultimate is one of them. It's absurd what it's doing. Both for it itself as a game, and for the community at large. I'm not sure if there's ever going to be anything else ever like it.
It's absolutely marvelous. And it's super frustrating when people still complain about bullshit. Like how.
It's absolutely marvelous. And it's super frustrating when people still complain about bullshit. Like how.
They should really never make another Smash and just keep updating Ultimate, especially now that there's no end date for DLC.
Sure you can. There will probably never be a sequel to Fortnite or Minecraft and those are some of the biggest IPs in the world. Game monetization is changing and I'd be all for just making Smash into an evergreen GaaS.
It's not how nintendo does things and that probably will never change. Splatoon could have also easily been gaas, or splatoon 2. Or mario kart 8.
I ain't gonna lie I wish I could be you. Been playing Smash since the n64 and I'd love to know what it feels like to play with these characters for the first time in Ultimate haha.
We're literally paying for it. How do we not deserve it? Nintendo/nostalgia has y'all brainwashed.
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Very true, the main thing stopping that reality is Nintendo's own ignorance of online ecosystems in general. It's a shame though because Ultimate forever will be better than the inevitable scaled-back sequel.
I mean that kind of moves the goal posts if it's just about the first game in the series holding up, and even that is very subjective. Tomb raider is an absolutely iconic series that influenced a lot.
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It isn't entirely about that, I'm just saying that for those two characters, the characters themselves are remembered more fondly than the games they're from.
That definitely isn't true for crash. The first game is kind of dated, but people atill love it and the other two as games not just because crash himself.
I agree with the criticism that the poor online experience spoils things a little. However the stupid size and value of the package cannot be challenged by almost anything else.
I think Ultimate is a bit under-rated in that regard by the enthusiasts and hardcore only because they're super-familiar with Smash 4 on the Wii U and 3DS. So Ultimate is understandably not as impressive.
For the general audience though, there's a reason why it's selling so much. It's just a crazy product.
I think Ultimate is a bit under-rated in that regard by the enthusiasts and hardcore only because they're super-familiar with Smash 4 on the Wii U and 3DS. So Ultimate is understandably not as impressive.
For the general audience though, there's a reason why it's selling so much. It's just a crazy product.
Smash is an amazing value proposition as a fighting game with an insane level of quality throughout, but also an ongoing curated museum of gaming greats, recreated in slavish detail and homage to their respective companies/game series. Smash Ultimate is a game where you can literally feel and see the love and respect for the medium as a whole come to life. It's probably one of the few games I'll always be excited to hear about.
Well the dev that made Brawl is in his late 40's and the earlier games in the series were some of the better ones, so I'm sure that's a reflection of that. My point still stands and I'm willing to bet most of Sonic's target demographic never owned Sega hardware.
So I disagree.
