Yep, High settings are often ignored in benchmarks like these, it's usually Ultra-Maxed out.
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Watch Dogs: Legion - RTX 3090 + i9-10900K (Benchmark) (4k Ultra Settings, Ray-Tracing, DLSS)
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Ultra can always matter. Every game is different and some developers do dumb shit with some of their "Ultra" settings. It's why it is almost always recommended to take 1 step down. Especially when it involves lighting, shadows, or certain effects. It just taxes your system for little to no precipitable benefit.
In Watch Dogs Legion? because in all other games it absolutely is an option.
Videos like this are why I think news outlets such as Digital Foundry, which don't fall into the whole "MUST HAVE ULTRA SETTINGS! FOMO!" mindset that's all-too-common in PC gaming circles, are so important.
Watching this you'd be forgiven to believe that the 3090, a $1,500 card, is "unable" to run this game 'how it's meant to be played'. In reality modern-day PC settings almost always have multiple graphical settings that showcase incredibly minimal graphical improvement at the cost of incredibly significant performance reductions. You can very often have a list of 'Recommended Settings' that look almost identical to 'Ultra' whilst offering substantial performance improvements.
Watching this you'd be forgiven to believe that the 3090, a $1,500 card, is "unable" to run this game 'how it's meant to be played'. In reality modern-day PC settings almost always have multiple graphical settings that showcase incredibly minimal graphical improvement at the cost of incredibly significant performance reductions. You can very often have a list of 'Recommended Settings' that look almost identical to 'Ultra' whilst offering substantial performance improvements.
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yea idk why they don't have proper UW support. BUT. It wouldn't be the first DLSS game that didn't have (or didn't have decent) DLSS performance and options for ultra-wide. IIRC, FF15 was weird. Anthem was weird.
Is the 3090 really the limit though, every test the person did had the game say "your CPU is suck" in the impact screen. Ultra shadows limiting FPS?
only for 1.x, 2.0 supports ultrawide
Guy you replied to made it sound like dlss doesnt work on ultra wide.
Just a reminder that this game was supposed to release last March until Ubisoft delayed their entire lineup due to the Breakpoint backlash.
30 series cards should not be required to get good performance based on that alone. This looks like really bad optimization.
30 series cards should not be required to get good performance based on that alone. This looks like really bad optimization.
Yea. Oh so he was wrong? Okay good. I haven't had a chance to watch this video but I would have been very disappointed if the game didn't support it. Now that UW is common, but most recent games have supported it properly so this would have been a step back.
Mmmmm could be, yea.
If the console versions actually hold 30fps with RTX at 4k, that's actually really impressive.
Of course, who knows what settings the console versions run at. But even with DLSS 'Ultra Performance', it goes down in the high 60's even on one of the fastest gaming CPU's out there, it's CPU limited - jesus. That may explain why there's no lower-res 60fps mode.
Of course, who knows what settings the console versions run at. But even with DLSS 'Ultra Performance', it goes down in the high 60's even on one of the fastest gaming CPU's out there, it's CPU limited - jesus. That may explain why there's no lower-res 60fps mode.
I have...litterally no clue why high wasn't check in that video especially due to some of the stuff high does versus medium and ultra.
That being said. If the settings are there they should be tested and if ultra is (future proofed) I would love devs to now have an indication of doing so. Since titles can be all over the place with what Ultra really means.
That being said. If the settings are there they should be tested and if ultra is (future proofed) I would love devs to now have an indication of doing so. Since titles can be all over the place with what Ultra really means.
It's always fun to be in this part of the GPU launch cycle.
Step 1: High-end GPU launches
Step 2: Gamers get mad when games don't all of a sudden stop including higher and higher ultra options. Apparently graphics tech needs to stop for a year for the sole purpose of stroking the ego of people who buys high-end cards.
Step 3: Praise developers who don't include higher options, claim that means "optimization".
I bet there's two settings that when you turn from ultra down to high it performs 4k60 completely fine. But because they didn't give the setting a dumb marketing name like "Ultra Nightmare" they'll catch flak for merely letting you choose.
Step 1: High-end GPU launches
Step 2: Gamers get mad when games don't all of a sudden stop including higher and higher ultra options. Apparently graphics tech needs to stop for a year for the sole purpose of stroking the ego of people who buys high-end cards.
Step 3: Praise developers who don't include higher options, claim that means "optimization".
I bet there's two settings that when you turn from ultra down to high it performs 4k60 completely fine. But because they didn't give the setting a dumb marketing name like "Ultra Nightmare" they'll catch flak for merely letting you choose.
Wow, those reflections actually add quite a lot. Lots of diffuse reflections.
Might pick up as a showpiece.
Might pick up as a showpiece.
" you don't understand, he is running this on a 3090, a 1.5k graphics card. The best card today, and this game isn't even next gen. it looks good don't get me wrong, but I know my 2080ti won't be able to handle this, so I'm not gonna bother playing it. "You don't have to ultra everything" I'm sorry I have to. And if I can't I won't play. That's just me. "
lmao random comment on youtube. this is also what some of you sound like
have any of you guys seen the "optimal settings for rdr2" pc videos? you dont have to ultra fucking everything. turn down a few settings here and there and you cant notice any difference and you have your 4k60 and your best looking version, still. so your clouds wont be as fluffy. big deal.
lmao random comment on youtube. this is also what some of you sound like
have any of you guys seen the "optimal settings for rdr2" pc videos? you dont have to ultra fucking everything. turn down a few settings here and there and you cant notice any difference and you have your 4k60 and your best looking version, still. so your clouds wont be as fluffy. big deal.
It shouldn't be required for good performance with ray tracing either.
Ultra should be rename to 'Theoretical', 'Future', or 'WARNING'. Seriously, let the devs include as much setting customization as they possibly can so the 50 series can run it sitting down. Trying to restrict this so you don't feel so bad about spending 100s on shiny new tech is pathetic.
Let me rephrase that. I meant the UW resolution of 3840 x 1600 specifically. If it's a thing, then that would be great! I've only see the standard UW resolutions like 3440 x 1440 mentioned.
At that point you have to wonder if they're actually playing the game because they're excited to play a brand new game or if it's just so they can jerk off to the fact that they're getting high frames at a high res
It feels like that half the time
I would imagine that game ready drivers + the usual ticking down of a setting or two will drastically improve performance. But feel free to proceed with the pitchforks in the meantime, I suppose.
Bless the gaming Gods, A 2070 Super performs better at 1080p than a 3090 does at 2160p
Yeah my mistake, thought he applied his settings when switching to Ultra
If I'm remembering correctly, there are a couple of settings that are basically future-proof "Can it run Crysis" kind of settings that aren't really meant to be turned up, especially at launch. If they maxxed those out too, then it makes sense that performance would be shit. Performance on Watch Dogs 2 is shit even on a 3080 with those settings cranked up.
I'm not expecting any difficulties with this title on my 3080 at 1440p. I'll be happy with anything over 60, but I'll report on Friday in the PC Performance thread.
I'm not expecting any difficulties with this title on my 3080 at 1440p. I'll be happy with anything over 60, but I'll report on Friday in the PC Performance thread.
Will be interesting to see if my 9700K is an issue.
I miss having threads.
It does have rtx on.
EDIT: Oddly he selects ray tracing on at the start and the bench at the end says it's off.
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