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Warren campaign might not be source of CNN story about Bernie Sanders saying a woman can't win [SEE STAFF POST]
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The rush to judgment people have made about this story is embarrassing. So many people I usually respect have just acted foolish.
I think primaries just make usually rational people act out of character
I think primaries just make usually rational people act out of character
The whole thing was overblown from the onset.
Warren just assumed it was true and overreacted to it. Which is a bad look for her IMO. Knee-jerk reactions isn't a good presidential trait.
Bernie was defensive, and rightfully so, because Warren is blasting him right on stage.
It took on a life of its own and now everyone is wasting their time on it rather than important debate topics.
Warren just assumed it was true and overreacted to it. Which is a bad look for her IMO. Knee-jerk reactions isn't a good presidential trait.
Bernie was defensive, and rightfully so, because Warren is blasting him right on stage.
It took on a life of its own and now everyone is wasting their time on it rather than important debate topics.
What the fuck? Warren reacted to Bernie denying something he said to her face! You can argue that she maybe misunderstood Bernie or Bernie used the wrong words to get his point across ( like he has does multiple-fucking-times!)
But the amount of Bernie fans in the last few days calling her a out and out lair was fucking embarrassing.
As I expected but here is the rub in all this
Warren and Bernie has ample opportunity to react, coordinate and address this
For now this mess has gotten stupid enough that I, for one, am glad they have dropped it and moved on
I suggest the rest of the fan clubs do the same. We have more important things ahead of us
Warren and Bernie has ample opportunity to react, coordinate and address this
For now this mess has gotten stupid enough that I, for one, am glad they have dropped it and moved on
I suggest the rest of the fan clubs do the same. We have more important things ahead of us
CNN is the fucking worst. They should be banned from hosting debates.
Years ago I saw a News 1 NYC debate for Mayor (I think) , it was much more substantive than any cable news presidential debate I've ever seen.
Years ago I saw a News 1 NYC debate for Mayor (I think) , it was much more substantive than any cable news presidential debate I've ever seen.
Like I said in the other thread, they both fed this situation and their political instincts were so bad they couldn't predict how their current actions would have played out in the future. Sometimes its better to take a moderate approach instead of fighting just to fight.
Maybe this story will finally die down but I think the damage has been done already, parts of these factions hold grudges like no other. Clearly some already had serious issues before this, the shit the was being said didnt spring up out of nowhere.
Maybe this story will finally die down but I think the damage has been done already, parts of these factions hold grudges like no other. Clearly some already had serious issues before this, the shit the was being said didnt spring up out of nowhere.
So it's CNN, and others trying to put Warren and sanders against each other because a ticket with both of them would win by 13%, than actual reform would happen
Seriously. The media and a lot of you people(not you specifically) here and otherwise learned fucking nothing since 2016.
I'd prefer Warren but happily vote for sanders or even Biden if it means beating Trump.
There is no both of them. They're running against each other.
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I think with the amount of hate ERA has for Bernie, I wouldn't be surprised if this forum turns full alt-right if Bernie gets the nomination.
While true, I still find the probability of a w&b, b&w ticket high, same as a Biden ,& kamalha
This issue won't go away until they clear up what happened. Warren says he said it, Bernie denies it. One of them is lying.
Should either of them get to the general, they're going to have to deal with Trump bringing this up over and over.
Should either of them get to the general, they're going to have to deal with Trump bringing this up over and over.
Assumed what was true? The whole crux of this is based on a one-on-one conversation between the two of them.
Silly season.
Aye. It's really depressing that so many people glommed onto it.
A ticket with Sanders and Warren would probably get absolutely nothing done.
I'm slightly confused, didn't read the whole thread, but if Warren invited a bunch of journalists and told them that... isn't that planting the information? Not that I want to absolve CNN from the shitshow they created. Shit, I want a Bernie/Warren ticket for 2020, so I hope they can put this behind them.
I feel the exact same way.
Every time I would see the "handshake gate" thread bubble to the top this week I found it infuriating.
The more I think about it the more I think things line up with Warren's events.
Bernie could certainly have said a woman can't beat Trump while still holding the belief that a woman can be president. They aren't the same thing. Bernie used the excuse that he wanted Warren to run in 2016 and only ran when she declined, so what made 2020 different? Could it be because he doesn't believe a woman can beat Trump?
Bernie could certainly have said a woman can't beat Trump while still holding the belief that a woman can be president. They aren't the same thing. Bernie used the excuse that he wanted Warren to run in 2016 and only ran when she declined, so what made 2020 different? Could it be because he doesn't believe a woman can beat Trump?
You don't even need to have read the thread, just the first line of the OP:
At the end of 20...fucking...18, jeez....
I'd be happy with a Sanders/Warren ticket. And giving her VP + Treasury Secretary would make her the most powerful VP in our country's history, wouldn't it? Alternatively, I wouldn't be opposed to a ticket with Warren and Yang as VP. He's got some ideas that nobody else is really talking about, and he's been unusually good as a unifying voice. Seems like he's got appeal to the moderates and even some right wingers.
I hope the ship hasn't sailed on the possibility of Sanders + Warren. These two are the most progressive candidates in the field, and I'm still happy to vote for either. This feud seems like it was drawn up more for ratings than anything else, and the only one it helps is Donald Trump...the media approach makes a lot more sense in the context of the fact that these stations might be enjoying some of their best ratings in a while, and that their executives probably don't want that to stop.
I hope the ship hasn't sailed on the possibility of Sanders + Warren. These two are the most progressive candidates in the field, and I'm still happy to vote for either. This feud seems like it was drawn up more for ratings than anything else, and the only one it helps is Donald Trump...the media approach makes a lot more sense in the context of the fact that these stations might be enjoying some of their best ratings in a while, and that their executives probably don't want that to stop.
Do you really believe that was a genuine moment? As if she didnt know she had a mic on her? Come on now.
'Dat persecution complex in a thread dominated by people calling Warren a calculating liar. Extraordinary.
It's almost like... era wants to signal boost and spread more chaos among progressives to ensure none of them can win.
I think it's too late for any confirmation either way. People usually don't follow up with the initial story, draw their own conclusions, and it gets muddied on from there.
I wish I could stop watching CNN, but that would require me to have the ability to do so in the first place.
I wish I could stop watching CNN, but that would require me to have the ability to do so in the first place.
I think its pretty obvious people dont want too. Anyone in this thread still trying to stoke this shit or put this on anyone but CNN is looking for a fight, and is literally fighting to keep this shit alive because they prefer it that way. Claiming the intercept is doing damage control for Warren vs Bernie is the height of stupidity. People would rather bend reality than to let this silly shit go.
Can't wait to see the same people blame everyone but themselves when Biden is the runaway Primary winner.
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Shoutout to people who actually keep private conversations private. Also as usual: fuck CNN.
If Warren had let this go and if she had let Bernie call her a liar, people would be up in arms about her not being tough enough to stand up to Trump. "If she lets Bernie walk all over her, she has no chance against Trump."
So do we want someone who will fight back earnestly, or someone that'll just let their opponent lie and mischaracterize them?
Yeah that was a really pathetic display and really disappointing to see.
The post quoted was excellent.
Why would people be suspicious of someone that pretended to be a person of color for 70 years? Someone that says a private conversation should remain private, even though they recounted their version of what was said to a room of people.
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I fucking hate all of you that made this into a fucking 1000s of posts thread. You fucking actively dangerous pieces of garbage. If you are still stoking the fires of this dumb-ass, very obviously media propagated bullshit to create divisiveness then you are less than usless, you are actively harmful and creating situations in which you will never achieve the things you want because of your fucking pride. Shut the fuck up.
Your are embarrassing yourself. Trump will not win because of some insignificant intra-party quibbles and this forum will not turn alt right, what an outrageous and dumb thing to say.
Do better.
Stop posting and put these threads on ignore. In fact after this post I will be putting this thread on ignore.