Wait, wasn't this Depp/Heard nonsense already in progress when he was announced for the second film?
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Warner Bros. ‘freaking out’ Depp suit will harm Harry Potter films
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I would accept literally any excuse.
"Grindewald decided to use a mask all the time" fine by me.
I don't see much negativity for the movie online or positivity, honestly, I never see anyone talk about it. It's a Harry Potter movie and it stayed in the general public's conscious for as long as your average movie.
I didn't even realize it had came out until about 2 weeks later.
If it wasn't for the RT thread that was on ERA, I would not know if people liked it or not.
The complexity of his personal problems are why you don't make him a central piece of the advertising. You do that and you are begging for sites to run stories about how problematic it is for you to have him in the movie at all ; let alone front and center for the advertising campaign.
Or the next movie. Yates has proven to be something of a hack; a one-trick pony with his best work far behind him.
The franchise is in desperate need of new creative/directorial blood.
The alternate covers were so adult readers wouldn't be embarrassed reading children's books in public.
Oh, I agree.
However Depp is still a very beloved person, who has a serious fanbase behind him defending him day and night. Having that said, given all the details we have, it seems both him and wife were victims and abusers, so I dunno where to stand tbh.
His direction wasnt really the Problem with Crimes and he proved that he can pull off amazing movies with the right script. 7, 7-2, Fantastic Beasts all have some great Action and setpieces. The whole suitcase scene in FB especially was beautifully put to Film.
It's such a significant downgrade too, I couldn't believe they decided to go through with it. Farrell was great and I'm at least happy he got to dodge that pile of shit that is Fantastic Beasts 2.
No sympathy. As others have said, WB seems to be the only ones that are surprised with how this is playing out. Everyone else saw it from a mile away.
The first FB was fine but, between Depp and CoM, WB has enough reason to just cancel this series. It's going nowhere and posses none of the magic of the original movies (and I'm not even a huge fan of them).
The first FB was fine but, between Depp and CoM, WB has enough reason to just cancel this series. It's going nowhere and posses none of the magic of the original movies (and I'm not even a huge fan of them).
I'd been under the impression that the Fantastic Beasts series has done plenty on its own to harm the Harry Potter films, not sure why they insisted on Johnny Depp when he hasn't been demonstrated to be a box office draw in years. Either way, going from plans to shoot this summer to fall of next year throws a massive wrench in the works for an underwhelming spin-off franchise that they want two more films from after this third one.
Fairly depressed about the state of HP, lately...
This is my favourite film/book series.
I don't expect greatness, but each film should be more thoughtfully produced.
This is my favourite film/book series.
I don't expect greatness, but each film should be more thoughtfully produced.
It's a film about magic where the character already concealed his identity once.
Plot twist: his depp face wasn't his real one all this time! He actually looks like "insert new actor here"!
Profit.
Plot twist: his depp face wasn't his real one all this time! He actually looks like "insert new actor here"!
Profit.
They're both accusing each other of violence but, since Depp has said he has proof of what she did to him and even put some of it online, Heard has stepped up her accusations.
The hypocrisy of course is that everyone calling for Depp to get fired from these movies isn't exactly calling for Heard to be fired from Aquaman too. Surely if they're both violent domestic abusers, neither should get lucrative movie contracts?
Yup, and it was known that Depp is a nightmare to work with.
WB played themselves.
almost like JK Rowling is a shitty person blinded by her own immense wealth and privilege, imagine that
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It happened https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/12/entertainment/amber-heard-johnny-depp-abuse/index.html
Plus Depp is always drunk at work
After that last shit show movie, they can contrive a reason why he looks and sounds different when they recast.
I think it is a shit storm of factors and someone might just be wanting to save their neck by pointing at Depp. They hired him knowing he been like this for a almost 2 decades. He is at the top of the "worse return on investment " list on the regular. They need someone to come in with a clear vision for the brand.
I legitimately cannot think of one reason why they'd tie themselves to Depp of all people. This is all on Rowling/WB. Pick anyone else and you're fine.
Crimes of Grindelwald already damaged these prequels beyond repair. The plotline was a mess, characters were either retconned or made less interesting, and the movie was filled with soap opera style twists.
I don't know a single Harry Potter fan that liked the film. It's only going to be diminishing returns from here on out.
I don't know a single Harry Potter fan that liked the film. It's only going to be diminishing returns from here on out.
Just let the damn franchise rest for 5-10 years. Surely, Rowling isn't hurting for money...
They pretty much hid him away during marketing for the last film and went to great lengths to not mention his character and prompt debate, but how realistic its going to be to continue to marginalise a major character in that way throughout all your marketing for another two films I don't know.
Plus one for bringing Farrell back, its was such a downer at the end of the first movie when they did the reveal. I actually believe that in the original script it wasn't Grindelwald at all but that it was tacked on once they pivoted away from the fantastic beasts angle that they started with and added the extra movies.
That was me and my partner, we just didn't bother going and stil haven't seen it, and we've been to the studio tour 3 times! WB need to soft reboot the series with the next entry or its going to be a box office disaster by part 4, the domestic US boxoffice for the last one was already disappointing and that usually gives an indication of whats going to happen worldwide in the future for a film series unless big changes are made.
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They could finish this story in the next movie, wait one year or two and make a TV show for the Warner upcoming streaming service.
Like others have said, the movie quality is doing way more harm than whoever stars in it. I still don't understand why these movies are called Fantastic Beasts, when the "main" plot of them have zero to do with them at all. Newt's book has absolutely zero to do with anything, and the beasts only come into play for the occasional action scene.
Question about the two movies:
Question about the two movies:
In the first movie, why is the court was ready and immediately willing to execute Newt for his relatively small crimes, but evil, mass murdering Grindelwald keeps getting jail time?
He really did. You could actually picture him being able to intimidate when needed, but also be charming enough to turn people to his side. Depp comes flouncing in with that "he's clearly a villain" look and doing the same old performance we've seen from him before...it's goofy, even with the silver tongue spell thingy, or whatever it was he had in the last movie. Farrell was so much better in his scenes. He came off as an actual person, not a daft cartoon character.