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Was this White Knight Chronicles reveal trailer the biggest lie in the history of JRPGs?
- Thread starter galvenize
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I actually can't remember to be honest. It's in the same vein as WKC where it's UI slapped in front of a cutscene. I will say, personally I didn't believe the battle system played out like that but at the same time, that slow down explosion with all those damage numbers popping up did make hesitate back then. It was the next gen FF at the time so I was kind of expecting something crazy and that LOOKED bonkers enough to be a next generation battle system lol
If i am not mistaken, the only part of that FFXV trailer that's actually in the game was the shot at the 2 minute mark with the guy marching with his army
It's funny how in basically every reaction I watched of the Athia reveal everyone was like: "Yeah, we won't be seeing that game in our lifetime, lol"
For a second I thought my memory of XV was really bad because I don't remember any of this gameplay, story, or cutscenes in the game I played lol. Except for a bit of that leviathan battle, albeit it was totally different from what I remember.
Man I loved that trailer, used to watch it a lot when I was a teen.
But this WKC was the actual best, the song gave me goosbumps:
I weep every night, and I even attached a poster of XV over my bed the other day lol
But this WKC was the actual best, the song gave me goosbumps:
I weep every night, and I even attached a poster of XV over my bed the other day lol
Yeah, I was rewatching this with my husband the other day and he said the same thing, lol!
yeah this stung, id also throw the first two no mans sky trailers in this list. The game is good now, but its still not that.
First: even back then i couldn't belive that they called it that way. if you try to train an ai to generate the most generic rpg name, i think it would not be able to make a more bland and generic name than that.
And with time passing it got even comical (white knight)
Also, did not know that it was by level 5.
The trailer: at first i thoguth: what are you talking about, long loading times and boring looking graphics/artstyle... but then the battle koordination/animation, bullshit. Thats cutscene animation, not battle animation. All in all the trailer still does not look great?
And with time passing it got even comical (white knight)
Also, did not know that it was by level 5.
The trailer: at first i thoguth: what are you talking about, long loading times and boring looking graphics/artstyle... but then the battle koordination/animation, bullshit. Thats cutscene animation, not battle animation. All in all the trailer still does not look great?
Wait, wasn't this supposed to be revived on the Switch or something?
There's not much of a difference and game marketing is manipulative, arguably moreso than any other kind of marketing.
Also that WKC "target render" is labeled as a trailer.
Again, this is just absurd. There is a world of difference if there's actually a game that exists and running in real time or if someone made a target render where every system is fake. You're bascially saying there's no difference between a CG trailer and a gameplay trailer.
It was said that in the 10th anniversary of the trailer, yes, but the last bit of news was that development haven't begun :v
(That was two years ago, to be fair)
Another Level-5 classic:
I remember thinking "wow this is a set piece in ND or santa monica's level"
but then, none of it is real
Not surprised at all that Kagari mentioned XV sigh... thread will now be entirely focused on that and continue the cycle.
Oh well. I'll just come in and say that I really need to try White Knight Chronicles one day.
Oh well. I'll just come in and say that I really need to try White Knight Chronicles one day.
If you ever do want to play it, get WKC 2 as it includes a remastered version of 1 and is honestly much better.
The battle system is nothing like this, no hit detection or anything.
To be honest some of the stuff there is beyond even the best stuff from ND/Santa Monica. If they actually had pulled it off it would have been the greatest set piece ever
I would actually support this kinda thing in this specific scenario, no BS.
WKC is the biggest JRPG lie to me.
FFXV was nothing like that first gameplay reveal, but its overall look somewhat resembled the final game. It wasn't a generation ahead, it should've been possible on at least Pro or 1X.
WKC however, the fidelity, lighting, animations, combat, fucking everything wouldn't feel out of place on PS4 despite it being an early PS3 announcement. The actual game didn't even look shit imo (some areas looked good), but it was absolutely nothing like the reveal. And I don't even hate WKC. It was addicting online and Georama was sort of dumb fun.
FFXV was nothing like that first gameplay reveal, but its overall look somewhat resembled the final game. It wasn't a generation ahead, it should've been possible on at least Pro or 1X.
WKC however, the fidelity, lighting, animations, combat, fucking everything wouldn't feel out of place on PS4 despite it being an early PS3 announcement. The actual game didn't even look shit imo (some areas looked good), but it was absolutely nothing like the reveal. And I don't even hate WKC. It was addicting online and Georama was sort of dumb fun.
Am I wrong though? That trailer absolutely isn't the game we ended up with.
Then you don't understand what a target render is
That's not what I'm saying btw.
They did build FFXV on luminous from 2014-2016, with the initial full team development starting in late 2011/early 2012. Now that they know they are using luminous, plus the experience from before.... Those 130-150 devs might be able to do a new concept with the same engine expanded sooner.
That doesn't even look good compared to what we actually got. Looks like even more of an on-rails mess.
Diablo III: Gameplay Trailer
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From a gameplay perspective Diablo 3 is fairly consistent with its initial reveal, but some of the artstyle and overall tone of the final game really diverges from when it was revealed.
Visually, fair enough. But mainly the gameplay elements, characters and story are the missing pieces here.
they still promising it's gonna be released. probably not that version though
the sad part is, if Creatures still made battle sims, we could get this by now. people called me out for it in my thread, but I still believe the GCN/Wii games have better battle presentation than Sword and Shield by a country mile
Wasn't the battle system tweak the only thing they changed in that version ?
Hey, in my defense it's a beautiful piece :(
I bought it at the temporary SE cafe a couple of days before the release of the game!
Yeah, in retrospect it's very obviously all fake but in 2006 when we had no idea what Square might be capable of on the PS3 anything seemed possible lol
Still closer to what playing the final game looks like than that FF15 trailer.
I remember them changing the leveling system too and there were a bunch of smaller tweaks too.
I'm with you. Waited 10 years for this and ended up being one of the most disappointing games in the series next to FFXIII.
Hey, in my defense it's a beautiful piece :(
I bought it at the temporary SE cafe a couple of days before the release of the game!
Yeah, that is a beautiful artwork. :) I was fascinated by it since they first revealed it alongside the Dawn trailer. None of the content of that trailer is in the final game either. :(
That's game development for you. It was revealed in 2006, and released in 2008. A lot can happen during game development, and especially over 2 years, and I don't hold it against them for showing an impressive vertical slice of a game, before all the real work of building the game out is done, then, as development continues, the game is expanded beyond the vertical slice, things change, get scaled back, optimized, etc. It happens all of the time.
It's not even a new phenomena in the world of gaming, yet gamers always manage to disappoint themselves when a final product fails to match the perfectly curated reveal trailers or gameplay demos.
As for the game itself, I really enjoyed WKC. It scratched a JRPG itch that I had, and I'm a big fan of Level 5, so I was going to be there day 1, no matter how much it changed from the reveal. Then we got Ni No Kuni, and all was right with the world...
It's not even a new phenomena in the world of gaming, yet gamers always manage to disappoint themselves when a final product fails to match the perfectly curated reveal trailers or gameplay demos.
As for the game itself, I really enjoyed WKC. It scratched a JRPG itch that I had, and I'm a big fan of Level 5, so I was going to be there day 1, no matter how much it changed from the reveal. Then we got Ni No Kuni, and all was right with the world...
Hmmm, I actually hard disagree on that one hey. XIII looks nothing like what we got outside of some of the UI elements. It was clearly cg or a pre-rendered cutscene though *. The XV trailer actually showed what the game looked like and what we got was pretty much the same OUTSIDE of that pre-rendered leviathan section (Square do love this shit don't they lol). The part in that trailer where Noctis is fighting in the citadel with a Behemoth and Iron Giant is what the final game looked like, hell even Gladio stepping in was reserved. Unfortunately the flashier parts of the trailer is what everyone remembers.
EDIT : *Talking about the battle system
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