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Matttimeo

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Oct 26, 2017
762
I do wonder what will happen to my cherished Death Guard once they discontinue Dark Imperium. It's still currently the only way to get the Lord of Contagion, Plaguecaster and Blightbringer models (all mounted on the same sprue I believe). I'm sure they will be sold in a new form eventually (perhaps when DG gets their codex push in 9th) but if their is an extended period of time when you can't acquire these backbone units then that is more then a little annoying for new DG players.
 

Serule

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Oct 25, 2017
1,766
I do wonder what will happen to my cherished Death Guard once they discontinue Dark Imperium. It's still currently the only way to get the Lord of Contagion, Plaguecaster and Blightbringer models (all mounted on the same sprue I believe). I'm sure they will be sold in a new form eventually (perhaps when DG gets their codex push in 9th) but if their is an extended period of time when you can't acquire these backbone units then that is more then a little annoying for new DG players.

Within a very short time after the new box launches, they will release these guys in a box as "Start Collecting: Death Guard". They already did this with the Shadowspear box and also the Age of Sigmar 1.0 box.
 

Bombless

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Oct 25, 2017
3,580
I do wonder what will happen to my cherished Death Guard once they discontinue Dark Imperium. It's still currently the only way to get the Lord of Contagion, Plaguecaster and Blightbringer models (all mounted on the same sprue I believe). I'm sure they will be sold in a new form eventually (perhaps when DG gets their codex push in 9th) but if their is an extended period of time when you can't acquire these backbone units then that is more then a little annoying for new DG players.
Within a very short time after the new box launches, they will release these guys in a box as "Start Collecting: Death Guard". They already did this with the Shadowspear box and also the Age of Sigmar 1.0 box.

There's also the Conquest packs that could be "acquired" if they're not available in your country.
 
Oct 26, 2017
12,125
monsters and tanks can shoot even when in combat, * plus monsters can potential do more as there cqc is a little different...

RIPTIDES ARE MONSTERS!!!!!!

GHAZ

GHAZ IS A MONSTER

MUAHAHAH
 

Siggy-P

Avenger
Mar 18, 2018
11,865
Stealing this from dakka dakka. Obviously many of you saw the stream but some context for those of us who didn't:

Some news from the twitch streaming:

Everybody hits on 6´s
Capped modifiers
Capped CP (everybody has the same amount)
Veichles and monsters can fight second floors as Titatic
Monsters can shoot in CC as tanks


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also

Terrain block LOS (obscuring is gonna be a thing: terrain have a footprint)
Mininum terrain amount implemented.
NO alternate activation.
1 CP for having units in DS.
They can come from different from different table edges as the game progresses.
Overwatch is gonna change (helping CC armies)


Some much needed changes here. While I have a primarily shooty army (7 tanks mother truckers!), it is dissapointing that in 8th the game is won more by the loadouts of your list than how you play.
 

Drax

Oregon tag
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,078
hmm, i'm wondering if those assault intercessors are actually fast attack and not troops now.
 

Drax

Oregon tag
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Oct 25, 2017
5,078
Probably.

Im not putting my hopes in. Anything.


I've yet to really see a primaris unit I really must have

outriders are perfect for scars and ravenwing. bladeguard are perfect for templars. Assault intercessors are themey for wolves and templars(but will require gooo amount of bashing) and potentially angels.

And who knows, they can potentailly stupid strong like some of the vanguard wave was or completely useless.
 

Cvie

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,258
Q30: Will players still need to include Troops?

Pete - You will need to "in the same way you do now", just lots more flexibility.

Stu - Depends on what detachments you use. You don't "have" to include Troops. Detachments don't generate CP anymore.


Q31: How will changes to CP affect army composition?

Pete - You will choose the army you want to take instead of the army you have to take.

Stu - Loads more freedom to build the army you want to. No more CP batteries. You want models and units that do cool things, not units you are required to take. People who want a particular faction will have a more level playing field.



this is cool.

sounds like you will still have you min requirements for a detachment, but being able to take patrol detachments instead of battalions opens up alot more flexibilty in what you can take.

I'm wondering if there will be any other bonus for units in a detachment, seems like they're moving away from that
 

Siggy-P

Avenger
Mar 18, 2018
11,865
Q30: Will players still need to include Troops?

Pete - You will need to "in the same way you do now", just lots more flexibility.

Stu - Depends on what detachments you use. You don't "have" to include Troops. Detachments don't generate CP anymore.


Q31: How will changes to CP affect army composition?

Pete - You will choose the army you want to take instead of the army you have to take.

Stu - Loads more freedom to build the army you want to. No more CP batteries. You want models and units that do cool things, not units you are required to take. People who want a particular faction will have a more level playing field.



this is cool.

sounds like you will still have you min requirements for a detachment, but being able to take patrol detachments instead of battalions opens up alot more flexibilty in what you can take.

I'm wondering if there will be any other bonus for units in a detachment, seems like they're moving away from that

I dunno about this. I feel the lack of the tax is one of the reasons that soup got so crazy this edition. You just take the most competitive stuff from a codex and leave out all the rest.
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
Looks like you can field all the new marine units as any chapter. I wonder how you'd figure the bladeguard into the Dark Angels, that only has Terminator armour as first company troops? Just paint them green and call them an elite bodyguard squad from whichever other company your officer is from? Kinda thinking of restarting my Dark Angels with this lot.

I don't mind people not fielding troops but I'd much rather they were required to at least field a 'standard building block' component of whatever the declared theme is. Like, with White Scars and Ravenwing, sure, bike squads are troops. Declare a first company army? Termies are troops. Want an Aspect Warrior army or an entire Striking Scorpion shrine? Fine, all troops. Imperial Guard tank company? Fine. But I'm not keen on 'anything goes' where there's no troops and no theme and it's just a random collection of the most powerful models. That was the best part of the detachment template to me, not the restrictions, but the guidance to make a force look roughly coherent in that a commander had clearly attached a way of handling everything rather than being given a mission to deploy to a planet for a year and arsehole lieutenant going 'yeah, fuck tactical flexibility, I'm just taking all the biggest guns and our entire high command staff!' :D

I've played against both very weak and very powerful themed lists and enjoyed both as at least it tells a story while you are playing, rather than a force that has just been number-crunched for how to abuse the intent of the rules in whatever edition.

In that sense, a variety of detachment templates, covering everything from recon forces to armoured forces, tactical all-round battlegroups and patrols to faction specialisations like Deathwing/Ravenwing only etc, actually helps the goal of increased narrative play as theme contributes to narrative. A narrative suggesting that a large mishmash marine force can take the field without a tactical/intercessor trooper with a boltgun in sight, or 'anything goes', seems to work against that.
 
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Yrch

Member
Oct 29, 2017
502
Maybe again they take some ideas from AoS where units are so called Battleline Units units you have to include.
In AoS some Units like Chaos Warriors are Battleline and depending on game size you have to include a min. Amount of Battlelines.

Different Heros and specific army builds can change a Unit type to Battleline.
A Ironjawz only Army can have Gore Gruntas as Battleline. A Nurgle Army led by a Pusgoyle Blightlord can have Pusgoyles as Battleline.

Could image something like this working in40k
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
Maybe again they take some ideas from AoS where units are so called Battleline Units units you have to include.
In AoS some Units like Chaos Warriors are Battleline and depending on game size you have to include a min. Amount of Battlelines.

Different Heros and specific army builds can change a Unit type to Battleline.
A Ironjawz only Army can have Gore Gruntas as Battleline. A Nurgle Army led by a Pusgoyle Blightlord can have Pusgoyles as Battleline.

Could image something like this working in40k
Yeah thats a more elegant way of putting what I'm talking about. Seems like they've taken the same reasoning in AoS.

In 40k terms it might also be why they changed Tactical and Intercessor squads to being badged under 'battleline' rather than 'troops' with the expansion of what a company consists of with the recent vast increase in squad types.
 

Bombless

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Oct 25, 2017
3,580
I wouldn't trust too much into what they said in that Q&A until we have the rules in our hands, lol. Let's hope that'll be sooner rather than later too.

Edit : At the very least, do not buy anything based on that for now.
 
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Gareth

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Oct 25, 2017
5,440
Norn Iron
New line of 40K 7" action figures coming from Mcfarlane Toys:
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Each of these 7" figures features 22-point Ultra Articulation, a base for easy posing, detailed weapons, squad insignia, and an awesome Warhammer 40,000-themed window box.

These are just the first two figures from what promises to be a larger line. In fact, we've got another one to show you that answers the burning question you're probably wondering right now…

Yes, you can paint your own. This initial wave also includes an unpainted Space Marine Primaris Intercessor armed with a Bolt Rifle, ready to be recruited into your favourite Chapter.

Time will tell what's next, but we're incredibly excited about this partnership already. Keep an eye out for more news as we have it, and look for the first action figures to arrive later this year.
 

Drax

Oregon tag
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,078
Wow, I really wish that had Templar or Bangel colors, but I love it none the less.
 

Twenty Three

Member
Oct 28, 2017
316
I am only really interested in the peripheral 40k universe - inquisitors, chaos cultists, death korps of krieg, rogue traders, darkmech.

Aside from Blackstone fortress, what would be the best way in collecting the weirder stuff and actually using them in a game? Necromunda?
 

Yrch

Member
Oct 29, 2017
502
I am only really interested in the peripheral 40k universe - inquisitors, chaos cultists, death korps of krieg, rogue traders, darkmech.

Aside from Blackstone fortress, what would be the best way in collecting the weirder stuff and actually using them in a game? Necromunda?

I would say besides Blackstone you could maybe get the Kill Team Rogue Trader Box and yeah Necromunda.
Necromunda leaves so much freedom in terms of storytelling and design.
If you want to play something fast paced with cool minis there is also Combat Arena and speed freeks
 

Twenty Three

Member
Oct 28, 2017
316
I would say besides Blackstone you could maybe get the Kill Team Rogue Trader Box and yeah Necromunda.
Necromunda leaves so much freedom in terms of storytelling and design.
If you want to play something fast paced with cool minis there is also Combat Arena and speed freeks
Cheers. I forgot Kill Team. Also good minatures and stuff there. I may look into Necromunda then, as I fancy something more freeform. 40k can be so restrictive.
 

StaffyManasse

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,208
On topic of the Steam sale.

I'm thinking buying BFG: Armada(s). Should I buy the first one or dive straight into the second?
 

Kharnete

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Oct 25, 2017
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The first game is a really nice adaptation of the tabletop rules to real time, but the campaign feels kinda repetitive at the end. Haven't tried the sequel, I actually wanted to ask :P
 

Yrch

Member
Oct 29, 2017
502
Haven't played the second myself but all of my friends praise it as a much better game.
Apperently you can choose you race from the beginning in the second
 

Matttimeo

Member
Oct 26, 2017
762
So I haven't played either game (won't run on my computer sadly), but I talked to a mate whos played both and he said the seconds a lot better. Said that the second had better UI, more races and a more interesting campaign structure.
 

Bombless

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Oct 25, 2017
3,580
Just bought BFG2 and the expac, thanks for the tip. I'm still going through the 1st game's campaign, but I've been playing on easiest difficulty since it gets really boring after a while, I just want the story, haha.
 

Siggy-P

Avenger
Mar 18, 2018
11,865
Started looking into the price increases that came about recently and I gotta say it's really killing any interest I have in getting more models in the future.

Like paying more for outdated models of transports or infantry units than I did for what are supposed to be my big boy tanks several years ago just really isn't appealing.

Even without the price increases, things are just way too expensive now at a base level. I was looking specifically at the genestealer stuff. Converting the Goliath's into counts-as Tauroxes would be fun and a neat thing to show off but at £35 a pop? No way.

If it's not vital to the army I ain't gettn it in future.
 

Yrch

Member
Oct 29, 2017
502
What angers me the most is the pricing for most newer characters.
I recently bought a lord of plagues, it's 12€
The new Techpriest for Admech is freaking 30€.

Its getting bonkers
 

LTWheels

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Nov 8, 2017
767
The crusade system in 9th, from what they have revealed, it looks like to me, it is inspired by the warcry campaign system.