Hopefully it's a nice upgrade from the PS4 version. I'd imagine it would be close to on par with XSX version.
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Watch Dogs Legion - Xbox Series X inside look
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Maybe don't judge the entire game on a hand picked section of the game that's at night and a gif. Playing it maxed out on PC and the game looks pretty dated and bland during the day with suspect image quality. It also runs horribly.
The game is dynamic 4k not native
From a guy on B3D
Watch Dogs: Legion [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC]
Yeah reflections are good of course with RT but for lighting it looks like they're adding a single sky source light that gets a ray traced pass over their existing lighting system. Very meh. Worth it for reflections but I'd hope you can turn off any attempt at lighting.forum.beyond3d.com
1440p at 1 minute 11, it will be the same on PS5 and this is logic compared to Ampere GPU performance.
Maybe it is true, but from the same B3D user:
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I don't know if I can trust in a user that believe that PS5 has RDNA3 tech.
lol from dictator and he arrives to the same conclusiom.
Watch Dogs: Legion [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC]
Yeah reflections are good of course with RT but for lighting it looks like they're adding a single sky source light that gets a ray traced pass over their existing lighting system. Very meh. Worth it for reflections but I'd hope you can turn off any attempt at lighting.
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There is a logic if a 3090 suffer with native 4k 30 fps ultra and Raytracing. There is zero chance it will run at native 4k on next-generation console. Here dynamic resolution and temporal reconstruction looks good. This is a great compromise.
lol from dictator and he arrives to the same conclusiom.
Watch Dogs: Legion [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC]
Yeah reflections are good of course with RT but for lighting it looks like they're adding a single sky source light that gets a ray traced pass over their existing lighting system. Very meh. Worth it for reflections but I'd hope you can turn off any attempt at lighting.
There is a logic if a 3090 suffer with native 4k 30 fps ultra and Raytracing. There is zero chance it will run at native 4k on next-generation console. Here dynamic resolution and temporal reconstruction looks good. This is a great compromise.
Sure, it is hard to believe that the game is 4k native and it is more reasonable that it is dynamic 4K, but just checking user posts, IMHO he looks like a "console warrior".
EDIT: And I trust Dictator.
EDIT2: what if.... the game is using VRS and that zone has less quality image?
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Again he has reason if you read the patent this is a form of VRS using the geometry engine. Sony have multiple patents on the subject. This is very different of how microsoft and AMD with RDNA 2 are doing it maybe a custom approach on PS5.
VRS doesn't affect edge of the object.
Thread-worthyThe game is dynamic 4k not native
From a guy on B3D
Watch Dogs: Legion [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC]
Yeah reflections are good of course with RT but for lighting it looks like they're adding a single sky source light that gets a ray traced pass over their existing lighting system. Very meh. Worth it for reflections but I'd hope you can turn off any attempt at lighting.
1440p at 1 minute 11, it will be the same on PS5 and this is logic compared to Ampere GPU performance.
I dunno, there isn't many obvious bottlenecks with this new gen as there is with the last one, so one would think there would be more "true" and "stable" performance across the board. Obviously RT is still basically in it's first generation so maybe the mid-gen refreshes can achieve that "100% stability"
Yeah I've said this before a few times on here that actually Games will be better if they are not native. Native 4k uses too much power when we have so many rendering techniques that can produce great looking games at much better performance. This is something that will last all gen and its going to be really difficult to just compare platforms and say x is x rssolution and y is y resolution because its much more complex than a resolution number now.
I think you have to rule all that out when dealing with ray tracing. It's so far proven to be extremely expensive on any hardware. Without ray tracing performance will be more consistent across the board, but dynamic resolution should still be in play if a game can't hold its target.
I could be wrong but does VRR even work under 40 FPS? I see this game is 30 not sure how it has VRR.
What system was this captured on? PC? I like the look of the ambient occlusion, but the anisotropic filtering is really bad.By the way, the scene looks a tiny bit less interesting during daytime.
I mean welcome to real life. Things pop more at night.By the way, the scene looks a tiny bit less interesting during daytime.
please turn on anistropic filtering. Is it bugged?By the way, the scene looks a tiny bit less interesting during daytime.
The range will be different depending on the TV, LFC also has a role to play I believe in case the frame rate is bellow the range.
Here he explains how LCF works with VRR and the benefits.
By the way, the scene looks a tiny bit less interesting during daytime.
IMO it looks fine
By the way, the scene looks a tiny bit less interesting during daytime.
It doesn't matter, granted the game isn't exactly the best looking (IMO), its new and shiny (literally) and that is more than enough for folks. I guess. Though, on the flip side, if they didn't showcase raytracing at night... it really is the only case to be made for RT even being in this game.
Interesting. On the Series X the ray tracing looks better to me. But the draw distance is less - or there's more atmosphere effects - but I can see detail further in the distance on the PC.
Ah so its not native 4k? Can i shut off ray tracing to make it native 4k if i wanted to? Dont get why they wont just say dynamic 4k or 1800p if its not native 4k. Why be so misleading? Sony straight up says if a game is dynamic 4k
By the way, the scene looks a tiny bit less interesting during daytime.
That's great.
Yeah it is, right on the far East of the map. It's the last big landmark before the end of the map really. I'll get you some shots.
Well he is console warrior if you check more about his posting history.
And geometry engine? that's a feature RDNA1 already have.
This is me as well, that looks amazing indeed. Not just the raytracing but the boat and water movement, cars and driving, city, animations, even the slow walk animation and the rucksack moving is oddly satisfying. I'm just impressed of it all really, looks super polished here.
30fps still stings in 2020 though, especially since there is racing, but I'll definite take a closer look at it now.
Watch Dogs: Legion [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC]
kids happy with candy pack for each one, when counting candies, one pack has one more than the other, and the meltdowns begin.
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The best resolution is native 4k and it seems the worst resolution is 1440p. This is good. This is 499 dollars consoles. More powerful PC have difficulty to play on ultra settings plus RT at 30 fps.
Very curious why they did not offer a 60 fps mode without raytracing.
By the way, the scene looks a tiny bit less interesting during daytime.
small thumbnail on my phone screen looks like an actual photograph.
Lighting, occlusion (and bounce?) are very convincing, I actually find this more interesting than flashy nighttime wet shots.
Now granted, when I look at the full size image things fall apart; what's with the surface of the street getting all detail erased 3 meters away? bugged AF? and those NPCs and interactive elements loosing AO very soon.
Seems can archive 4k with some scene and 1440p for lowest.
Duuuuuude! Looks so good! I love ray-traced reflections.I wonder what the console version will look like in a scene like that.
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Damn, I keep watching this trailer. The game legit looks pretty amazing on Series X. Really impressed by how good the Ray Tracing is.
I'm actually considering getting this on launch day now. Too bad it doesn't have a 1440p 60 mode with Ray Tracing. The only thing holding me back is the possibility of grabbing an RX 6800 XT around the same time, and knowing I potentially could have played it on PC at 60fps.
Anyways, decisions, decisions ;).
I'm actually considering getting this on launch day now. Too bad it doesn't have a 1440p 60 mode with Ray Tracing. The only thing holding me back is the possibility of grabbing an RX 6800 XT around the same time, and knowing I potentially could have played it on PC at 60fps.
Anyways, decisions, decisions ;).
Wow you're not kidding. It looks almost photorealistic on my phone. Far more impressive than the night time shots.
So it's ready for launch. That doesn't mean all devs will make it on time but it shouldn't take long now.
The raytracing is impressive, and the game looks pretty nice at night. Although the lighting model leaves a bit to be desired, and the way it interacts with materials.
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That would have been nice, but I do not think this engine would manage 60 fps very well on console even without rt - it is stupidly heavy on CPUs on PC.Watch Dogs: Legion [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC]
kids happy with candy pack for each one, when counting candies, one pack has one more than the other, and the meltdowns begin.
The best resolution is native 4k and it seems the worst resolution is 1440p. This is good. This is 499 dollars consoles. More powerful PC have difficulty to play on ultra settings plus RT at 30 fps.
Very curious why they did not offer a 60 fps mode without raytracing.
I hate to break it to you, but PS4 Pro did use VEGA tech.
Having said that, this game looks great and I expect it to be one of the best graphics on both PS5 and Series X!
The game is dynamic 4k not native
From a guy on B3D
Watch Dogs: Legion [PS4, PS5, XO, XBSX|S, PC]
Yeah reflections are good of course with RT but for lighting it looks like they're adding a single sky source light that gets a ray traced pass over their existing lighting system. Very meh. Worth it for reflections but I'd hope you can turn off any attempt at lighting.
1440p at 1 minute 11, it will be the same on PS5 and this is logic compared to Ampere GPU performance.
This is thread worthy Chris.
Especially because it will mean we will get a good indication of the technical and power differences between PS5 and XSX from the start - the game is running dynamic 4K on both from what we have read. So we will be able to see what drops where, how severe the drops are. In an open world game using RT - ie: the most challenging set of conditions.
And this is how I expect most games to go this gen. Both will be native 4K and dynamic resolution with likely some form of reconstruction. Frame rates should be stable but resolution will drop based on load. PS5 more likely to drop and more likely to drop more during action.
You can do it I don't have time to do it now. I need to go.
I would say it Optimised around 30 fps so scaling higher is much harder than usual. The game is incredibly dense for objects on screen. Before I played it, I loaded up the original watch dogs... Legion has easily 10x the geometry and objects on screen while also having better textures, effects, etc.