The writer Lila Byock, who also recruited Jean Smart, explained it in an interview.
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Watchmen |OT| This is the Moment
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The writer Lila Byock, who also recruited Jean Smart, explained it in an interview.
I haven't watched the Bojack episode but the typical brick joke has the setup of one joke that ends on the brick punchline and makes no sense. Then you wait a while for people to forget the first joke to tell them the second joke, and this joke has the brick from the first joke as its punchline, and this time its funny because you weren't expecting it.
So they did a meta brick joke between episode 2 and 3. Episode 2 the wheelchair guy gets lifted off into the sky in a car and it doesn't make any sense.
In Episode 3 this isn't even mentioned at all, until the end where the car (brick) is dropped as the unrelated punchline that reminds you of the second episode.
Ok wow. Hmm. The fuck does that mean then.
I assumed that Dr. M trapped Veidt there... but maybe Veidt himself made a prison to see if he could break out of it?
One thing I didn't notice but saw in an easter egg video - the cakes are time passing, he's been there for at least 3 years.
Wow. I didn't quite pickup that comparison of Laurie becoming The Comedian until watching an Easter Egg video
Thats so on point.
Brilliant.
Thats so on point.
Brilliant.
Damn Laurie
yeeees thank for this.
Damn HBO has been killing it with their New Media game lol
yeeees thank for this.
Damn HBO has been killing it with their New Media game lol
Wow this is so fucking obvious in retrospect. The dichotomy between how she presents a hostile attitude towards vigilantes in her professional life juxtaposed with her private reminiscing... brilliant. Can't wait to see how both sides of her affect each other.
Its been so long since a show was actually enjoyable to critically think about... and we're only getting 9 episodes :(
I missed it in the podcast but somebody up the page mentioned they're only doing one for every three episodes. So that's only three hours of this thing total and not really a "recap".
For what it's worth it's still a good listen. Lindelof at least goes deep into where the show's themes came from and then complained about how much virtue signaling it sounded like he was doing (so he made sure to involve plenty of people of colour in the writing process).
Holy smokes.
Also just realizing this may be reference/throwback to Nite Owl. He had a similar issue in the comic iirc?
he was impotent and couldn't get it up or get off until they dressed as super heroes and fought crime again
Man, what a show this is. So far, it's incredible.
As a huge fan of the original graphic novel, this is hitting all the right spots so far.
As a huge fan of the original graphic novel, this is hitting all the right spots so far.
It makes more sense the other way round, from what we have seen.
I almost wish I hadn't read this theory now because I feel it's probably true and the reveal would have been a great moment.
It's more of a puzzle than a real show, at this point, but it's kinda neat.
Re: the car, I'm fairly certain Manhattan had nothing to do with it being taken, but the fact that he threw a car at Lori that is useful to her investigation suggests he is keeping a closer tab on humanity than the show's characters realize. Maybe he feels a need to protect the peace that Veidt so monstrously procured?
Re: the car, I'm fairly certain Manhattan had nothing to do with it being taken, but the fact that he threw a car at Lori that is useful to her investigation suggests he is keeping a closer tab on humanity than the show's characters realize. Maybe he feels a need to protect the peace that Veidt so monstrously procured?
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Anyone notice in the credits that a guy named Darrell Snedger was listed as playing "Jon"? Is that supposed to be Dr. Manhattan? Maybe from the Esquire cover in Laurie's case?
So people here think Manhattan needs to throw a car? And he can't just make one appear anywhere?
Jon didn't know she was gonna call and be where she was when he knows and sees all of time.
Which part of he's a literal god aren't you getting?
Jon didn't know she was gonna call and be where she was when he knows and sees all of time.
Which part of he's a literal god aren't you getting?
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He's basically omniscient and omnipotent. If he is trying to point Laurie in the direction of Angela/Will he could have easily teleported the car.
But I agree, I don't think it was from him.
Maybe he's throwing the car to Laurie to give her evidence or something.
So I went and threw the closed captions on and it seems Adrian's horse's name is Eucephalus. I was hoping that would lead me in a certain direction, but unfortunately not. Also, the use of Habanera during that whole dictation/identity reveal scene was just ::chef's kiss::. I know it's not ALL Damon, but the way that dude used/uses classical music between Leftovers and this is so great.
Adrian's horse is named Boucephalos, after Alexander the Great's horse.
My captions said the horse's name is Bucephalus, which matches since his weird tiger thing was Bubastis.
best episode so far. Lindelof really nails these solo POV episodes
also I'm surprised I didn't catch onto Keene essentially being the Veidt of this story. That letter between Keene Sr and Crawford certainly adds more credence to the theory that's where the story is headed
also I'm surprised I didn't catch onto Keene essentially being the Veidt of this story. That letter between Keene Sr and Crawford certainly adds more credence to the theory that's where the story is headed
Yeah, they definitely insert Alexander references as much as possible, because Veldt is a comically pompous, self-aggrandizing asshole. That overwritten play last week had a mention of a Gordian knot or something like that.
I love that the worst karma Ozymandias could receive was just to age and slip into irrelevance while failing harder and harder.
I love that the worst karma Ozymandias could receive was just to age and slip into irrelevance while failing harder and harder.
I don't like this show.
It is slow, it all over the place, the action is Arrow level. It tries to merge multiple heroes, both past and present across America into one narrative and it is not working for me. It is also juggling multiple themes about racism, police, family, sci-fi, vigilantes... 3 episodes in and we have the fake mysteries: Manhattan, Wheelchair oldman, Englishman hero, Police Chief past.
The production quality is high, but I just don't see a cohesive show. Clearly I am not into Watchmen comics, but the movie, which was itself a little boated, was much more focused and enjoyable.
It is slow, it all over the place, the action is Arrow level. It tries to merge multiple heroes, both past and present across America into one narrative and it is not working for me. It is also juggling multiple themes about racism, police, family, sci-fi, vigilantes... 3 episodes in and we have the fake mysteries: Manhattan, Wheelchair oldman, Englishman hero, Police Chief past.
The production quality is high, but I just don't see a cohesive show. Clearly I am not into Watchmen comics, but the movie, which was itself a little boated, was much more focused and enjoyable.
Yeah I don't get this criticism. We are a third of the way through the season, not everything is suppose to make sense. You can dislike the style, you can dislike the direction, but to call it "fake mysteries" is really odd to me. If its not your thing that's fine, but you are judging the story as if its suppose to be complete by episode 3 of 9.
Only 9 episodes? They haven't even finished introducing all the main characters (I think the Trieu lady will be introduced next ep). Do they even have enough time left to form a cohesive plot and tie up all the mysteries?
I agree with your points. I just wished they spent more time moving the main plot forward.
I'm enjoying the show because the excellent production quality and because it's Watchmen so I'm expecting a great development but it is giving me True Detective season 2 vibes in terms of pacing.
I think there's something to be said about the changing way we consume media, you're right. I also recognize not everyone likes Lindelof.
This show very much seems like one designed to be consumed one episode a week, so as to build discussion and hypothesizing. Which is very far removed from the Netflix method. And i like a number of Netflix shows, but they certainly go for different things.
The thing the comic is most known for, outside of superhero subversion, was the non-linear narrative which really didn't connect until the very end.
Three episodes in and this show is just amazing. It truly hits the right notes for a fan of the comic such as myself. I love what the creators have done with the old characters and their legacies. It's bold af.
I wonder if there are people here who aren't familiar with the source material or the movie, how are you liking this?
I wonder if there are people here who aren't familiar with the source material or the movie, how are you liking this?
I still think that's Manhattan's caricature of Veidt. I'm probably wrong but I love the idea that he created his own version who doesn't actually act quite like the real one.
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I understand that Laurie deeply longs for her past as a vigilante, but didn't she hated the sex with Dr. Manhattan because he was acting distant?
She hated Dr. Manhattan growing distanceness from her, not necessarily having sex, in and of itself, with him.
I'm gong to say again:
If you have not read Watchen then stop confusing the shit out of yourself and read it in the week before the next episode. This is not a show that will spoon feed you or you can read a summary or watch a recap video and keep up. It's not and you won't get it.
If you have not read Watchen then stop confusing the shit out of yourself and read it in the week before the next episode. This is not a show that will spoon feed you or you can read a summary or watch a recap video and keep up. It's not and you won't get it.
Several critics have said the show comes together and explains most of it within the first 6 episodes. E5 specifically.
You guys need to understand that the dildo is not about sex in a penitrative way. Stop looking at the superfcial for answers to your questions, that's not where the answers are.