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Warcraft III Reforged beta menu screenshots datamined
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Geeking out over these
Even more stuff posted on wowhead. Models this time.
Dat Blademaster tho
Dat Blademaster tho
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Not enough spikes? :D
For reference, in Warcraft canon, the blademasters never wore the brutish, heavy armour (that usually comes with spikes and tusks and heavy boards of wood or metal) that the rest of the orcs did. They used to stick to leather and sometimes mail armour, preferring lighter equipment compared to the rest of their brethren. (yes I do not have a life, thanks for asking)
From the tooltip description, it looks like the Troll demo missions that were left out of the prologue campaign in the full release (but released as custom campaign files in TFT) are back in. I had completely forgotten they existed. After playing the campaigns multiple times over the years, I'm not even sure I ever looked at these, just as how I played SC1 to death but never looked at Enslavers.
Wow they look really goodEven more stuff posted on wowhead. Models this time.
Dat Blademaster tho
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I'm really happy they listened to the community feedback on these units. They've added a lot more team colors. This way the units are way more recognizable in-game.
Probably my most played online game. I may continue that trend. The nostalgia hits hard. But I'm still waiting on Blizzcon to see if Blizzard does anything more self improving with Hong Kong. They really need to just come out during their open ceremony and just admit they fucked up. Wishful thinking.
Not really getting the hate for the menu since it looks kind of exactly what I expected, even if on the whole it's less... cozy? Not really sure how I'd describe it.
Models look good so I'm sure in-game everything will be fantastic, but thanks to the whole thing I refunded my preorder and probably won't be getting it for a long time.
Models look good so I'm sure in-game everything will be fantastic, but thanks to the whole thing I refunded my preorder and probably won't be getting it for a long time.
And for whatever it's worth, this is still how they're depicted in WoW, though it's somewhat rare to see blademasters since they don't really have a 1:1 parallel with any of the player classes. The few you see in Draenor and during MoP still wear very light armor.
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I hope they didn't. Would completely change the way its played.
Maybe it's possible to change this for custom games.
Characters don't look very good. They seem to be built for head-on viewing, not top-down like most RTS games. Silhouettes aren't exaggerated and the textures are a jumbled, busy mess. In the heat of battle this is gonna cause major readability issues.
I'm excited for this game but this is not Blizzard's best work. Did they outsource this?
I'm excited for this game but this is not Blizzard's best work. Did they outsource this?
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Surprised no one at Blizzard did quality control for this then.
This is RTS/MOBA art direction 101.
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Models/animation/art are partially done by Lemon Sky Studios in Malaysia.
Even more stuff posted on wowhead. Models this time.
Dat Blademaster tho
What the hell have they done to Blood Mage and Kael. Why do they have grey hair now...
Asset support was outsourced to Lemon Sky Studios in Malaysia. This is pretty normal in AAA development, though, and that studio has a large track record of supplying 3D models to projects under the EA and Activision umbrellas, including past work with Blizzard.
But some responsibility has to fall on the art direction at Blizzard here. It's not enough to just blame outsourcing and call it a day; even their famous CG cinematics involve more outsourcing than people generally acknowledge. The silhouettes and the relative noisiness of the models have been a concern since Reforged was revealed. We'll have to see it in action, though; I'm less concerned about the Orc models we've seen so far than the Human ones, as the distinctive features that identify the units at a glance still stand out.
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The proportions on the Paladin are throwing me off, but I think we already knew that last year. We need to see these in a top-down perspective to get a proper read on them, I think.
Oddly enough, this brings back memories of the lead-up to the original release of WC3 where most of the publicity shots in magazines and elsewhere were close-ups showing off the bleeding-edge 3D-ness of it all, and not reflective of what you're staring at nearly all of the time as the player. But then I remember WC3 being much more heavily promoted for its small-squad RPG elements back then, and the advance previews downplaying just how much it was still a top-down RTS at heart.
I am glad that I did not have to wait for release to get the in game (for WoW) pre-order mount. Still I love Warcraft 3 though I would have loved one and two also getting love.
Don't put your opinion down that easily. I never played Warcraft 3 but I can see immediately why that layout is better because it emphasizes building a community. It's very basic compared to modern chatrooms but it still is fundamentally better than the new design Blizzard foisted on you.
Sucks to be you guys.
Pretty important story wise. :D I hope they get the proper treatment this time, with full voice acting and polish.
From the tooltip description, it looks like the Troll demo missions that were left out of the prologue campaign in the full release (but released as custom campaign files in TFT) are back in. I had completely forgotten they existed. After playing the campaigns multiple times over the years, I'm not even sure I ever looked at these, just as how I played SC1 to death but never looked at Enslavers.
This is the second time in a few days I've seen you randomly calling people delusional
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Looks like there's still work to be done, like the Archmage's staff glowing during the use of blizzard when right now it's not. So far, they're not bad!
Christ, people cared about Blizzard trampling all over free speech for all of a day didn't they?
I'm a big Starcraft fan, but I've never actually played a Warcraft game outside of WoW. I'm pretty excited for this.
There are like 2 million threads dedicated to that issue. Can we please have one thread to reminisce about our childhood in peace FFS? Please.
It was never a leak. It's datamining from the beta client.
SuikerBrood should probably just update the thread title at this point.
What game are you talking about? Certainly not Warcraft 3, right? Did you perhaps think this was a Diablo 3 thread?
Nothing has leaked. Preparations for the release of the game are underway, and they will most likely be announcing a release date during BlizzCon.
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Yeah, I'll request a title change. Datamining isn't the same as a leak.
Some character models have sprung up over on wowhead
Horde side heroes now up
Grom looks amazing
Grom looks amazing
Memories of the lead up to WC3? Ah, this is my wheelhouse :) Many of you already know all this but for those who may not...
WarCraft III was announced at ECTS 1999 as a "Role-playing strategy" game with 6 races - they initially announced humans, orcs, and demons (the Burning Legion). The developers revealed that this was not a traditional RTS game. Bases were extremely limited. Your unit cap would be determined by your hero's "Command" stat, and indeed the camera was even locked to your heroes. You'd roam the map fighting tactical battles and recruiting allies/mercenaries rather than building up a traditional army. Gold was the only resource, etc.
This is the period where we got a bunch of low-angle screenshots of groups of units out adventuring.
In May 2000, Blizzard announced they were going back on a lot of the original vision to create something more in line with traditional WarCraft. Free-roaming camera, free building placement, etc. This was also when they announced that Undead were the fourth race and that the sixth race had been cut. This period saw the announcement of a ton of cool ideas and features that never made it into the final game. For example, Undead would have a single Necromancer instead of peon units, he could cast global spells instead of building buildings, and Undead would use corpses and the Necromancer's mana as their resources (what use do the dead have for gold and wood?). Vestiges of this design remain with the meatwagon corpse-gathering feature and the Graveyard's corpse production mechanic, even though you pretty much just use corpses for creating skeletons in the released game.
During this period they released more traditional overhead angle shots, generally without any UI but later with some UI prototypes that were a bit heavy on the hero stats.
In late November of 2000, Blizzard officially revealed that the 5th race would be the Night Elves (spoiled by a leak from a French gaming magazine). From here on out the game as we know it began to rapidly take shape. Extraneous heroes were cut and/or demoted to regular units (Orc Warlord, Human Crusader, Elven [Human] Ranger, Undead Crypt Fiend and Abomination, Night Elf Archdruid). On February 1, 2001, they announced that the Burning Legion wouldn't be playable and we were only getting 4 races. Mechanics became more traditional - Night Elves and Undead began harvesting wood/gold, flying heroes were forced to walk (Farseer, Priestess of the Moon), max hero level was reduced from 15 to 10. By summer of 2001 Blizzard was releasing screenshots that basically look like WarCraft III today.
What a time to be a WarCraft fan!
I forget, did they retcon the red orcs (Fel Orcs / Chaos Orcs) to be green now? I liked the red orcs... IIRC green orcs were chaos corrupted, with a more brown/reddish colour as their uncorrupted look, but I don't remember how the bright red orcs fit in anymore.
Anyways, the Orc heroes look way improved with the HD art, but all of the Human heroes outside of Arthas look really weird. The more realistic proportions look off. And Arthas with his Paladin hammer looks weird too, the hammer proportions look soooo off.
Anyways, the Orc heroes look way improved with the HD art, but all of the Human heroes outside of Arthas look really weird. The more realistic proportions look off. And Arthas with his Paladin hammer looks weird too, the hammer proportions look soooo off.