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WaPo: Trump announces deal for government to reopen for three weeks, ending longest shutdown; no money for his border wall
- Thread starter WedgeX
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Sadly this is is both a win and a loss: the democrats bascially got nothing short of opening the government when the smart play probably would have been to ask for the moon and just give him the money with some kind of mechanism to ensure it was like a wall of drones or some shit.
Also, NPR mentioned that he's still considering unilateral emergency powers in 3 weeks: which is a very big possibility.
Also, NPR mentioned that he's still considering unilateral emergency powers in 3 weeks: which is a very big possibility.
Wait what? Somebody explain this! Is that a civil war I smell? (I meant the Coulter twit)
Nah this only works when he doesn't self impose the shutdowns. The Dems will definitely back another CR sans Wall after 3 weeks and we know he will cave again so there is no reason to accept his next offer. Unless of course they actually want to implement a DACA fix. That's something the Dems can trade for border funding and go home with a true win. I think many democrats would be satisfied with an amnesty plan and ending family separations & child detainment at the borders.
they got the realization that trumps a traitor. which everyone else is already there
No reason to expect Trump won't make the country go through the same dance in a few weeks. Good thing is, he looks worse and worse if he continues to be ok with putting government workers and contractors on this roller coaster ride. Hopefully journalists reach out to those that have been affected so the nation can see what damage this kind of financial insecurity can cause.
Dems can keep it off the table and pass clean DACA. They had a huge advantage this go around by not having a single issue on the table that trump could leverage. If they can skate through the year it will be smooth sailing in 2020. Trump wouldn't be stupid enough to shut down the government during an election year. Would he?
Coulter has been around for-fucking-ever. I guess no one remembers the Bush years/9-11 and the war on terror. During that time she was advocating for "killing the families of terrorists" and other such shit.
God I hope his approval drops to the teens, but we all know these idiots will create a nonsense conspiracy theories about how he is winning.
Cause he's a massive idiot. Democrats offered him 25 billion for it last year so he would stop screwing with DACA & TPS recipients and he said no. It took him a year to realize that was the best offer he was ever gonna get.
Saw this buried in a WaPo article from today; I suspect this might have been a huge consideration in Trump's decision.
Source (link)
That's 14 000 IRS workers telling Uncle Sam to pound sand, out of the 36 000 extra IRS workers recalled back from furlough.
Source (link)
That's 14 000 IRS workers telling Uncle Sam to pound sand, out of the 36 000 extra IRS workers recalled back from furlough.
Punished Pelosi was fucking brutal during all of this.
More of that, please.
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Absolutely.
On top of the pain of federal employees and contractors, the restaurants in DC have been hurting badly the past few weeks - I can only imagine the small business owners with some choice words for trump. DC's estimated to have lost $12 million a week in direct economic activity due to the shutdown. Can only imagine what this did to small towns reliant on one big government agency or building as their primary employer.
Glad that people are going to get paid.
These people voted for a Trump who doesn't exist.
A strongman, expert negotiator who will destroy the establishment in DC and get things done.
Slowly but surely they're seeing he's a fraud.
They will start looking dumber and dumber for supporting him and look for others to blame and pretend they never really believed him anyway.
A strongman, expert negotiator who will destroy the establishment in DC and get things done.
Slowly but surely they're seeing he's a fraud.
They will start looking dumber and dumber for supporting him and look for others to blame and pretend they never really believed him anyway.
The biggest problem with your line of thinking is that you're overestimating the shutdowns approval with the Republican party and the support that he has with his base.
Most polls indicated that less than 30% of the public approved of the use of the shutdown to get a wall.
He's also agreeing to literally everything that was in the original CR and nothing more or less.
Ann Coulter's reaction is more indicative of the type of response he's going to get from this entire stunt.
He honestly thinks governing is like running one of his businesses. So much for the Art of the Deal lol.
It's possible but I doubt it.
Its more like Trump has three weeks to figure out how to make an Emergency Declaration, siphon off some money from other agencies/funds, build like a few miles of fence and claim victory.
Maybe not. Democrats have indicated that they are willing to put more money and manpower (judges, chiefly) into border security. That might satisfy the administration as they will not want to go through this humiliation again.
(Also, the Russian election interference scandal is ongoing and moving rapidly. Trump may have less than zero leverage in 3 weeks time.)
His party has seen the polls and public reaction to it now, they'll strongarm him into signing whatever deal is made during the next 3 weeks or they'll strongarm McConnell to override the president.
So what? He announces an emergency and will be sued. If anything it will simply give him the cover to walk away from this stupid fight forever. Its not about getting the wall...its about saving face.
Jesús, I never partakae in this, but just for once:
"YASSSS QUEEEN"
Ecstatic for the government workers and those most affected over by the government programs that were shut down and going to be shutdown. Trump being completely played and embarrassed is small consolation for the damage his ego is causing, but I'll take it. What a completely pointless shutdown.
If Trump actually thought he could do it then he'd just do it. You don't give yourself a loss and then do it later unless you're one desperate motherfucker. Not saying he won't, but clearly someone is telling him it's a goddamned bad idea. And it is.
No. They would have lost their position with that kind of play. They were never at any point trying to get anything out of this and Pelosi only came in to finish the job Paul Ryan failed at doing.
The message was loud and clear: THERE WILL BE ZERO NEGOTIATION WHILE THE GOVERNMENT IS SHUTDOWN.
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He needs a new argument if he wants to try shutting down the government again. If his messaging and demands haven't changed, people will see through his empty threats immediately. All this proves is that the government can and SHOULD be allowed to perform its basic functions while the legislature debates border policy, and not operate under constant threat of shutdown by an erratic tyrant. Things will NOT be better for him if he pulls this shit a second time.
SO who was it and what did the tweet say?
Looks like it been deleted.
