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Warcraft 3 Reforged "downgraded" (from Blizzcon 2018 show)
- Thread starter Chairmanchuck (另一个我)
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Yeah, this is what I'm thinking. I've been a huge Diablo fanboy in the past, I have all the art books, The Book of Caine, I even waited in line at midnight release for my huge CE of Diablo 3.
But now... zero hype. It's not just the Blitzchung debacle, but also how they handled Battle for Azeroth... It just doesn't seem like a company that makes products I can be hyped about, moral issues notwithstanding.
Wc3 was from good old times when young me still liked rts games. I guess I foolsihly hoped it won't just resurface with some kinda controversy, but hey, nothing is holy in this forsaken industry.
This has been the biggest annoyance for me. I honestly couldn't believe what I was seeing when I saw the mention of having to create a text file in some beta directory. Are things really so rough over at Blizzard that they cannot spend the time and money on creating a key-remapping menu... :xI am left handed, and I was under the assumption that it at least would offer full customizable key-mapping similar to Starcraft 2 which was great and let you map every single shortcut to your personal preference. It made the game so much more enjoyable.
This is what I get when I try to customize the WC3 controls.
Are they really telling me to go into a txt file and edit hundreds of buttons manually, are you frigging kidding me?? And to top it all off they can't even be bothered to update tooltip from beta to retail.
Until I get a functioning key-mapping system I can't be bothered to start this game, even Age of Empires : Definitive Edition let me map my keys however I want it.
Thanks for this thread, I was thinking about buying this game. But ive realized that I should just no longer support them. I think i have also stopped caring about the unlikely as it was Warcraft 4, as well. I think I will also skip Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2
One will require intense micro and one will literally micro itself. The former will be severely underpowered and they will balance patch in a year.
Yes, along with clans and other features
I think this is now officially worse than Silent Hill: HD Collection. At least that didn't fuck with the original versions of the games.
That's insane. Nothing gets to me more than when a major company can't be bothered to implement simple solutions to problems solved many many years ago.I am left handed, and I was under the assumption that it at least would offer full customizable key-mapping similar to Starcraft 2 which was great and let you map every single shortcut to your personal preference. It made the game so much more enjoyable.
This is what I get when I try to customize the WC3 controls.
Are they really telling me to go into a txt file and edit hundreds of buttons manually, are you frigging kidding me?? And to top it all off they can't even be bothered to update tooltip from beta to retail.
Until I get a functioning key-mapping system I can't be bothered to start this game, even Age of Empires : Definitive Edition let me map my keys however I want it.
They did fuck with them. HARD.
You can't download them anymore, and if you connect to Battle.net with the old versions, it will force you to update to the Reforged client.
Can't download the old clients anymore either.
I was looking forward to this as a big fan of the SC2 campaigns (100%'d) who owned WC3 but didn't play much of it for one reason or another at the time. Still interested but looks like it's knocked down to "wait for a sale" tier starts which time it will hopefully be improved.
cursed
StarCraft Remastered was incredible, so sad to see warcraft fans being treated this way.
I should try to delete my Blizzard/Battle.net account again. Any advice on how to go about it without providing ID? Last thing I want is to give them more information about me.
Just commenting on the windowed fullscreen, my understanding is it was due to DX12 and fullscreen was not possible probably early on in the dev cycle. Also affected the BFA xpac. So proper fullscreen is being discontinued by Blizzard is due to an issue that existed with one of the interface drivers between DX12 and Win10. That issue has been resolved and patched, but by the time it was, Blizzard had already excised natural fullscreen from the client(s). Probably don't expect to see it, ever.
For real. I was really looknig forward to whatever remasters Blizzard was cooking up after Starcraft but now??? I hope they don't even bother touching something like Diablo 2.
Sad to hear about how this turned out. I'm incredibly nostalgic for Warcraft 3, and I was holding out hope this would turn out good. Seems more like they slashed the budget and sent it out to die. And somehow dragged classic Warcraft 3 down with it. I'm curious enough I might go reinstall the old game and see how bad the new online is.
They asked for an ID to delete your account? I don't think I had to provide one.
Legally speaking they of course had that : game may be subject to change notice,...
that's dishonest, lazy and insulting to the playerbase
that's dishonest, lazy and insulting to the playerbase
Yep. When I provided... Alternative... ID... they rejected my request lol.
Buy a digital item from the blizzard store and do a chargeback.
For a 1.0 release this definitely still feels like it's in beta.
I'm running the game at 1920x1200 @ 60fps but the actual units are still 30fps for me. How this came through testing is beyond me unless this is how the game was designed, but I definitely don't think this is correct. The UI and menus also feel sluggish and I know my computer is extremely overkill for this game (9900K, 32GB, 2080 8GB). I also don't see an option for custom campaigns in my 30 minutes of playing last night.
Definitely don't buy the game and I'm honestly thinking of getting a refund, if they'll allow it.
Edit: Blizzard immediately refunded me through the site, no questions or ticket required.
I'm running the game at 1920x1200 @ 60fps but the actual units are still 30fps for me. How this came through testing is beyond me unless this is how the game was designed, but I definitely don't think this is correct. The UI and menus also feel sluggish and I know my computer is extremely overkill for this game (9900K, 32GB, 2080 8GB). I also don't see an option for custom campaigns in my 30 minutes of playing last night.
Definitely don't buy the game and I'm honestly thinking of getting a refund, if they'll allow it.
Edit: Blizzard immediately refunded me through the site, no questions or ticket required.
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RIP Blizzard polish
SC:R was the last release that you can say that had any sort of polishing. It's been all downhill ever since then.
Kinda funny seeing this trainwreck happen in front of my eyes in real time though. If they were all in on China they probably should've put more effort into a game that would sell gangbusters in China.
But alas.
SC:R was the last release that you can say that had any sort of polishing. It's been all downhill ever since then.
Kinda funny seeing this trainwreck happen in front of my eyes in real time though. If they were all in on China they probably should've put more effort into a game that would sell gangbusters in China.
But alas.
How did you ask for a refund? I can not play any custom games, the game always crashes on me. Also when playing sp mode i get fps drops and i got a pretty decent pc. The ui is still sluggish like it was in beta version, dunno i expected at least some things would get fixed.
Also maybe its my imagination but the game feels "heavier" to play compared to the original. The units do not feel responsive like they did before but maybe im imagining things.
Just got my refund a few minutes ago. I went to https://us.battle.net/support/en/help/ - navigated to Warcraft 3 Reforged, then typed in my issue, then selected payment, then refund. No ticket required and they immediately refunded me.
The other guy helped you already but if it doesn't automatically refund you like for me, you can submit a ticket or do the live chat. Live chat was down last night so I just submitted a ticket.
You want people to become unemployed because their bosses' bosses made bad decisions?
I'm not a game developer, but if I got the chance to work on Overwatch, I would love to. You can't really tell those people "I know you have a dream and all, but you can't for moral reasons".
It's like saying 100% of the people employed by FOX News are despicable and represent the company in its entirety.
A job's a job, and AFAIK, Blizzard is a pretty good employer. For certain people, it's about stability.
Have some class consciousness man.
I've just done the exact same thing. First Blizzard game i ever refunded.
In the last 5 years, i went from buying every Blizzard game and playing multiple of their games, to stop playing them, uninstall battle net and not buy anything else from them.
They were my favourite game developer for years, but this is not the Blizzard i knew! What a fall from grace since Mike, Chris and a few others left.
I guess we got that prick Kotick to thank for this!
Nope i also think it looks better. the exaggerated and tabletop war game aesthetics of the original just isn't there.
War3 is one of my all time favorites and I was pretty excited seeing Reforged in person at BlizzCon 2018. What a bummer that it turned out this way :(
Same here, first Blizzard game refunded. Hell I bought diablo III 4 times across 3 platforms and I barely like that damn game. What a disappointment, I hope they make things right by just reworking everything... but we all know it's hopeless.
Never thought I'd say this, but I just refunded a Blizzard game. Don't think I'd ever do that. Been playing their games since the SNES days. Was there for Warcraft 1, 2 and 3. All the Diablos. All the Starcrafts. Thousands of hours in WoW.
Unbelievable that they've fallen this far.
Unbelievable that they've fallen this far.
Astonishingly so.
Hey, I'll watch their high-end cg trailers. Those are nice. Kudos to those artists and animators.
But not caring at all about their game output now.
Is it though? or is it just a bad game?
It's getting review bombed now.
And people legit wondered why the Classic WoW fans kept chanting #NoChanges.
Now the recent patch is dogshit. The remake of WC3 is dogshit. And Hearthstone is even mediocre. Last I checked the only recent thing Blizzard put out that was well received was the Classic WoW we instructed them to NOT CHANGE.
No one has any business trusting their current decision making. Im just glad we realized that before everyone else. That's also why I think the idea of Classic++ is a fucking joke. Just let them do TBC classic without any changes and go away. Nothing they develop today is going to meet expectations.
Now the recent patch is dogshit. The remake of WC3 is dogshit. And Hearthstone is even mediocre. Last I checked the only recent thing Blizzard put out that was well received was the Classic WoW we instructed them to NOT CHANGE.
No one has any business trusting their current decision making. Im just glad we realized that before everyone else. That's also why I think the idea of Classic++ is a fucking joke. Just let them do TBC classic without any changes and go away. Nothing they develop today is going to meet expectations.
Except for the fact the remake is shit because there was NO Changes like they promised.
The purists killed the remake. And Blizzard was happy to oblige cause it was far cheaper to do
Honestly, I think that was just an excuse Blizzard used to justify their lack of effort on this. Even most purists won't be happy with this.
The lack of changes is why this remake sucks, it's just a HD texture pack with some downgrades on the feature side, if this was $15-20 & was advertised differently, it would be okay, but that's not the case.
They couldn't even get the UI right, the new one just isn't good for 2020 with it taking up a big chunk of the screen, i get people have very strong nostalgia for it, but it belongs in 2002.
no, I'd rather them find other employment & don't care for the success of their products.
We're the RTS Warcraft games really that influential? I can only speak for myself, but for the longest time, I thought Warcraft was an offshoot of the Warhammer table top game.