You won't because there are none.
The biggest fault of this argument that is always brought up is equating userbase as if everyone buys and plays the same games. If that were the case, niche games wouldn't be niche, and their communities wouldn't be dead after a month or so because while combined sales of the game across platforms may be pretty good, the playerbase is split up and having trouble finding people to play with. Not to mention getting into other smaller details of demographic mismatch.
LOL....Why would Sony need to come out and state the obvious in Public? Did you ever hear of networking effects? People want to buy a console more so they can play with their friends, cross play negates this which is good..but I can see why Sony sees it as a competitve advantage, it's pretty common sense.
Exactly. This is in their pipeline. All in due time. Sucks for War Thunder but remember, that game was once PC/PS4 exclusive with cross-play from day one-ish.
It's valid to the discussion? Whether you agree or not is also relevant, but people are just explaining why sony might be apprehensive, it's as valid as many other things about cross play. I mean there are post sin this thread saying there is no business reason, there clearly is.....It might be a shitty reason but it is what it is. I mean do people think a WW large company makes decisions on a whim on spite alone?
Sure if that's what you think but no..it's common sense. So networking effects do not exist and a WW company make as decisions based on a whim for spite? Agree to dis-agree.
Business make business decisions...Whats wrong with discussing it? Why does it bother you people get into Sony's reasoning regardless of what you think of their stance?
Don't know how old you are are, but I was in highschool during the 360/PS3 era and crossplay definitely something that everyone thought would be great. I was a big sony guy at that time and only had a PS3 while most other kids had the 360. Always had friends say cod was much better on 360 because that's where the community was.
Tbh I think you just need to understand that everyone already knows why sony's doing what they are doing, we have bad dozen of threads on this topic. Other than stating the obvious, you're not really saying anything....there's no discussion to be had to why a multibillion-dollar corporation is being anti-consumer.
Its bullshit because there's little, if anything, to work on from their end. It's taking so long because they only intended to enable it for the biggest games due to them generating negative press for them. They're not supportive of console crossplay, otherwise they wouldn't have any hoops to jump through, like how Nintendo and Microsoft handle it. You can't seriously tell me that this requires some intensive effort on their end when Nintendo of all companies has no issues with it and we have developers literally saying that they're just waiting to get the okay to implement it as many of them already have the work done
I don't know all that much about computers, but maybe it's because they don't block it.
You can make up all the hypothetical futures you want. The fact is that this dev is actively asking Sony to just say "yes you can do crossplay" and they won't.
If by allow, you mean only for two games and nothing else when everyone else can do it for all of them, then sure. The fact that some of you guys take what they said at face value as legitimate is ridiculous
No, that's not my problem and I don't care what they said, I care about what they're doing and what they've done and they've done very little to convince me that they're going to be more open for console crossplay, save for the absolute biggest games that generate bad press for them. Its laughable that they'd supposedly need a Beta for this when everyone else does it without issue. It makes much more sense that they only did this to placate gamers for the time being without actually going further. There's no work that needs to be done on their end, just the developer end and they have set up so they can do it as soon as they get the okay
Considering the conversation started when a few posters said "There is no business reason", it's clear you are wrong, there was a whole discussion on it. So some must care I was not responding to myself, nor even started the discussion.
I have no doubt that Sony has a business case for not allowing Crossplay. I think I am allowed to doubt that it is a GOOD business case and I think we are also all allowed to say we don't care either way about Sony's business case. I don't think anyone in this thread is saying that crossplay is a bad thing, and if we believe Sony at face value, then they agree too. So is it just that Sony is so technically incompetent that they can't implement crossplay even when technical capabilities are already proven or is it that they're intentionally slowing down implementation of something that their own customers say they want or is it that we can't take them at face value about their intentions and beliefs? Sure shouldn't be as hard as name changes. But judging by how that beta went, maybe I'm overestimating their abilities.
Exactly. And since the crossplay announcement 2 games are able to crossplay with other consoles. I'm sure other games will be announced soon. It's going just how they said it would. Strange.
Ayup, I'm thinking most games that want cross play are getting slow walked.
Why do you want companies to go out of their way to fuck over consumers like this?
It was just a thought. Microsoft charge for F2P but bang on about cross platform. While Sony allows cross platform (just not with Xbox Switch yet fully) but doesn't charge for F2P. I know which I'd rather have.
