Oh the US is definitely going to do that at some point. It's GOING to happen sadly
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Water is joining gold, oil and other commodities traded on Wall Street, amid growing fears of scarcity
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Oh the US is definitely going to do that at some point. It's GOING to happen sadly
Ohhh the markets! You are right! Markets are never wrong! This could never have disastrous ramifications, not at all. And if it does, we failed the market! Not otherwise! Just ignore all the third world countries ravaged by the market!
Lastly, no one is defending what happened there, bucko. it's just amazingly funny how you brought that up to drive your shitty narrative.
Water rights are completely fucked. The pistachio/pomegranate magnates of California own a shitload of water.
It's listed on the nasdaq and is primarily for the california water market
dishwasher: 5 Gal vs 27 gal if you did the same amount of dishes by hand.
You won't believe how much water dishwashers use
Water usage and energy savings are two issues that arise when debating dishwashing versus handwashing. Find out what you need to know.
www.homeserve.com
Mileage might vary obviously, but it's pretty well established that dishwashers use significantly less water than hand-washing.
"But it's the only system that works" or whatever it is that's usually trotted out in its defense, instead of at least trying to improve the world at all.
Wake me up once I can buy Oxygen Futures. I'm bullish on Oxygen.
No need to Anex us immediately. First they'll build pipelines from the Great Lakes to their desert cities against our bitching and moaning. Then once those go dry, then they'll annex us for the swamp and marshlands by claiming something about how one of our elections was undemocratic (bonus points for NDP victory for that good old fashion fight against "Communism") and they need to put in charge a strongConservative Democratic voice that will bring relationships back to normal (through us to selling off natural resources at firesale prices).
All the while ignoring the fact that they could have just as easily built Water Desalination plants on their two oceans, as well as artificial rivers going inland to irrigate said deserts. Which would also help eliviate the problem of their flooding economic centers on the coasts. But if course dams and rivers don't make the industrial war economy money.
No need to Anex us immediately. First they'll build pipelines from the Great Lakes to their desert cities against our bitching and moaning. Then once those go dry, then they'll annex us for the swamp and marshlands by claiming something about how one of our elections was undemocratic (bonus points for NDP victory for that good old fashion fight against "Communism") and they need to put in charge a strong
All the while ignoring the fact that they could have just as easily built Water Desalination plants on their two oceans, as well as artificial rivers going inland to irrigate said deserts. Which would also help eliviate the problem of their flooding economic centers on the coasts. But if course dams and rivers don't make the industrial war economy money.
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Now they have a reason to stockpile water instead of oil. If a conservative government is elected in Canada, expect pipelines all over the north sending water to the US.
"Capitalism is the pinnacle of human consciousness. we will never and can never come up with anything more perfect. 100 trillion lives have been saved by capitalism!"
Dishes, not laundry. I use an automatic washer and dryer. No way I'm washing clothes by hand.
I'm not smart enough to plan that out.
Or it portends collusion and manipulation of water supply and flow to the collective benefit of the largest water users, to the point where only the largest users have enough money to consume. I have zero faith in a neoliberal government to regulate water equitably pending environmental calamity, and I have absolute faith in businesses to push for growth in any means necessary. We got to this point in part because of the belief that markets "know best." But everybody needs water. Everything needs water.
We're all still waiting for capitalism to fix Flint, after it fucked it up when they started privatizing things after the 2013 Detroit bankruptcy
From Pittsburgh to Flint, the Dire Consequences of Giving Private Companies Responsibility for Ailing Public Water Systems
The private water company Veolia had contracts with both Flint and Pittsburgh around the time that lead levels rose in their drinking water.
theintercept.com
This is the future neocons and corporatists want for us all. There's a big reason the Trump admin would love to have water join commodities on the market, and we can all be guaranteed that there's nothing altruistic to it.
Water should not be a market, especially when the reason water might be going scarce is because of rapid climate change and horrific agriculture practices - all things made worse by profit motivation.
Wow BRO, BUT THE MARKETS ARE PERFECT BRO!We're all still waiting for capitalism to fix Flint, after it fucked it up when they started privatizing things after the 2013 Detroit bankruptcy
From Pittsburgh to Flint, the Dire Consequences of Giving Private Companies Responsibility for Ailing Public Water Systems
The private water company Veolia had contracts with both Flint and Pittsburgh around the time that lead levels rose in their drinking water.
This is the future neocons and corporatists want for us all. There's a big reason the Trump admin would love to have water join commodities on the market, and we can all be guaranteed that there's nothing altruistic to it.
Water should not be a market, especially when the reason water might be going scarce is because of rapid climate change and horrific agriculture practices - all things made worse by profit motivation.
The fight to stop Nestlé from taking America's water to sell in plastic bottles
Creek beds are bone dry and once-gushing springs are reduced to trickles as fights play out around the nation over control of nation’s freshwater supply
www.theguardian.com
Nestlé Is Sucking the World's Aquifers Dry - Longreads
The multinational corporation is gradually privatizing a natural resource.
longreads.com
Ya'll ready to eat the rich? I've got arms for thirty ish people.
Bad humor aside, this is actually pretty alarming, and doesn't paint a good picture for the future.
Bad humor aside, this is actually pretty alarming, and doesn't paint a good picture for the future.
Wow BRO, BUT THE MARKETS ARE PERFECT BRO!
The fight to stop Nestlé from taking America's water to sell in plastic bottles
Creek beds are bone dry and once-gushing springs are reduced to trickles as fights play out around the nation over control of nation’s freshwater supplyNestlé Is Sucking the World's Aquifers Dry - Longreads
The multinational corporation is gradually privatizing a natural resource.
So how long until Nestle uses this as an excuse to raise the price of bottled water while paying off municipalities to continue to ignore this new market price.
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Wow BRO, BUT THE MARKETS ARE PERFECT BRO!
The fight to stop Nestlé from taking America's water to sell in plastic bottles
Creek beds are bone dry and once-gushing springs are reduced to trickles as fights play out around the nation over control of nation’s freshwater supplyNestlé Is Sucking the World's Aquifers Dry - Longreads
The multinational corporation is gradually privatizing a natural resource.
Thank you both for linking these. My mother is from Flint and I still have family there. I grew up mostly in California and now live in Texas. Socialism is not why taps, crops, wells and aquifers run dry. Socialism is not why fracking fluids or chemical plant runoffs poison our water. Socialism is not why our infrastructure is failing (hint: defunding then deregulating is "good for business"). The enormity of this situation is damning and understated. Waiting for the market to "figure out" a problem people made is a distraction to the problems we all face, and the market only helps mask real decisions real people make from their consequences.
Water is not to be fucked with. Everybody fucking loses.
Quantum of solace was based in large part on the Bolivian water privatization of the late 90s.
Disaster capitalism did it before Bond. Kinda scary when you think about it.
I'm sure Nestle would be more than willing to supply America's tap water, for the low, low price of just $1.50 / gallon! Isn't privatization great guys?
Tyvmdishwasher: 5 Gal vs 27 gal if you did the same amount of dishes by hand.
.You won't believe how much water dishwashers use
Water usage and energy savings are two issues that arise when debating dishwashing versus handwashing. Find out what you need to know.
Mileage might vary obviously, but it's pretty well established that dishwashers use significantly less water than hand-washing.
Wow, I feel like an idiot not catching this despite how many times I've seen the film. It just keeps on giving.
Just unnecessarily checked this off my list for reasons to not have kids.
Keep it up, capitalists. You're fucking nailing it.
Keep it up, capitalists. You're fucking nailing it.
if water becomes scarce, there will be stuff much worse than Occupy happening
Human civilization seems hell-bent to see what those dystopian sci-fi futures are like to live.
Wall Street has been trying to quietly buy up all the water rights in my state: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...ds-millions-to-buy-up-washington-state-water/
I'm starting to think this late stage capitalism might not be all that guys
I'm starting to think this late stage capitalism might not be all that guys
Expect armed uprisings if that occurs. We are not going to take that sitting down.
