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Wario64 woke up and chose violence lol (Lost Odyssey is on sale for $6.24 on Xbox Live Gold)
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Great game but it's unfortunate we didn't get a patch for it. I don't agree with the FF meme but it would have been cool to see FF take a direction like this for one entry
I wanted a big turn based JRPG after persona 4, and there was nothing for my PS3. I initially bought a 360 basically just for this game.
The Last Remnant, maybe? I dunno, I enjoyed it back when it was like the only Square Enix game on Steam.
Yeah, but it's still alright on Series X|S as you get Auto HDR, faster loading 16xAF, and stable to locked 30fps.
The main thing is it still feels like a AAA JRPG of the seventh generation consoles, which were few and far between.
I see all the takes on LO vs FFXIII and none of them are too wrong.
FFXIII is a pure numbered FF in that it tries to push forward with new systems, much better productions values and generally speaking a better package.
But the combat doesn't work very well, characters are meh and story/worldbuilding are ridiculously overdone. With how the game plays, I'm not sure I'd ever replay it (I tried just last year...)
Lost Odyssey is very much a throwback to the days of olde, it offers little originality. It's simply rather well done, with strong direction, music, a classic but well done story and world.
Some parts are not as strong as what SE can offer (designs, production values) and the game suffers immensely - just as much as it benefits - from the Thousand Years of Dreams, because they are that much better written and more interesting than the actual game, creating some insane whiplash.
I have much better memories of LO and I'd rather replay that, but I can see all the ways in which FFXIII exceeds it.
FFXIII is a pure numbered FF in that it tries to push forward with new systems, much better productions values and generally speaking a better package.
But the combat doesn't work very well, characters are meh and story/worldbuilding are ridiculously overdone. With how the game plays, I'm not sure I'd ever replay it (I tried just last year...)
Lost Odyssey is very much a throwback to the days of olde, it offers little originality. It's simply rather well done, with strong direction, music, a classic but well done story and world.
Some parts are not as strong as what SE can offer (designs, production values) and the game suffers immensely - just as much as it benefits - from the Thousand Years of Dreams, because they are that much better written and more interesting than the actual game, creating some insane whiplash.
I have much better memories of LO and I'd rather replay that, but I can see all the ways in which FFXIII exceeds it.
Just noticed this tweet! It's super cool — and kind of surreal — to see Wario64 tweeting one of my what-if images, but I'm glad more people are enjoying it :D
This can never be the "real FFXIII", because whatever way it turns out, FF always pushes boundaries to try new things. That's the essence of the series. You may hate FFXIII, but it did its own thing. And you may love LO, but it's very much a "classic RPG" that doesn't really try anything with the formula. Even the active input during attacks, which was a cool feature, already existed in FFVIII.
Personally, I enjoyed LO, but felt it was a bit boring and eventually dropped it. I tried it again a while ago and couldn't get past the first boss, the combat was too tedious and I simply couldn't be bothered. Best part of the game were definitely the dreams and I enjoyed all the ones I got to unlock in my first playthrough. If one day we get a 360 emulator with a fast forward option, I could consider it.
Personally, I enjoyed LO, but felt it was a bit boring and eventually dropped it. I tried it again a while ago and couldn't get past the first boss, the combat was too tedious and I simply couldn't be bothered. Best part of the game were definitely the dreams and I enjoyed all the ones I got to unlock in my first playthrough. If one day we get a 360 emulator with a fast forward option, I could consider it.
Lost Odyssey is a game I beat, but really struggled to enjoy. The really slow pace of combat, the 'queuing' up of turns rather than just selecting them as they come up, the terrible characters (I think Jansen was the only guy I dug in it, hated the Rugrats kids, hated the wife character, Seth was ok, Kaim was a wet noodle, gold armour guy was unbearable), awful villain and story.
The stuff that stood out was the excellent music and the short stories that pop up now and then, but the short stories really felt like they were written by an entirely different writing team and none of the character development or plot progression carried with it any of the weighty themes expressed in the short stories, save one story which directly tied into some sort of plot thing I am forgetting now.
It was years later I played Nier and saw a game which actually managed to tie in text based adventure into its main story and have it enhance and be enhanced by everything around it, rather than it feeling like this completely separate compartmentalized thing
I also don't like FFXIII, but it put in the groundwork for the FFVII Remake combat system and even by itself the XIII combat was excellent. Bad game with one really high quality feature to recommend it, LO was just kinda meh throughout except for the Uemetsa score. Also like someone else said modern FF is just a series which is constantly shedding its skin trying new things, so I never really saw the 'real FFXIII' thing either. More like it felt like an attempt at aping FFX, but FFX was a lot better.
I dunno, this game always gets brought up around FFXIII and being the 'real FF' but it kinda just seems like a bitter pissing contest between two pretty underwhelming JRPGs during a pretty bad era for JRPG aside from Atlus stuff
The stuff that stood out was the excellent music and the short stories that pop up now and then, but the short stories really felt like they were written by an entirely different writing team and none of the character development or plot progression carried with it any of the weighty themes expressed in the short stories, save one story which directly tied into some sort of plot thing I am forgetting now.
It was years later I played Nier and saw a game which actually managed to tie in text based adventure into its main story and have it enhance and be enhanced by everything around it, rather than it feeling like this completely separate compartmentalized thing
I also don't like FFXIII, but it put in the groundwork for the FFVII Remake combat system and even by itself the XIII combat was excellent. Bad game with one really high quality feature to recommend it, LO was just kinda meh throughout except for the Uemetsa score. Also like someone else said modern FF is just a series which is constantly shedding its skin trying new things, so I never really saw the 'real FFXIII' thing either. More like it felt like an attempt at aping FFX, but FFX was a lot better.
I dunno, this game always gets brought up around FFXIII and being the 'real FF' but it kinda just seems like a bitter pissing contest between two pretty underwhelming JRPGs during a pretty bad era for JRPG aside from Atlus stuff
Finally. Someone said it.
Magna Carta 2 is one of the most overlooked games of that generation.
Nope, it does seem to run mostly fine in Xenia at least (according to the github issue).
Beat it when it was released, played it again last year when I picked up a series x, don't remember where I left off though lol.
I was following a guide this time, because my first time through I was missing a chest or two. Bullshit achievement stopped me from getting plat on it lol.
I was following a guide this time, because my first time through I was missing a chest or two. Bullshit achievement stopped me from getting plat on it lol.
They were written by a professional writer who knew the broad strokes of Kaim's personality but Kaim's convenient beginning-of-the-game amnesia removes that version of the character from the bulk of the story, which really sucks.
Is there a single other soul out there who thinks both FFXIII and LO are terrible games? One for being completely by the numbers, the other for thinking people needed fucking 40 hours of tutorial for a so-so combat system.
I replayed it this year and it's still a good game but I still like 13 way more. The combat at least eventually becomes good in 13. LO just is what it is from the first hour all the way through
I'm not a JRPG or a Turn based person at all. FF 13 is one of 2 games where I fell asleep playing. And Penny Arcade and costume quest are the only Turn Based games I played all the way through.
So far I find Lost a odyssey really engaging. I think the way this world is setup and the characters are keeping me engaged. The Skill and GC system are pretty interesting to my novice mind.
So far I find Lost a odyssey really engaging. I think the way this world is setup and the characters are keeping me engaged. The Skill and GC system are pretty interesting to my novice mind.
God, the first boss. I forgot how unholy busted it was. How the hell did I beat this game the first time around?
Downloaded the double pack and dungeon dlc with wife profile hoping my account can access it. Not sure? Store still says I can buy it, anyway too tell?