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Warren drops out of Democratic Primary
- Thread starter Mr.Awesome
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that ship has probably sailed, which is probably going to complicate her endorsement plans.
I see we have an armchair headliner here.
Given you boldly advised us to look at her record, please, go down through that record and show us this Reaganite Republican
Voting Record | U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
The Official U.S. Senate website of Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
www.warren.senate.gov
Her options are to endorse Biden, and forever be branded as the one who knifed Bernie in exchange for some executive orders on banking regulation or her choice of some assistant Treasury secretaries, or to endorse Bernie, take an outside but still substantial chance of being VP/Treasury Secretary/successor President, and if not, oh well, she's still a powerful Senator, with her relationship with the progressive wing now solidified, and able to influence Biden plenty that way. Like, if she endorses Biden, there's no way this isn't her last Senate term. I don't see her surviving a primary after that. Whereas even in a Biden wins scenario, Senator Warren can be the effective leader of the progressive wing of things as long as she can get herself out of bed and onto the Senate floor.
She ran as a pragmatic progressive. If she is, she'll eventually endorse Biden because she realizes that the number one priority is getting Trump out and helping down ballot to take back the Senate.
Healthcare bills are a complex problem solved by a functioning federal government, the execution of which is far beyond a forum thread.
Snarky drive-bys are solved by exercising just a little basic restraint and valuing informed discussion over burping out every stray half-formed reaction that crosses one's mind.
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she literally used to be an anti-LGBTQIA+ Republican so?????
Seemed like a no-brainer to me but I'm not American so my opinion is worthless.
However, voting for the candidate with the best climate plan, during the climate crisis, seemed to be the thing to do.
I'll reserve my judgment until after she endorses someone.
Maybe the actually progressive Warren supporters will. Bernie supporters definitely won't.
No one except crazed Bernie fans care about the scenario you are presenting, not in any meaningful way. And certainly not the majority of Warren supporters.
She would be wise not to endorse anyone until after the convention is over.
She was my top pick... But alas, it was not to be. She burned out too early.
Yep. Warren had the white professional class as her base. Not exactly a group that will be enthusiastically Bernie.
What does this mean? She had been distancing herself from Biden for most of the primary.
What kind of thinking is this? God forbid we expect something from our politicians.
"Nickname nickname half fact half fact nickname nickname bad punctuation"
That's all I see.
Gleefully burning the bridge of the best ally they had... then demanding support.
Sure.
Every time he posts about Sanders, his entire purpose is to divide the man's base from the general election.
I will say- his analysis of the dem primary to this point has been the most cogent and sensible he has been since he became president.
Yeah, but. Is he wrong?
Way to sidestep my comment? Did I say she never was a Republican? I very explicitly am talking about her record as a Senator and her platform for presidency this cycle.
Who gives a fuck if she used to be one 40 years ago if she reformed her views.
If American politics needs more of anything it's the ability to evolve and refine one's positions based on new information.
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Every time I see this abbreviation it gets longer, it's really fascinating.
Sure it can be. For instance, one could think Bernie can't win against Trump and would prefer to have Warren with some leverage in Biden's admin pushing it left.
I also don't really see how Warren joining Sanders would really help him. Theoretically, Warren joining Biden broadens Biden's base (as many progressive-leaning voters will stomach Biden if only as not!Trump and would hope that Warren in that camp would push it left) whereas Warren joining Sanders does... what exactly? Progressives who were for Warren over Sanders were not so because Sanders' professed policies are out of sync with Warren's but for other reasons--many of them unchanged whether Warren is in that camp or not. Moderate-to-rights who were for Warren aren't joining Sanders because Warren endorses him.
In any case, I expect her not to endorse anyone. I also think it's unlikely that either campaign chooses her as VP -- two old white people on the ticket isn't going to sit well with the dem base.
Trump's nicknames don't seem as effective this go-round.
I don't hear anyone calling Sanders and Biden "Crazy Bernie" or "Sleepy Joe" the way that "Lyin' Ted" or "Little Marco" took off in 2016.
It's a shame her campaign team was terrible because she was the best candidate of this primary and my number one pick initially.
Though I'm going to echo what others have said in this thread: she should have dropped a week ago. Splitting the progressive vote didn't help her or Bernie.
I really like Warren, but we don't need two old white people on the Democratic ticket. You know how tonedeaf that would be?
Though I'm going to echo what others have said in this thread: she should have dropped a week ago. Splitting the progressive vote didn't help her or Bernie.
I really like Warren, but we don't need two old white people on the Democratic ticket. You know how tonedeaf that would be?
"Give me what I want no matter how stupid it is or fuck off" isn't "expecting".
I really hope Bernie supporters don't pretend like they liked Warren all along if she endorses him. The way she's been treated over the past few months fucking disgusts me and you should all be ashamed of yourselves. And we pretend to be progressive. That's such a joke.
It's quite the welcoming, big tent, coalition you're building there.
This means she actually wants to get things done. She's closer to Bernie in policy yes. But Bernie's campaign is over. She knows that Biden can help down ballot to possibly win back the Senate and she will eventually endorse him to take back the government and be able to pass progressive legislature. Warren is not stupid and digging her heels in to help a losing campaign and fracture the party further doesn't do anything to actually help the situation...having all three branches again, even with a more moderate (but still progressive) president can allow her and fellow progressives to push legislation through. What does endorsing Bernie and risking a greater split in the party get her?
She's a terrific candidate and I hope she tries again in the future.
But this is the correct move and hopefully she'll endorse Bernie.
But this is the correct move and hopefully she'll endorse Bernie.
I just don't see why she wouldn't endorse Bernie. Biden sure as hell isn't giving her the time of day and she has nothing to lose by endorsing Bernie i don't understand why she isn't doing it right away.