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So here's the rumored BT Stuff (spoilered in case people don't want to see it), these were listed by Valrak (and right now I think Valrak is GW's best hypeman, so they leak stuff to him on purpose ).
Primaris Hellbrecht (still has one metal arm - helmeted and unhelmeted version)
Primaris Grimaldus
Primaris Emperor's Champion
Primaris Castellan
Primaris Ancient
Primaris Sword Brethren
Primaris Crusader Squad
Vehicle Upgrade Sprue
Primaris Grimaldus
Primaris Emperor's Champion
Primaris Castellan
Primaris Ancient
Primaris Sword Brethren
Primaris Crusader Squad
Vehicle Upgrade Sprue
The new Kill Team box certainly has gotten my attention as someone who is considering dipping his toe into the hobby.
I wonder if part of why Marines get so much attention is because they have so many deliberately distinct subfactions which means that more players can find something to like in the Space Marine line.
IIRC they've got stats showing exactly that. For a lot of people, different marine chapters are almost completely different factions, not just part of undifferentiated "space marines".
Then what would happen if they started introducing that kind of variety to the other factions? If the themes and lore of the different Craftworlds were as distinct as the Black Templars to the Ultramarines to the Blood Angels?
You could argue that they're doing this with the Beast Snaggas and Speed Freakz.
And I just don't see it. I think Imp guard with all its regiments maybe, but look at forge world, most popular range is 30k and the 18 legions.
Black Templar rumors
rumors are
Primaris Helbrecht
Primaris Grimaldus
Primaris Emperors champion
BT specific Primaris Ancient (new ind. char or maybe a generic )
Primaris Castellan ( Lieutenant )
New Vehicle upgrade kit ( additional melter were mentioned)
New Primaris Sword Brethren
New Primaris Crusader squad (yes, new neophyte models)
Vows are there instead of a super doctrine
rumors are
Primaris Helbrecht
Primaris Grimaldus
Primaris Emperors champion
BT specific Primaris Ancient (new ind. char or maybe a generic )
Primaris Castellan ( Lieutenant )
New Vehicle upgrade kit ( additional melter were mentioned)
New Primaris Sword Brethren
New Primaris Crusader squad (yes, new neophyte models)
Vows are there instead of a super doctrine
In all fairness, he is standing on a rock.
Look at the Itty bitty firstborn, posin' on a box to make him look big!
Nah, but it's a very cool model.
Emperor preserve us. The seal is broken.
I had been looking for it for ages. As it was the game that originally got me into tactics and 40k both. I found it… but :(
Emperor preserve us. The seal is broken.
I had been looking for it for ages. As it was the game that originally got me into tactics and 40k both. I found it… but :(
Time to visit GOG then :P
To be fair, the old Grey Knight sculpts are not only "short" but they've also got that squatting pose that a tonne of Games Workshop models had that made them look super short.
There's just been a general size increase in all of Games Workshop's models. The Necromunda models, for example, are astronomically huge compared to other guardsmen despite being theoretically the same scale.
From what we've seen of the stats so far. I think this is a given (Kriegers having 7 wounds, orks having 14 wounds).
Probably not (with a caveat), both orcs and imp guard are horde armies and are both pretty expensive to play in 40k proper. However, they should be more than viable in kill team. I would suggest going SMALL when diving into 40k so kill team works, but if you're doing this to play say 500 points (combat patrol in 40k) I would advice cheaper armies.
Preorder date is probably in August with the set being released a week after, with around $200 usd as the price.
Pretty sure pre order is next week? But yeah it'll be a bit pricey.
Edit: probably getting confused with the Ork box.
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Thanks! Yeah I was thinking this is something that is self contained so maybe a better entry point as in play this for a while then get into WH40K proper? Or is there something out there better for this in general?
Looks like it will. Alternating activations, action points, different movement and range rules, wounds, etc.
One thing i like about Warcry too is that i didn't have to fuss with customizing a Warband. Hopefully jumping into a match of the new Kill Team can be quick and easy if you want.
Honestly, this works, and if you ever get to itch to go to 40k proper, you can collect a combat patrol army of your choice (or read the various start competing articles like goonhammer has).
Damn those kill team models and new giant squig models look so damn good. GW knocking it out of the park this round.
Not really, people have been clamoring for that exact change since Warcry came out. Especially since the same team took what they learned from KT and made a better version of the same kind of game.
So do we know yet if Grey Knights are getting Primarisized? Wonder what will be the equivalent to their terminator units...
Crowe is the only unit they're probably getting this refresh, and he is not getting primarized supposedly(does not have the key word primaris). He's mostly getting upscaled just like the chaos marine refresh.
Hm, wonder what the in-universe explanation for GK not getting the Primaris treatment will be.
"They don't fuckin' trust it" is my bet. Even as Imperial institutions go, the Grey Knights are next-level paranoid and secretive.
Yeah don't the Grey Knights have special gene seed engineered directly from the Emperor's anyway? They're not gonna let Cawl get within a mile of that.
I don't think it's been confirmed, only presented as a rumour in the lore.
GW have shown what the new unit datacards look like in Kill Team:
Initial thoughts are this looks solid. I like their is space for special rules for individual units (something I feel Warcry lacks) and it looks like it is in a nice balance of accessible but not make it overly simplistic. Although still got a lot of questions like what the DF stat means mechanically, what the GA stat is (some kind of points value?) and how melee actually works. Interesting to see how it shakes out later in the week.
Initial thoughts are this looks solid. I like their is space for special rules for individual units (something I feel Warcry lacks) and it looks like it is in a nice balance of accessible but not make it overly simplistic. Although still got a lot of questions like what the DF stat means mechanically, what the GA stat is (some kind of points value?) and how melee actually works. Interesting to see how it shakes out later in the week.
Pretty sure DF is defence which is the opposeses the weapons attack roll. If is is a ranged attack then the save will come into play.
GA could be group allowance?
GA could be group allowance?
I don't care about the system itself, the devices to measure are.....odd
Yeah, I... do not understand those measuring tools, lol. What side do you measure from for each symbol?
I'm pretty sure that the description is already out and it's another "Primaris must prove themselves to their chapter" novel. Might end up skipping.
They really need to show off how they use it, so far I don't see why I wouldn't still just use a measuring tape lol
As far as I can see, if the character is 3o then it's 3 times the o side of the measuring thingy, and o represents 2 inches…. but there's a 6 inch ruler in the box as well so…
Man just use a tape measure already.
Man just use a tape measure already.
Kill Team's rules for ranged combat: