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Warcraft 3 Reforged "downgraded" (from Blizzcon 2018 show)
- Thread starter Chairmanchuck (另一个我)
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Wouldn't it be really nice if we showed respect towards our fellow passionate, caring and incredibly hardworking game devs at Blizzard instead of writing shit posts like this?
Wow, it became flat with less details, lighting, and shadows.
Meanwhile, these recent RTS games came from much smaller studios compared to Blizzard.
Which games are these??
These surely feel like business decisions, not something any senior or junior developer has any say in.
Why not? They have shown a much better version in the initial reveal. They probably just didn't put enough budget to this project, to optimize it.
I've edited my post with the names.
Respect is something you have to earn by making things that people love. This thing here ends up looking like it quickly had to be rushed out - Do you really want people to support an obvious lack of quality?
Seems like this dev team was thrown to the wolves by blizzard. Wasn't this just a fan project to remaster warcraft 3 in the starcraft 2 engine before blizz picked them up?
AoE2 devs were also really dedicated modders but they have very strong support from microsoft.
Also forcing both versions of the game to be compatible is beyond stupid on the part of blizzard. It actively holds the new version back from its full potential and breaks the original in the process. And for what? Day one custom maps?
AoE2 devs were also really dedicated modders but they have very strong support from microsoft.
Also forcing both versions of the game to be compatible is beyond stupid on the part of blizzard. It actively holds the new version back from its full potential and breaks the original in the process. And for what? Day one custom maps?
Not saying the devs had any say in this, but I don't see how the old league at Blizzard would've been okay with cutting back and potentially harming one of their most cherised IPs. Warcraft 3 and the quality of its cinematics was a huge part of the reason why I became a game developer, so seeing it getting this kinda treatment just rubs me the wrong way.
This. Just couldn't see this happening under the old 'Blizzard'
Blizzard is one of the best in the business navigating through those situations.
It just feels like this project had a huge budget\resource allocation cut somewhere in the middle of it's development.
I would say that Blizzard has a loooong record of beloved IP's. Haven't played reforged yet, but they sure made things people love, you are a bit too harsh.
Oh, I love Blizzard. I used to work at Blizzard and they were a great employer. I'm obviously a huge Blizzard fanboy and yeah, they made some of the best games ever - That is exactly why seeing THIS is just a no-go to me.
SpellForce 3
Wow, just wow. Thanks for that Spellforce 3 mention.
Just checking the videos and it actually seems extremely good, it kinda scratches that Warcraft 3 itch.
I need to get it now.
Blizzard is a sellout joke. I would have followed the old Blizzard to the ends of the Earth.
Amen.
Amen.
I AM sad this is turning it out like this (the first pc I built was for WC3), but I guess I still give the benefit of doubt until I get to play it and see if it really is that bad. In any case, as game dev, that "full of interns" doesn't seem rough to you?
Blizzard said all the new features, (apart from the new models) would have an option to activate or deactivate them, there was no hard place they just straight up gutted the development team and ended up getting rid of all of it
Also the 3 companies that continue to get away with this kind of bullshit and sell like crazy.
I mean, if you still support Blizzard I don't feel bad for you.
Nah Chief, I don't support or even respect people who work for companies who shit on free speech.
As I said in the other thread, it's worth pointing out that until today the only trailers available for the game, that were being used to sell the game, were the outdated ones from BlizzCon 2018 with all the bells and whistles.
I read you are forced to download the 20GB update if you want to go online even if you don't buy reforged.
And that kills the custom campaigns etc as well. Is that true?
and yet, people still do despite the crap they pull. Vote with your wallets people!
But... They remade assets ... They didn't just upres the game so that argument is bad.
I really don't get the UI change. Bringing it a modern UI was the most important part of the remaster. If you scale back the budget and can't do the art ok. But at least fix the UI.
Never preorder games is always the moral of the story.
Never preorder games is always the moral of the story.
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I expected the worst when they basically announced they were giving up putting any effort into it at Blizzcon, but holy shit, that Illidan vs. Arthas cinematic is an absolute embarrassment. Genuinely worse than the original scene in every way, and this is from a studio that normally kills it with cinematics, even on their least interesting projects.
Even the StarCraft remaster looks better, and that was half the price.
And they just released one of the worst wow patches ever. Hell, they even copied the ending to Lord of the Rings and wrapped up the story on a two dollar budget. Blizzard has no shame anymore.
You're right, but they were giving a $10 discount if you had virtual BlizzCon pass and I never thought Blizzard would treat one of their classic games this way. But Blizzard isn't what it was just 5 years ago I guess.
That's too bad. Even the cinematic trailer looks like a serious downgrade from what they usually put out. They didn't even bother to add voice acting aside from grunts.
I am not Blizzard's biggest fan for reasons right now, but this is still sad to see.
I am not Blizzard's biggest fan for reasons right now, but this is still sad to see.