That leaked plot sounded terrible, and the fact that the trailer seems to confirm it's authenticity makes me sad.
Yeah, that's why.
Here my post from the Final Trailer thread, its a doozy.
So the entire fucking film was basically an attempt to make a cinematic universe out of the Hannah-Barbara cartoons. Jesus H...
I refuse to believe this is real.Here my post from the Final Trailer thread, its a doozy.
I know someone already posted an image, but to four or five decades ago, depending on how supernatural you consider the crossovers in the 70s "movies".At what point did Scooby Doo switch from being a show about fraudulent paranormal activity to being a show about real honest-to-god ghosts and monsters? As a kid it seemed like every story was about some phony haunting, but when I get glimpses of it now the show very much seems to involve them actually battling monsters and demons and stuff.
Question. Was there a reason they got rid of the old gang to make Shaggy, Daphne, Scooby and crappy the main characters?
No idea the official reason, I guess to keep cast small but have new regulars.Question. Was there a reason they got rid of the old gang to make Shaggy, Daphne, Scooby and crappy the main characters?
I mean, a Hannah-Barbera cinematic universe isn't a terrible idea, it's just that they seem to be repeating the same mistake BvS/JL, The Mummy, Godzilla KOTM, etc made by jumping into the deep end instead of setting up the principle players one-by-one the way Marvel did.
I think throwing out the voice cast was such a trash move.
Frank Welker has been the voice of Fred for over 50 years and now it's Zac Efron for this movie. Lol. Fuck off.
Unfortunately that's just how shit rolls in Hollywood. Studios think that the name of a known screen actor will boost the BO of their animated kids movie, and will always choose them over established voice actors even if said actor is already the iconic, established actor for that character and the screen actor has little to no experience acting in a recording booth.I think throwing out the voice cast was such a trash move.
Frank Welker has been the voice of Fred for over 50 years and now it's Zac Efron for this movie. Lol. Fuck off.
I think it kind of worked out because shaggy and daphne barely ever interacted before it. They should have also done a Fred and Velma spinoff too.No idea, but they probably just felt they were unnecessary since Fred is easily the blandest of the five outside some select series (namely A Pup Named and Mystery Inc.) and Velma wasn't "hot" like Daphne (and even she wasn't present in some of the series preceding 13 Ghosts), while Shag and Scoob were the obvious heart of the franchise and Scrappy was actually pretty popular back when he was first introduced.
Boo Brothers and Ghoul School came before this
Unfortunately that's just how shit rolls in Hollywood. Studios think that the name of a known screen actor will boost the BO of their animated kids movie, and will always choose them over established voice actors even if said actor is already the iconic, established actor for that character and the screen actor has little to no experience acting in a recording booth.
What happened to him?From what happened with Peter Cullen, I've learned American industry doesn't really value their voice actors.
This is the second animated movie to go straight-to-streaming.
Given that last year wasn't very hospitable to non-Disney/Pixar animated movies, it's probably going to be the biggest category of films to skip theaters.
You haven't seen the trailer? They sound like normal people. Normies... they soundl ike normies.
It's like poetry. It rhymes.Direct-to-video has been Scooby Doo's real home ever since Kids' WB! folded, so it's only fitting.
Or, there didn't want to keep pushing this back in hopes of theaters opening soon
Its kinda funny because they usually do 2 DTVs a year but only did 1 this year because of the theatrical release.Direct-to-video has been Scooby Doo's real home ever since Kids' WB! folded, so it's only fitting.
So the entire fucking film was basically an attempt to make a cinematic universe out of the Hannah-Barbara cartoons. Jesus H...
13 GhostsAt what point did Scooby Doo switch from being a show about fraudulent paranormal activity to being a show about real honest-to-god ghosts and monsters? As a kid it seemed like every story was about some phony haunting, but when I get glimpses of it now the show very much seems to involve them actually battling monsters and demons and stuff.
Wow, thanks for the background information. That is actually pretty interesting that they have tried to retcon previous material. It seems like there's really not much point in doing that since there's clearly all kinds of chronology problems across the franchise that don't support an "it's all canon" viewpoint.Like mentioned above 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo (1985). Several of the movies following that series also had real monsters, like Ghoul School and the relectant Werewolf. The best one of this is probably Zombie Island (1998), although it's written like it's the first time they're dealing with the supernatural.
Most of the recent animated content still is focused on fake monsters though. In fact, some of the recent animated movies go back and retcon previous series and movies that dealt with supernatural threats into being ambiguous or outright fake - there are recent sequels to 13 Ghosts and Zombie Island that do just that.
Does the most recent interation of the show (Scooby Doo And Guess Who) just have mysteries, or are there real supernatural threats?
Boo Brothers and Ghoul School13 Ghosts
Reluctant Werewolf
Zombie Island
Witch's Ghost
Alien Invaders
Scooby Doo - live action movie
Mystery Incorporated - mostly masks but the main plot was supernatural
The 2 best Scooby Doo things ever(Mystery Incorporated, Zombie Island) had real Supernatural elements.
So many people keep saying Return to Zombie island undid the original, in the movie its literally just Velma in denial about supernatural elements and because Mystery Inc is retired she thinks its "the one that got away"Like mentioned above 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo (1985). Several of the movies following that series also had real monsters, like Ghoul School and the relectant Werewolf. The best one of this is probably Zombie Island (1998), although it's written like it's the first time they're dealing with the supernatural.
Most of the recent animated content still is focused on fake monsters though. In fact, some of the recent animated movies go back and retcon previous series and movies that dealt with supernatural threats into being ambiguous or outright fake - there are recent sequels to 13 Ghosts and Zombie Island that do just that.
You're seeing kids movies going this route because kids movies have lots of merchandising and tie-ins associated with them. There's a ton of stuff that was all laser-coordinated to hit around the time the film was supposed to hit theaters; Delaying the movie is one thing, but hitting the brakes on all the ancillary marketing would have been impossible without many months of lead time.Didn't Trolls 2 do very well? With millions of kids stuck at home, this feels like a better idea than waiting for theaters to reopen than having all those postponed movies being released at once and clients not necessarely feeling safe.
Yeah, kinda surprised people don't like itHonestly that leaked plot sounds awesome lol I'll be watching it for sure.
I wonder why none of the superhero movies are getting a digital release. Certainly they also have pretty extensive merchandising tie-ins.You're seeing kids movies going this route because kids movies have lots of merchandising and tie-ins associated with them. There's a ton of stuff that was all laser-coordinated to hit around the time the film was supposed to hit theaters; Delaying the movie is one thing, but hitting the brakes on all the ancillary marketing would have been impossible without many months of lead time.
I'm really surprised people are taking a cynical /co/ users recollection of test screening at face value. Like even if the plot is accurate, there's definitely a difference between seeing a summary vs actually watching the movie. Like, Warner Animation Group might not be lighting the box office on fire but they're outings so far have been decent at worse.
Not to the same level. For example black widow has a LEGO set coming but it's only one and it's not any different than the main LEGO marvel line. It's also a focused wave in their action figure line but again it's still comic book so it's not as big an issue either. Whereas these kids movies have more independent linesI wonder why none of the superhero movies are getting a digital release. Certainly they also have pretty extensive merchandising tie-ins.
Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm kinda surprised Black Widow got pushed for that reason. There's a bunch of figures for that showing up at retail now, which are probably going to limp along with nobody having seen the movie.I wonder why none of the superhero movies are getting a digital release. Certainly they also have pretty extensive merchandising tie-ins.
You're seeing kids movies going this route because kids movies have lots of merchandising and tie-ins associated with them. There's a ton of stuff that was all laser-coordinated to hit around the time the film was supposed to hit theaters; Delaying the movie is one thing, but hitting the brakes on all the ancillary marketing would have been impossible without many months of lead time.
So either they have a bunch of merchandise on shelves that ends up being clearanced out before anyone has seen the actual movie, or they send it to streaming and salvage it as best they can.
Those films having a few months more lead time to stop or delay things from getting to stores and to negotiate moving deals around. Maybe not all of it, but enough that it's not all a total loss.I dunno man, a lot of the big hitters that were due soon have been moved, Soul is in November now taking Raya's slot, Minions 2 moved to 2021, Peter Rabbit 2 moved all the way to January, that ones the most bizarre to me, all the merch was basically there, and honestly, that film needs an Easter Release. Why you moving it from Easter to JANUARY of all months.
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