[WCCFTECH-Rumor] Lockhart Will Be Half The Price Of The Series X; Series X prepared to be $400, July Event Will Be A “Night Of Mic Drops”

[formasymphonic]

Isn't the bill of materials rumored to be $450-500? Taking a $50-100 loss is not unheard of, PS3 was losing $300 per console at launch.

This may be MS being extremely aggressive to win back market share. I still think $499, but who knows.

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BOM is literally just the cost of parts. It doesn't include costs for manufacturing / shipping / retailer cut and so on... So they would already be taking a $50-100 loss to retail at the hypothetical 499 everyone is expecting the XBSX/PS5 are. That's why them eating even more of a loss to get to 399 (especially MS who is supposed to have a cheaper unit) sounds so unrealistic.

 

[Memento]

Lmao no

 

[SaltyDuck]

What other rumors has this eastmen person gotten right in the past?

 

[Knight613]

I just feel like to feasibly sell Lockhart at $200 without taking a huge loss and solely relying on subscriptions, they'd probably have to do things like putting a significantly smaller SSD in as well as not having a disc drive. Along with just having less power than the One X.

I do think though that if Lockhart is $300 and the PS5 Digital Edition is $400, it is going to be quite difficult to sell someone on Lockhart when you might get so much more power for $100 more.

 

[PianoBlack]

Nope. This is silly.

 

[Fabtacular]

This is one of those rumors where, if it turns out to be true, it's really unfortunate it leaked.

Like, people's brains would be falling out of their heads if MS came out and said XSX for $399, XSS for $199.

(Of course the whole premise of a $199 XSS is absurd.)

 

[Proven]

 

[Sydle]

Phil said they will not be beat on power and price this generation.

He will do 399. If its 499, sony will match or beat it. If its 399 sony can not match it. I feel this will be accurate .

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He said they won't be out of position on power or price. I think he's looking to avoid a disaster like X1 where it was $100 more for a weaker system.

We know XSX is more powerful, so it might make sense for it to command a slightly higher price, but I imagine they'll be very close.

 

[Sander VF]

I seriously cannot comprehend the idea of Microsoft selling what is still a next-gen console for the price of a Switch Lite

 

[DoradoWinston]

Nope. First thing that gets cut also if you want to price it lower.

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good to hear, and yea only expected as much, the cut down on drive, GPU and possibly RAM(?) will massively cut down the price on this thing compared to Series X
while also guaranteeing the highest return on any game or service purchases

 

[Jefferies tube]

I would buy a Lockhart for 200 without a second thought. Somehow doubt it, but you never know.

 

[get2sammyb]

They could have capitalised the name of the companies in the article.

EDIT: Ah, I see, they're quotes from a forum post. Sigh.

 

[Precious Tritium]

Both PS5 and XSX being $399 based on BOM, would be massive losses for years. This is a crazy gamble as probably shareholders would feel this shit, that's why I will not believe anything under $499 for PS5/XSX unless I see it announced.

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According to that Bloomberg article the PS5 is around $450 to make, I could see them taking a loss on the the cheaper digital version to get to $400. Digital version is probably $15-30 cheaper?

If the article was accurate it sounded like costs were high due to the current climate so even if they were taking a loss at launch components could get cheaper. Comes down to how valuable digital only consumers are considered I guess.

 

[Midgarian]

If this pressures Sony to go cheaper than the current estimates (£400-£500) it will turn a "Maybe at launch, maybe later, depends on the launch lineup" to "100% at launch".

 

[dedge]

He said they won't be out of position on power or price. I think he's looking to avoid a disaster like X1 where it was $100 more for a weaker system.

We know XSX is more powerful, so it might make sense for it to command a slightly higher price, but I imagine they'll be very close.

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Exactly. $100 more for weaker hardware and a bundled accessory was awful. More expensive with more power and no fluff is fine.

 

[Deleted member 19996]

I really wish Microsoft was putting out an all digital version of the Series X (not the weaker Lockhart targeting 1080p only).

 

[super moustique]

If this turns out to be true. How is the Xbox division going to make any money? People won't buy games anymore because they will all be on Gamepass and they are selling the consoles at a loss?

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GP doesn't stop people from buying games. Then, you have all the DLC that can be made after release.

 

[asmith906]

wait $200 lockhart and $400 series X?

I seriously don't believe that price when a One X is $299 on sale now

 

[mario_O]

Im already skeptical of $299... but $199? Come on

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But isn't Lockhart a 4 tflop console for 1080-1440p gaming? it shouldn't be very expensive to build. Maybe they're willing to sell it a loss as well, and going super aggressive.

 

[dep9000]

What other rumors has this eastmen person gotten right in the past?

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I looked through his posts. Nothing else. This guy doesn't know anything.,

 

[bing]

@chris1515 anexanhume I know you guys are on Beyond3d - how accurate is this guy.

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The account is 12 years old, and beyond3d is rather strict on posters, so I'd say there's inherent validity.

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[Misterhbk]

At $199 I'm sold lol do it cowards.

 

[ShotyMcFat]

$400/$200 with 1 year free Gamepass. Just for the meltdowns. No way Sony could match that.

 

[Allyougame]

I wouldn't put any stock in this rumor. Keep expectations in check, people.

 

[SecondNature]

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What if you cant buy games at all? It's like PS+.

In order to access it, you need a Game Pass subscription.

 

[Kane]

If Lockhart is $200, I'm getting it day 1, lol.

 

[Rosebud]

If it is $400 they don't need to be waiting for Sony forever... just say it.

 

[Deleted member 5028]

You know why

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Go on...

 

[maximumzero]

In the battle of Xbox vs. Playstation, the true winner is the customer.

 

[Rats]

I looked through his posts. Nothing else. This guy doesn't know anything.,

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But WCCFTech says they're reliable. Would WCCFTech lie to us?!

 

[VeePs]

Probably only a new Peggle or Geometry Wars announcement could literally make me pass out with excitement.

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Real talk I would love this. I think Peggle 2 is super cheap right now also on Xbox Live.

 

[Theorry]

What if you cant buy games at all? It's like PS+.

In order to access it, you need a Game Pass subscription.

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No you get gamepass with it. Remember Xbox has that xbox all access program. Where you pay amount per month and you pay off a console and get also like 18 months of gamepass.

 

[cb1115]

$400 Series X would be fucking massive and would force Sony to seriously consider matching it.

still think $500 for both though

 

[Frosty Death Knight]

What strikes me the most about this is what I believe it was Phil Spencer said earlier "it's okay if not everyone buys a series X this year". Like if it's priced at $400 then yes people are going to want to buy it like crazy, that'd be insane if it hits that price point. Just seems incongruent with the previous statement.

 

[AndrewDean84]

XSX at $400 with the amount of power under the hood, it's hard to say no. Or $200 for the lesser version? Then you're looking crazy to not jump in.

 

[Doby]

$400/$200 with 1 year free Gamepass. Just for the meltdowns. No way Sony could match that.

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And when exactly do they break even let alone make money?

 

[Timlot]

I really wish Microsoft was putting out an all digital version of the Series X (not the weaker Lockhart targeting 1080p only).

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The disc drive is a $20 part. It makes more since to remove in lockhart because everything about it is getting to a lower price point.

 

[aceldama]

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Yeah, the only way they could launch a sort of next gen console for $200 without it having unacceptably shit specs is if they expected to claw back their money by locking you in to their subscription services.

 

[butterbutt!]

Microsoft is going to be bleeding cash if the series x is $400. I can't see it.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

It will be very interesting to see how both sides play the price game. It could go either way.

A cheap Lockhart puts pressure on Sony but Sony coming out of nowhere with a Digital Edition PS5, could put pressure on MS too.

 

[ImaginaShawn]

Nope. This is silly.

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MS has stated multiple times that they will be aggressive with the price when competing with Sony. If Sony goes 399 MS would go 399.

 

[Deleted member 5028]

And when exactly do they break even let alone make money?

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You know how the next Total War game is given away free on EGS in order to build/expand their audience? Scale that up for a trillion dollar company.

 

[Xx 720]

maybe these prices are if you agree to sign up for gamepass for a set number of years??

 

[Zyae]

This forum will crash if it's 400

 

[phant0m]

$400 for Series X would blow my mind and I might go MS if the PS5 isn't the same price or cheaper

 

[pretzel]

People seem to forget one simple fact here:
Sony market value: <100 billion
Microsoft market value: >1 trillion
They have the money to sell for big loss. The question is if they have the will.

 

[Madrugador]

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This would be a Game Changer. Do it MS.

 

[Yog-Sothoth]

Yeah no

 

[Midas]

I hope the new Xbox is $400. Just for the reactions.

 

[Saint of Killers]

Night of mic drops xD Let the slow wait to disappointment begin.