Spoilers: It's not going to do well, between fan apathy for these movies, stupid retcons that make no sense, and JK Rowling's TERFdom.
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Warner Bros is waiting to see how Fantastic Beasts 3 performs before greenlighting 4th and 5th films
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This would be a perfect HBO show. Multiple school years, one overarching villain not on Voldemorts scale or new villain/conflict every season.
Remember when the script leaked like a year ago? That was a fun time.
I will always love the second movie for giving me the moment of "… that wasnt the Titanic, was it?" I don't think I could have dreamed up something as insane on acid. It truly and masterfully made me leave my body.
I will always love the second movie for giving me the moment of "… that wasnt the Titanic, was it?" I don't think I could have dreamed up something as insane on acid. It truly and masterfully made me leave my body.
the main character and the title of the film series were the names of a text book and its author, and instead of making a series of fun little adventure movies about chasing magical beasts or animal preservation they decided the text book author should be a central player in Wizard World War II (which was technically Wizard World War 1 which itself was largely an offhand reference about what the Wizards were doing during the 1940s).
setting aside rowling being an increasingly loud absolute shithead (which shouldn't really be set aside because it's an integral part of all this), it's actually genuinely impressive how badly they've handled the harry potter extended universe
Oh yeah, that would do mega money. Surprised HBO hasn't gotten on that already
I don't like wishing ill on any person's work (and jobs), even when originating from a monster like Rowling, as they're produced by hundreds of normally, hopefully non-monstrous people.
But in this case, seriously, fuck JK Rowling. I grew up poring over the HP series and films and it honestly makes me feel kind of gross. Can't say I'd be upset seeing this one bomb hard.
But in this case, seriously, fuck JK Rowling. I grew up poring over the HP series and films and it honestly makes me feel kind of gross. Can't say I'd be upset seeing this one bomb hard.
The first one was honestly kind of decent and fun. The created a very fun charachter with Newt. But they ended up completely and absolutely shitting the bed with the second one. That might have been the worst big budget film I've seen in the cinemas. Absolutely god awful. Unfortunately I also had the displeasure to watch the third one, it's not as bad as the second one but it's still absolutely baffling they managed to release yet another piece of shit.
The world would be a better place if those last two will be canceled.
The world would be a better place if those last two will be canceled.
I didn't even get that from this movie. It really felt like such a detour just to move the plot an inch forward. Jude Law does a good job as Dumbledore and while the movie tries to focus on him it feels like it's still dragging a suitcase full of baggage from the previous movies (pun intended). Too many threads and they move no where interesting.
Lol wut
I will probably never watch any of those so... how the hell does that tie in with "Fantastic Beasts"?
I do wonder if they will try rebooting the OG HP at some point.
I would have preferred the tantric sex over that 😭
JK Rowling is a hack, so I guess I'm not surprised that many of these things just don't work at all. I feel like if a more competent writer had been behind the wheel, things could have worked better.
That is a real shame about Newt and everybody else.
So lame.
I've always thought any remake would do better as an HBO series. There is so much more in the books that the movies leave out.
They try and shoehorn a magical creature into the plot of the movies to make it "fit". The third movie involves a magical creature that is part of the villains ridiculous and convoluted plan.
because apparently the creature will bow down to whoever is going to be the next leader of the wizard community.
Yes it's as stupid as it sounds and gets even stupider
I feel like now would had been a perfect time for a talented creative team who has or was working on a similar concept, to come in with their own dueling film (series). Would had been a perfect way to completely steal FB's/JKR's/Yates' thunder (…what little of it there was, based on how this film is predicted to perform) and show reviewers and audiences alike, this is how you make a film that actually delivers on such a premise. (And without the baggage of Rowling's association + creative input to boot.)
Yeah when they do a reboot they should do that , give it Game of thrones treatment (minus the last two seasons treatment lol)
Totally agree. Sort of what the first few HP books actually were with a villain/conflict each school year/book.
Each season is a year or two of school for the kids with a new conflict. Set it after HP books with a new cast of kids. Easy and would probably print money if you ask me. Doesn't need to have a giant Voldemort baddie overarching the series.
I mean, I think this is what Disney is trying to accomplish with the Percy Jackson D+ series.
What you want is The Magicians TV series, it was magical
And it seems like such an obvious thing to do, doesn't it? In a way, I'm glad they haven't, though. I'm not really interested in anything HP related until Rowling is no longer involved.
The books are written already so they wouldn't even run into that problem.
Aging of the kids would be the real issue.
Box office tracking
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Looking at a 40 million debut, down from the previous films $62 million.
variety.com
Box Office: ‘Fantastic Beasts 3’ Aims for $40 Million Domestic Debut
"Fantastic Beasts 3" will duel against "Sonic the Hedgehog 2" to lead domestic box office charts.
variety.com
God, imagine if Sonic beats FB's OW in its second week.
I mean, it probably won't and Beasts needs to do far more than just that to be considered a success, but man.
I mean, it probably won't and Beasts needs to do far more than just that to be considered a success, but man.
It barely beat Morbius first week, lolLooking at a 40 million debut, down from the previous films $62 million.
Box Office: ‘Fantastic Beasts 3’ Aims for $40 Million Domestic Debut
"Fantastic Beasts 3" will duel against "Sonic the Hedgehog 2" to lead domestic box office charts.
Looking at a 40 million debut, down from the previous films $62 million.
Box Office: ‘Fantastic Beasts 3’ Aims for $40 Million Domestic Debut
"Fantastic Beasts 3" will duel against "Sonic the Hedgehog 2" to lead domestic box office charts.
OOF.
Yeah, there was no recovery from FB2.
The next logical step WB will take is try to Force Awakens that shit. Which will be hilarious given how reviled Cursed Child is.
The correct course of action is take a break, try to take the IP from Rowling and focus on TV. They'll do none of those.
If this 40 number holds (or goes lower), Sonic 2's opening weekend will have been almost double that, lol.
Looking at a 40 million debut, down from the previous films $62 million.
Box Office: ‘Fantastic Beasts 3’ Aims for $40 Million Domestic Debut
"Fantastic Beasts 3" will duel against "Sonic the Hedgehog 2" to lead domestic box office charts.
Literally impossible, and they'd be fools to try and buy it. She was, rightfully or wrongfully, very clever and retained complete ownership, she'll never relinquish it.
My theory is that after the final HP movie came out Warner Bros went to JK Rowling begged her to come up with something new they could film to bring in the $$$$ and she came up with some spinoff based off of Fantastic Beasts. Nobody really wanted to or cared about making these movies except for $$$ and it shows in the haphazard way they are just making jumping from plotline to plotline as they go.
We don't know what the deal is with WB, but she definitely doesn't have full ownership over it. The 1st page of all new edition's clearly states "harry potter characters names and related indicia are copyright and trademark of warner bros". No mention of Rowling.
They could take it from her if they really wanted.
That would certainly be an interesting court case to watch play out, for sure.
I guess Rowling might be up for selling if WB offered enough cash, but I don't think I'd call that a happy resolution.
Is there another book series about the similar concept of Fantastic Beasts that could be adapted? They'd also need a big budget.
As opposed to the pr chaos of Rowling being a TERF piece of shit?
Seriously. at this point their best bet is to fuel the George Lucas-y flames of a "FB was her fault, she's out of touch with the fans and her own work" narrative and then use that outsider pressure for whatever clause in the agreement lets them ditch her on grounds of her weakening the IP, even if it includes paying her.
That way you get her out of the way and no longer deal with her TERF shit while letting them do the whole "Here's HP just the way you remember" Force Awakens bullshit in a couple of years after putting the thing on ice.
If they didn't write out a way to ditch her no matter how unlikely in the original agreement then they're the biggest idiots.
Sadly most people don't care about trans rights. A lot of people care about Harry Potter and a lot of people would view it more as a evil corporation trying to steal his poor woman's life's work because of Money and a CANCEL CULTURE!!!
Like I said, not if WB itself does to JK what Disney did in 2015 to George Lucas.
Just straight up feed the narrative that her input sucks now and we're better without her. Because it does.
You're absolutely right on people being selfish shits tho.