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Was Doc Brown racist?
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That's not fair to Doc. Japan in 1955 was nowhere near the technological giant it would become, and few believed they would ever be a true competitor. Besides, people were still pretty angry with the Japanese thanks to the slew of WW2 propaganda depicting them as savages.
This was in 1955 so 10 years after the war so yeah, IIRC anything from Japan in that time was ridiculized. I think it's through the 70's that the reputation of Japanese tech improved.
Japan was hit really hard after WWII, and it mostly made cheap knock-off goods for a while, before getting its shit together and leading. Korea did the same in the 80s and 90s, and now China is on course to do the same.
So, to answer your question, maybe not. But probably.
So, to answer your question, maybe not. But probably.
Yeah, I always see jokes about "made in China" (that sucks as well)
No but Marty is absolutely an homophobic
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Not that it is a surprise considering how big he is on reinforcing his masculinity while jeoparding everything else =P
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Not that it is a surprise considering how big he is on reinforcing his masculinity while jeoparding everything else =P
Japanese electronics were seen as 'cheap' when they first entered the markets. Even Honda and Toyota had the same reputation.
I always saw it as the same kind of line as the "Ronald Reagan?! The Actor?!" line from the first movie. Marty using knowledge from his time to blow the mind of someone from the 50s.
The movie is a fictional setting in 1955 where present day is 1985. No, he's not confusing asians, it's a direct defence of Japan dominating electronics in the 1980s when in the 1950s they were recovering and did not have the reputation of leading electronics.
I mean doc could be racist for sure but not this broadly.
No but Marty is absolutely an homophobic
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Not that it is a surprise considering how big he is on reinforcing his masculinity while jeoparding everything else =P
Given the propensity of 80s movies to throw it around, I was relieved for it not to be an F-bomb.
More sleeved out by Doc Brown's creepy wink at Marty feeling up his own mom.
I think China is already beyond that. China makes some of the best stuff if they're tasked to or want to.
Wait, are you me watching this film today?
I was thinking about making a thread about whether Biff's winning bets on sports games should've changed the timeline such that the Almanac eventually became useless.
I was thinking about making a thread about whether Biff's winning bets on sports games should've changed the timeline such that the Almanac eventually became useless.
It's meant to be a joke that in the 50s, Japan wasn't the tech giant it was by the 80s when the film was made.
Eventually it would have, but Biff didn't make all his money on the almanac, he used his initial millions to invest and start up his businesses and become a tycoon. At a certain point he didn't need to make any money with it anymore and put it in his vault.
This was a joke on Japanese product quality between 1955 and 1985.
In 1955, Japanese products were considered cheap knockoffs.
By 1985, Japanese products were considered the highest of quality.
It had nothing to do with lingering anti Japanese sentiment from World War II.
In 1955, Japanese products were considered cheap knockoffs.
By 1985, Japanese products were considered the highest of quality.
It had nothing to do with lingering anti Japanese sentiment from World War II.
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Yeah... it's just a fish out of water joke. There's really no deeper meaning behind it.
Yeah, post WW2 anti japan sentiment is basically the same as cold war anti russian / socialism and post 9/11 anti arab / muslim sentiment. America love their boogeyman...
No but Marty is absolutely an homophobic
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Not that it is a surprise considering how big he is on reinforcing his masculinity while jeoparding everything else =P
Homophobia aside, I feel dumb not realizing his "permit" was a bribe after all these years.
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Not that it is a surprise considering how big he is on reinforcing his masculinity while jeoparding everything else =P
wow wow wow
That's what I figured. But, Biff is also a supreme idiot so I don't know how long his business ventures would last.
Yeah, considering other 80's movies, JUST saying LGBT people are screwed for life is pretty mild =P
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Not that it is a surprise considering how big he is on reinforcing his masculinity while jeoparding everything else =P
Yeah media was extremely homophobic until the 2000s.
He's not quite as stupid as he seems, he does have some basic cunning. It's old Biff that came up with the idea after all.
well it's a joke on the times.
"there's that word again: Heavy. Is there a problem with the Earth's gravitational pull?"
I dont think it would of too much. Sure if you count the 'bitterfly' effect as having a major influence then maybe, but Biff betting on the games wouldnt have actually made an effect on the teams performance, spending etc after each of his bets. Nobody in the modern day changes there tactics/apporach/goals based on how people are betting really.
FWIW China is miles ahead today of what Japan was then. It'd be like buying a computer with 'Made in Somalia' today.
I thought "it was a different time" was reasonable as long as it wasn't used as an excuse and instead an explanation without excusal.
I almost can't keep up anymore.
I almost can't keep up anymore.
That statement is fine, it's fine to generalize industries by region, companies aren't people... that's like saying a report on a foreign market is racist for generalizing a region ... was there xenophobia at the time and rampant racism, yes, does a generalization about production quality equate to the same thing? Not in my opinion.
Edit: now I see people didn't even follow the joke, so I can see why some folks thought it was racist ... no, crippled by ww2 Japan grew into an electronics powerhouse from economic ruin in the early 50s
Edit: now I see people didn't even follow the joke, so I can see why some folks thought it was racist ... no, crippled by ww2 Japan grew into an electronics powerhouse from economic ruin in the early 50s
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I mean, it's racist for sure, but I am not so sure it's actual racism so much as general nationalistic xenophobia. Or hell, it could just be that it's a joke about Japanese dominance in tech in the 1980's, when Japanese technology was barely breaking in and lower quality (then again, so was everything, hence the nationalism).
Though I also don't know much about Japanese technology evolution in the 1950's, but I can only assume that a post WW2 America would be pretty xenophobic against Japanese products, similar to how many Americans are against Chinese products of any kind
Though I also don't know much about Japanese technology evolution in the 1950's, but I can only assume that a post WW2 America would be pretty xenophobic against Japanese products, similar to how many Americans are against Chinese products of any kind