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Watchmen debuts this fall on HBO, here’s the trailer.
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Yeah, that's a given. He doesn't even want his name attached to anything Watchmen related.
Well that was underwhelming. I guess I'll wait to see if a lot of people end up liking the show anyway.
Are there no real characters with powers in this one (a la Dr. Manhattan)?
Seems strange at first, I was expecting more singular characters/heroes/vigilante's whereas this show seems focused with the story centered around a group of Rorschach cultist vs a group of yellow mask wearing police instead, didn't really get a sense of the individual characters from this trailer, hopefully it's more focused with a more diverse lineup then just those two groups being at the forefront of the storyline.
Also was Jeremy Irons meant to be an older Ozymandias? Cause that's the vibe it gave.
Seems strange at first, I was expecting more singular characters/heroes/vigilante's whereas this show seems focused with the story centered around a group of Rorschach cultist vs a group of yellow mask wearing police instead, didn't really get a sense of the individual characters from this trailer, hopefully it's more focused with a more diverse lineup then just those two groups being at the forefront of the storyline.
Also was Jeremy Irons meant to be an older Ozymandias? Cause that's the vibe it gave.
Thought it was a pretty bad trailer. Nothing felt like Watchmen (except the Doomsday clock I guess but it's overused), and it didn't really show me an interesting hook for a sequel.
This letter is fantastic though, damn.
This letter is fantastic though, damn.
I don't think it's supposed to feel like Watchmen and is using the ending of the book as a jumping point for what society would turn into after the squid incident.
Calling it now-- Doctor Manhattan will be a surprise reveal at some point.
I would imagine he'll be the end of the season hook for when shit really is about to hit the fan.
I think people are getting overly hung up on the "sequel" when it's, more than likely, distancing from expectations of a sequel. A sequel is explicitly supposed to pay off all the narrative threads from the original work. I'm guessing this is more of an off-shoot, so it doesn't have to adhere to those assumptions, even if it ends up being a sequel, in part.
It was definitely quite a clever way to reach out to the fans in a way they might appreciate. Might be worth Biosnake adding to op or threadmarking.
It's been far more hit than miss in my eyes, and i don't think they've been any more hit & miss in recent years, other than that they are just creating more original content.
Big Little Lies
The Deuce
Succession
Barry
All premiered in the last 2 years and are top notch shows. There isn't any network/platform pumping out as many good shows as HBO is right now.
So, at the end we'll presumably get a scene where Jon says his experiment failed and starts again with a new world.
Basically, the series will be Jon looking back on where things fell apart and if there was any way things could have turned out differently. This one being a world where Rorschach's journal got out and influenced society.
EDIT:
If it succeeds, future seasons could be an alternate take on things where stuff went differently, and third where he does his own thing based on how things went with the 2 seasons
Basically, the series will be Jon looking back on where things fell apart and if there was any way things could have turned out differently. This one being a world where Rorschach's journal got out and influenced society.
EDIT:
If it succeeds, future seasons could be an alternate take on things where stuff went differently, and third where he does his own thing based on how things went with the 2 seasons
I get that that is what he is going for. But, if someone were to ask you if something was a sequel, and you said no... and then you told them it does take place in the same world, and all those events still took place, and it takes place after... they would be confused by you first saying it isn't a sequel.
You simply say, yes, but with a new cast of characters.
That's sort of irrelevant. Sure, he might have been not-racist or sexist, but the ideals he stood for can be easily co-opted by wrong sorts of people. Look at the Punisher's skull being decalled on Police Cars.
Um... hmmm...
...I...
...huh.
...I'm glad they're going their own route with it rather than failing to adapt the comic...
...and it definitely seems topical...
...just not sure the setting it appears to be exploring needs to be branded with Watchmen...
...I guess we'll see.
...I...
...huh.
...I'm glad they're going their own route with it rather than failing to adapt the comic...
...and it definitely seems topical...
...just not sure the setting it appears to be exploring needs to be branded with Watchmen...
...I guess we'll see.
Well, here's his famous monologue in full, from the comics:
The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll look down and whisper "No." They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men like my father or President Truman. Decent men who believed in a day's work for a day's pay. Instead they followed the droppings of lechers and communists and didn't realize that the trail led over a precipice until it was too late. Don't tell me they didn't have a choice. Now the whole world stands on the brink, staring down into bloody Hell, all those liberals and intellectuals and smooth-talkers... and all of a sudden nobody can think of anything to say.
Like, I don't recall any instances of racism from Rorschach, but his opinion of women and his overall worldview are made very clear throughout.
i agree, and it seems like everything they do is critically received pretty well, but the image of HBO having a golden touch i had in the early 00s has worn down a bit in the years since all TV has gotten a lot better. i generally enjoy more of what they put out than i don't, but most of the stuff they've done recently hasn't moved me as much as stuff on other networks. granted that The Wire and The Sopranos are an impossibly high bar to meet, but still, i'm generally less attached to their more recent offerings. The Deuce is a big exception though, i love that shit
Yea considering the talent involved, this is going to be awesome!
Trailer feels Leftovers like with some amazing visuals and I'm already uncomfortable, scared, depressed and so ready
Watch the leftovers if you haven't. That show (i've always been a fan of Lindelof) sold me on any project he does after
Nice eye!
Looks like the Owlship.
Maybe Nite Owl is still active.
DC can't actually make a sequel to Watchmen, which is presumably why they'll always deny this is a sequel. Just like how Doomsday Clock is never referenced officially as a sequel to Watchmen either.
Not sure why there's confusion about it being a sequel or not, the letter seemed pretty clear to me - it happens after the original, but it's not part 2 of the story (and maybe certain aspects happened differently). It's not unlike Marvel Zombies obviously happens after Spider-Man rejected the symbionte, but it's not the next part of that story.
Have you read the comic? Both Gibbons and Moore abused the fuck out of the watch/time imagery and motif at every chance. Nothing wrong with the advertising for the show doing the same.
The shot at the carnival has me VERY intrigued.
I think that's where I'm at with this project as a whole: intrigued.
I rewatched that trailer frame by frame and now I'm moving past intrigued into a little excited.
There's a floating ring that looks like a memorial around the Washington monument. There's been some sort of mass murder at a State Fair. There's a glimpse of what may be the Owl ship, and some sort of costumed individual standing in front. And there's clearly a new vigilante wearing a sheriff's badge.
There's a floating ring that looks like a memorial around the Washington monument. There's been some sort of mass murder at a State Fair. There's a glimpse of what may be the Owl ship, and some sort of costumed individual standing in front. And there's clearly a new vigilante wearing a sheriff's badge.
Oh shit nice catch.
Looks like the Owlship.
Maybe Nite Owl is still active.
I don't know if it's been confirmed ages ago but variety or one of the trades actually called irons out as being Ozymandias the other day. I suppose we all knew that but it was the first confirmation I'd read
I'm also fully expecting Dr Manhattan to pop up towards the end of the season. The shows focus will likely be the "little" people and heroes but we'll see something fantastic every now and then
I usually hate anything to do with superheroes, but The Leftovers is one of the best shows ever... Guess I'll give it a go.
