Can't imagine she'd be supporting him if she did believe he's sexually assaulted a woman.
Agreed. What is even the point of being a leftist or progressive figure if you can't even do the bare minimum?I mean, if Sanders says it (and in all likelihood if pressed he will probably defend Biden), then fuck him. He can go kick rocks to the ends of the universe if he choose to say something similar to Warren is saying right now.
Saying "I believe that everyone has a right to tell her story, to be listened to, and treated with respect" and that she found what Biden said was credible means she thinks rape is not bad? Ok.Warren continuing to lift the veil and reveal that she was never progressive all along
She could cheer him on vs trump while also saying that rape is bad. Orrrrrr she can continue kissing Joe's ass and showing where her priorities really stand.
Maybe, maybe not. But I bet they didn't excuse a credibly accuser rapist on live TV.Have fun supporting someone more conservative than her, I guess?
I'm said her primary opponent.
And I said supporting a primary challenge to someone like her is a self own.
Some Democrat in MA will run for Warren's seat and not have endorsed Biden, potentially then President Biden?Maybe, maybe not. But I bet they didn't excuse a credibly accuser rapist on live TV.
I'm said her primary opponent.
The way I see it, you gotta give *some* credit to Biden for not only calling for all relevant documents to be made public, but also for willingly putting himself in a position to be grilled by Mika on live television. People were saying that the media was conspiring to sweep this under the rug, but Mika gave him a pretty thorough grilling. As well as the fact that he didn't come out and call Reade a liar or try to make guesses as to her motivations.I actually didn't expect this.
I wonder what Sanders thinks. If he came out and said the same thing...I wonder how people would react.
Not sure why Warren is obligated to not believe Biden if she really does. My hope is that she really does not believe Tara, and she's not just saying despite her personal beliefs. It would be really disappointing if this was just politicing.
Warren continuing to lift the veil and reveal that she was never progressive all along
She could cheer him on vs trump while also saying that rape is bad. Orrrrrr she can continue kissing Joe's ass and showing where her priorities really stand.
It probably is politicking to a certain extent. If she wants to be VP (and I admit that's just an assumption, though not an unreasonable one), she has no choice, let's face it. It's the sad reality of politics, she's damned either way regardless of her personal beliefs. :\I actually didn't expect this.
I wonder what Sanders thinks. If he came out and said the same thing...I wonder how people would react.
Not sure why Warren is obligated to not believe Biden if she really does. My hope is that she really does not believe Tara, and she's not just saying despite her personal beliefs. It would be really disappointing if this was just politicing.
No I will not ignore you blatantly joking about a sexual assault allegation with the implication that it's perfectly fine for a presidential nominee to be a possible rapist, especially right now during allegations.
Really?
It's not like they're mutually exclusive things. You can be progressive and still identify with the Democratic party. Other people will be further left than you, but that's okay. Leftists don't have a monopoly on progressivism, on wanting a better world, or on basic human decency.She's still a progressive but time and time again, she has proven herself to be very loyal to her party so this isn't surprising.
I mean there's already a multitude of posts calling her a fake progressive, being so desperate for a VP position that she is throwing away her principles, causing Bernie to lose...lol. Bets on who shit on her because the report on what Bernie said months ago, or calling her a snake because she didn't drop out sooner.Have you even read the responses so far? Yikes dude, you're already on the defensive over nothing.
You inferred quite a lot. We've already had a few threads on the allegations so you can read my posts there if it's that important to you. But right now theres nothing preventing me from voting for Biden because the evidence isnt there yet.
This is silly. Give all of Warren's primary votes to Bernie and he still gets smoked.Congrats on Warren for successfully blocking Bernie then becoming Joe's VP pick. Sigh.
Report them for making jokes about it. It's what I did and the best thing we can doNo I will not ignore you blatantly joking about a sexual assault allegation with the implication that it's perfectly fine for a presidential nominee to be a possible rapist, especially right now during allegations.
She came in third in her own state, which is solidly blue. And she's old. I'd say she's near the very bottom of potential VP picks.
Biden is the last bullet in the chamber to save this country, and that is no hyperbole. They all know this.
All of those who have survived sexual assault have every right to and should abstain from this election. Those who have the stomach to vote for Biden so the party may live to fight another day know what they need to do, this is our last chance.
Bernie, AOC, Warren. All your heroes twisting themselves in knots because they can't see past Trump and democratic unity. You don't have to comment, in fact without evidence nobody should.
LOL, exactly! I don't know why some people are so confident she will get the VP nod. It makes absolutely no sense. She is not a popular candidate. Her being added to the ticket will not help at all. She won't be VPShe came in third in her own state, which is solidly blue. And she's old. I'd say she's near the very bottom of potential VP picks.
AOC said she'll vote for Biden, but didn't specifically give support beyond that. It's likely that she'd support whatever the democratic nominee will be against Trump. Specifically about the allegations, I don't get the idea that she stands behind Biden at all:AOC went on The View to endorse Biden also, did she not? It's good to see the whole party standing behind Joe.
I think people really underestimate just how much everybody in Congress really likes Biden on a personal level. Even Bernie seemed to have a soft spot for him. Bernie of all people!
On Tuesday evening in an online conversation with The Wing, a networking and community space for women, a questioner asked Ocasio-Cortez about the accusation recently leveled against Biden by Tara Reade, who worked for him when he was a Delaware senator in the 1990s. The questioner opposes President Trump's reelection, but also "really resents the fact that the other choice is someone who has a really long history of being creepy to women."
Ocasio-Cortez responded, "What you're voicing is so legitimate and real. That's why I find this kind of silencing of all dissent to be a form of gaslighting."
She went on to say, "I think it's legitimate to talk about these things. And if we want, if we again want to have integrity, you can't say, you know — both believe women, support all of this, until it inconveniences you, until it inconveniences us."
"A lot of us are survivors, and it's really, really hard and uncomfortable." Not discussing allegations is the "exact opposite of integrity" the congresswoman said, adding that it is "not okay" to prioritize beating Trump over discussing sensitive #MeToo issues like these because they are "very legitimate things."
She came in third in her own state, which is solidly blue. And she's old. I'd say she's near the very bottom of potential VP picks.
I'm not voting for Biden, I'm voting for the Supreme Court Justice seats. If you can't see how much worse off we'll be for a generation if we lose those seats, your imagination is deficient.save this country as in the likes of Biden/Trump/Kavanaugh? The ongoing war machine? For Profit healthcare? Absolutely corrupt damn near everything thats all legal because of lobbying or our gentlemen agreements?. This is a shit sandwich. We got some crumbs with obama. Sure. Sure. And this is what we got afterward. The cycle is just destined to repeat. The people of this country are the problem, not the president. Deaths dont matter to Americans. Nothing happened getting rid of 100's of thousands of muslims, or tossing the black population in prison at birth.
Go biden, while the rest of all non white/males/anything besides straight peoples lives continue to stay damn near the same and are no where near experiencing any sort of equality? That shits getting very old. Worse is the status-quo for many americans. At a certain point more worserererz doesn't seem like much of a change. The campaigns message is just "it can be worse for you. Not us, we will be fine. Lots of us are still on the fence with a lot of this facism ya know? but you? Your people will be the target for sure!"
If hes the last bullet, its going to be a wet ass fart that shits in your ear.
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then it molests you.
What exactly would you expect a progressive to say when asked about something like this? Ignoring the others because saying those things is wrong, the second point especially might not be wrong in this case. As for the first I think a lot of people have been disappointed by things she's said multiple times over the past months which makes them question her positions. I fully expect people to be angry if Sanders said the same thing as Warren.I mean there's already a multitude of posts calling her a fake progressive, being so desperate for a VP position that she is throwing away her principles, causing Bernie to lose...lol. Bets on who shit on her because the report on what Bernie said months ago, or calling her a snake because she didn't drop out sooner.
Damn, she is so good. Can't wait for that AOC presidency.AOC said she'll vote for Biden, but didn't specifically give support beyond that. It's likely that she'd support for whatever the democratic nominee will be against Trump. Specifically about the allegations, I don't get the idea that she stands behind Biden at all:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: "It's legitimate to talk about" allegations against Joe Biden
The New York congresswoman said of the sexual assault allegation against Biden that "silencing of all dissent" is "form of gaslighting."www.cbsnews.com
I swear I read this nonsense in every Warren-related thread.Congrats on Warren for successfully blocking Bernie then becoming Joe's VP pick. Sigh.
Nah, it ain't that simple or binary. How about you not tell people how they should vote/not vote.If any of y'all support this democratic party this year, y'all have no spine. They had a chance to be revolutionary instead its come to this. Don't vote.
Arm chair politics - righteous bullshit. This stuff is comedy because there is no difference between this party and the other. Straight up.
She wants to be VP sooo bad. All these politicians will do anything to get that sweet sweet powah.
If we take this attitude Trump wins. Gotta hold your nose and vote for Biden because a Biden presidency will make us better off than a Trump one.If any of y'all support this democratic party this year, y'all have no spine. They had a chance to be revolutionary instead its come to this. Don't vote.
Arm chair politics - righteous bullshit. This stuff is comedy because there is no difference between this party and the other. Straight up.
prosecutors aren't exactly the best authority on what represents credible evidence against given how poorly assault is handled in the justice system. Maybe in a courtroom setting but we aren't in one.Is there a chance in the mind of people that Biden, despite his obvious "loves to touch" thing, didn't actually do this particular deed?
I mean I get the "I hate Biden I want it to be true" feelings some people have but setting that aside... Is there actually credible evidence? Because i was reading up on all the "why" questions by some prosecutors and although nothing is conclusive there was credible doubt on her part on what she was saying, what she has done, and how she has handled it for the many many years since then?
She came in third in her own state, which is solidly blue. And she's old. I'd say she's near the very bottom of potential VP picks.
LOL, exactly! I don't know why some people are so confident she will get the VP nod. It makes absolutely no sense. She is not a popular candidate. Her being added to the ticket will not help at all. She won't be VP
Sen. Elizabeth Warren leads a new CBS poll for Joe Biden's running mate, with 36 percent of registered Democrats naming the Massachusetts senator as their top vice presidential pick.
The poll—which also found an overwhelming 71 percent of voters saying that Warren should at least be considered for the spot—cited economic expertise and crisis management as the leading qualities they wanted to see in Biden's choice. If he wins in November, Biden has previously signaled that he may only serve one term, making his pick for VP all the more consequential.
Warren tops new poll for Biden's VP
Meanwhile, Biden said that the campaign is looking at "more than a dozen women" for the pick.www.motherjones.com
The whole reason Obama picked Biden was to win over over moderate Republicans and independents. I think he himself has got that range covered. If he's looking for a unifying vote, a progressive VP will leave no stone unturned.Warren is 100% NOT going to be Biden's VP pick for these reasons and also this one- Biden is going to be focused on winning over moderate Republicans and independents. He doesn't need to throw progressives a bone.