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wccftech: Microsoft’s GM of Cloud Gaming Says the Technology Will Allow Previously Impossible Game Experiences
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I am basically an offline gamer, by choice as well as tech limitations.
However, cloud made possible Flight Simulator latest incarnation.
I forgot the size of the game... 2petabytes iirc, impractical offline if you wanted to enjoy the full game.
Platform resources cost money, Storage is cheap but not the rest and there is latency if you need to share processing client side and server side. They can't reasonably throw processing resources for a single player that would be that much better than a high end desktop, negating the scalability advantage you could have. However, more games on the scale of flight simulator ? Yeah, that's nice.
Cloud gaming is a good way to use their resources during downtimes, that's why all cloud providers want to do it.
However, cloud made possible Flight Simulator latest incarnation.
I forgot the size of the game... 2petabytes iirc, impractical offline if you wanted to enjoy the full game.
Platform resources cost money, Storage is cheap but not the rest and there is latency if you need to share processing client side and server side. They can't reasonably throw processing resources for a single player that would be that much better than a high end desktop, negating the scalability advantage you could have. However, more games on the scale of flight simulator ? Yeah, that's nice.
Cloud gaming is a good way to use their resources during downtimes, that's why all cloud providers want to do it.
"Games were you can have lots of players in a single environment interacting in new ways."
They've been saying this for years and continuously fail to show this being true. I'd love to believe this to be true, but the real-time nature of video games means that the latency inherent in cloud services is a big hurdle to overcome.
This could be more applicable to MMOs, where everyone's partitioned into servers/realms, but would require the extraneous services to be hosted in the same data center to minimize latency issues. That by itself isn't particularly challenging, but it also isn't cheap.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but cloud offering "unique experiences" has been a talking point for years with no one being able to really show it off.
This could be more applicable to MMOs, where everyone's partitioned into servers/realms, but would require the extraneous services to be hosted in the same data center to minimize latency issues. That by itself isn't particularly challenging, but it also isn't cheap.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but cloud offering "unique experiences" has been a talking point for years with no one being able to really show it off.
Oh yes, I too came in to say "gOoGlE", but i was beaten by literally everyone on the forum. This phrase has been overplayed; How about some examples in the form of actual games?
How is this different from how purchases from PSN, XBL, Steam, etc work? (Legit don't know)
Stadia didn't actually have games that showed this promise and Google never really invested in games. They bailed before even trying. Microsoft is doling it with titles like Flight Simulator.
Flight Simulator is back, and it's real: Microsoft uses cloud to help classic franchise soar again
Time is a flat circle. Alarming that's it's still being spoken of like this without anything to really show for it.
Edit: ahh Flight Simulator, that's right. Didn't always work for me but could never tell what was my hardware, their software, or this in the background.
Edit: ahh Flight Simulator, that's right. Didn't always work for me but could never tell what was my hardware, their software, or this in the background.
Out of those I could at least see Steam having some kind of backup solution. Any others...not so much.
Flgith Simulator is pretty damn impressive but oof at having to be always online to play everything.
Came here to say this.
I think the reality is simply that you have to have a pretty lucrative game model that you're very confident in to make the investment in building something like this from the ground up. And it's a double-edged sword:
- If it fails, you're probably out a shit-ton of money.
- If it succeeds (and success in this context probably required huge player counts) you're probably also kinda fucked because the cloud computing capacity required to support this "previously impossible" game is going to be really expensive I would think.
I've never used any of them either, so I don't know how their DRM works on local files actually. Which is why I hadn't thought of it.
Is this not how Flight Simulator works? And if so, there's a game not possible without it. All those petabytes of data
Yes, I believe it streams in the map data along with other info like real-time weather and live air traffic control data.
We are closer now than when they first said it. They will be the first big video game company to really show it off since the other two aren't there. So I see nothing wrong with the statement.
edit: never mind we are there with flight simulator
edit: never mind we are there with flight simulator
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Yeah, Flight Simulator shows it but what other experiences would work as well, have to wait and see. Don't think it's as laughable as it was before but I will believe it when I see it.
A longtime AAA dev whos ironically not a believer in full streaming was telling me about this month's ago. Said it's real and it'll have more impact on AAA gaming this gen than full streaming. He's not one to believe the hype so I took it seriously. Look out for hybrid solutions.
But I wouldn't say it's impossible. Real time real weather, real traffic are very cool, but ultimately it would be the same game without it. Same for satellite imaginery. Enhanced by cloud more like.
I don't mind but it would suck to lock certain experiences behind a 24/7 online conection in the game, as far as I know you can play the ''cloud'' experience of Flight Simulator offline because of shaders or something among these lines, so if all games follows this it would be cool.
FYI: this is the original interview.
gamerant.com
Interview: Microsoft's Head of Cloud Gaming James Gwertzman Talks Past, Present, and Future of Gaming Tech
In an interview with Game Rant, Microsoft's head of cloud gaming explains cloud gaming services and talks about where the industry is headed.
gamerant.com
The answers are pretty reasonable considering the context.
By that logic.
Red Dead Redemption 2 is totally doable on a GameBoy advance.
It just wouldnt have voice acting, 3d models, a third person camera ultimately it would be the same game without it.
Part of the experience of the simulator is having the whole world and every single airport in the world.
If you get rid of all the airports how the fuck is it the same game?
Get rid of the weather but its the same game.
Get rid of the map ohh but its the same game.
So get rid of 90% of the missions in any game you gonna tell me its ultimately the same game after the fact?
Mate come on man, thats a really reductive argument.
Flight Simulator 2020 wouldnt be possible without Cloud Computing.
Yeah, that is the best way of describing it.
That's probably what console games with the "power of the cloud" will be unless they're willing to run the risk of games being unplayable when you lose a decent connection. Although I suppose always online games are already like this.
I'd rather games went the enhanced route rather than requiring the cloud at all times.
Bit weird how people are forgetting about flight simulator.
Which uses cloud streaming for loading in other parts of the world while you are flying.
The offline mode allows it to cache one area of the world, the streaming being used whenever you are online.
Taken from an article about cloud streaming for flight sim.
From this article https://www.helisimmer.com/articles/how-microsoft-flight-simulator-streaming-works
Which uses cloud streaming for loading in other parts of the world while you are flying.
The offline mode allows it to cache one area of the world, the streaming being used whenever you are online.
Taken from an article about cloud streaming for flight sim.
From this article https://www.helisimmer.com/articles/how-microsoft-flight-simulator-streaming-works
Its just really hard to make well, and whatever game is made with the cloud wont be that accesible thanks to connection issues. The tech itself though is pretty transformative, there are already some games MS themselves made that use it to great effect, like Flight Simulator 2020.
Uh huh.
Like I get the vision. However, they stated this vision in 2012 before the launch of XB1.
I am simply not impressed until MS show us a tangible service or product instead of pitching us a business model.
Like I get the vision. However, they stated this vision in 2012 before the launch of XB1.
I am simply not impressed until MS show us a tangible service or product instead of pitching us a business model.
Just because we've heard this before and it didn't pan out at the time doesn't mean they're wrong. I swear, gamers have like zero foresight. Give it time. Decrying this is like shitting on VR after having only experienced the Virtual Boy.
Honestly, now that Flight Sim is out, I think they've earned the right to talk about this again. That game is amazing.
Almost every post in this thread is low effort drive by trolling nonsense.
This is a world in which MS Flight SIM exists a game simply not possible without the cloud.
This is a world in which MS Flight SIM exists a game simply not possible without the cloud.
