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Watchmen |OT| This is the Moment
- Thread starter Kenzodielocke
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All the more reason that it may not be the case. I have much to add to this thread but i've got to organize my thoughts first.
Wasn't it something like she was raised there for awhile. I'm probably mis-remembering.
Treiu is a repeating clone instilled with the memories of the first Treiu who experienced atrocities at the hands of dr Manhattan and Comedien. Will is also a clone. He isn't actually 100+ years old. But he has the memories of the original Will, similar to Treiu. We will find out that Angela is also a clone, that she was the baby saved by little Will in the first episode. The pills will reveal this.
Last week I watched this with a few people. I read the comic and saw the movie. But some these guys were just on a completely other level. Like pausing the show to explain the lore and plot to two uninformed guests and talking over it constantly with theories. Like, I'm a nerd but ohemgee
I'm prepared for some clone shenanigans, but I hope it doesn't get this clone crazy.
really enjoying this show.
I watched the youtube animated comic series the last few weeks and it's really helped me get into this thing.
Don't know where it's going, it is indeed very weird but I'm loving it. I love how much Jeremy Irons looks like an aged up Matthew Goode too.
I watched the youtube animated comic series the last few weeks and it's really helped me get into this thing.
Don't know where it's going, it is indeed very weird but I'm loving it. I love how much Jeremy Irons looks like an aged up Matthew Goode too.
Unless that was specifically requested that's kind of a douche thing to do. Like, are you recording a podcast? Jeez...
Episode 3 and now 4 really convinced me. I'm having fun, actually dreading that the episode is about to end. Really need to get the soundtrack as well.
Agreed. My Angela theory is a stretch. But I do think Will is a clone. He isn't 100+, but he is still old and able to pass as 100+ simply because he shares the same DNA.
My Vietnamese friend just told me that Bí ân means "mystery" ......hmmmm. Also, I wonder if Angela's last name "Abar" is in reference to the 70's movie "Abar: The Black Superman"
Legally speaking I'm pretty sure he's still an American citizen.
like you said we're definitely to get clone shenanigans but there's the way it ends up being clones all the way down, at that point we might as well just introduce Ben Reilly and let it devolve into pure madness
If a clone, do you think Angela died in an earlier Rorschach cop lynching?
I bet it's some twisted idea of bringing people back so they can enlist revenge on those that caused them death.
Manhattan is most definitely an American citizen and furthermore was a worldwide symbol of American power. One of the subplots to Watchmen is that Veidt's plan partially backfires because by removing Dr. Manhattan form the world stage the Soviet Union realizes that they can operate with impunity against America and nuclear tensions ramp up.
Maybe the pills specifically let you relive your ancestor's memories. I'm not sure how that would tie into Trieu's grand plan though
Collective hysteria/anger at the successors of racial violence? Perhaps Judd's grandfather was involved in Tulsa. I feel like the pills or their effects being given on a grand scale could be this show's giant squid if you will.
I really dislike Lady Trieu. Incredibly obnoxious.
On the other hand I could watch Jeremy Irons ham it up as Adrian all fucking day. Dude is hilarious.
I feel the same way... A lot of references to the original which hook me in. But, I don't feel connected to this new version.
On the other hand I could watch Jeremy Irons ham it up as Adrian all fucking day. Dude is hilarious.
I feel the same way... A lot of references to the original which hook me in. But, I don't feel connected to this new version.
Huh.... interesting idea but idk about that. He would be working to crack it first, instead of just leaving. I still think its a biome on Mars.
"It tells time"
That'd be some sly double meaning if the Millennium Clock is some mass history broadcaster
That'd be some sly double meaning if the Millennium Clock is some mass history broadcaster
That was my theory, cause it's just too galaxy brain not to be haha.
She even explicitly says its more than a clock, yet it "Tells time".
I'm sort of thinking the same thing, but still struggling how to piece it together or how it works/gets to that point.
In an episode with a lot of new/crazy plot stuff happening, I really liked the bunkbeds scene.
I mean this is a world where telepathy is real, so its not too far fetched for a grounded sci-fi/superhero story.
Still need to watch ep 4, but this is my favorite show in a very long time. It has a good balance of introducing mystery while also giving you info to chew on. Hard to balance that.
Gotta be the moon surely? I don't think it would have cut to a shot of the moon otherwise.
Eh, I think the sun turning into the moon for the next scene is just for visual consistency. Mars makes more sense what with it being such an inportant place we have yet to see outside of the comic.
Possibly, but the cuts and transisitions are typically metaphorical not necessarily literal.
I would have liked to have been in the writer's room as they developed that scene.
I also got to thinking, to add to my theory: while LG's mask obviously represents how he observes and reflects everything and everyone back at themselves, in addition the polished glass element and how he's always wiping it could represent how he's the cleanest or purest costumed character, or at least he's trying to be.
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So what I'm gathering for some people here that the parallels to the original minutemen would
Looking glass - appears to be the Rorschach but could end up being The Nite Owl and the most heroic person as a result
Judd - initially Nite owl but appears to be the comedian but only in that his murder spurs the story
Trieu- Veidt obviously
Sister night - more sane and non bigoted Rorschach in that she's the point of view character, the black and white speech she gave her son, violent tendencies and going off on her own
The parallels are not strong but I don't think it's supposed to be
Looking glass - appears to be the Rorschach but could end up being The Nite Owl and the most heroic person as a result
Judd - initially Nite owl but appears to be the comedian but only in that his murder spurs the story
Trieu- Veidt obviously
Sister night - more sane and non bigoted Rorschach in that she's the point of view character, the black and white speech she gave her son, violent tendencies and going off on her own
The parallels are not strong but I don't think it's supposed to be
This is the secondary superman parallel
He's the polar opposite of Rorschach. I'm guessing he has high empathy, in counter to Rorschach's sociopathy. Remember he was crying under his mask about Judd. The shiny mask, like you said, is reflective as if he has the capacity to identify with other people. He also has a clear skill in picking up small emotional changes per the interrogations in the Pod.
That would make total sense and signal to me that his cold, dick-ish demeanor is a result of him repressing his emotions (probably because of the trauma spoiled in that interview) and literally hiding them behind a mask, rather than out of malice/hate like Rorschach.
It all plays together with the Trieu storyline. Growing babies, implanting memories through yet to be seen means. Was it Veidt's technology that Trieu bought up, or is it Trieu's and the prison world or whatever is of her design?
Is Bian going to die and suddenly Bian 3 shows up a scene later acting as if nothing happened?
Still think he's a telepathic empath that was damaged by the squid attack.
The daughter is obviously a clone right
You mean the racism detector