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WAPO: How The Rise Of Skywalker learned to stop worrying and love the alt- right SW trolls
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Yup. I went from being okay with it before the ST to just sick to death of it over the past few years. I just want to go a couple years where we don't have to hear about it anymore.
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Wrong board to make such a declaration. Hell a lot of the love from it here seems to stem because people seem to think they're sticking it to the alt right or something and they have to correct it in the other direction.
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I dislike TLJ, hate TROS, and think Rogue One is really the only outright good Star Wars movie since the originals.
Checkmate liberals/alt-right/socialists/libertarians!
Checkmate liberals/alt-right/socialists/libertarians!
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You'd have an easier time getting people here to vote for Biden than to acknowledge that.
This forum has made me hate star wars lol just let it go people.
Such a success that people were clamoring to see the follow up....
Oh please. TLJ did attract a lot of right wing haters but the amount that TROS tries to course correct or even appeal to those people specifically is highly overstated. Personally I love both movies, TLJ is better but TROS was not the slap in the face to it that a lot of people claim.
But it had an identical dropoff to ESB. Which,
*checks notes*
People didn't like as much as ANH.
If only the people had the self awareness to realize that it's still shitty to use the arguments that the alt right uses to decry a movie. Like, suddenly you had Era members pointing out that Holdo has purple hair while simultaneously mansplaining their way to hell about why she should've just told Poe the plan. You know, the guy who started throwing chairs the second he found out what the plan was.
That's really weird to like some Blockbuster film by a giant corporation to stick it to some losers lmao
Except for Asian people who got to see their representation axed in TROS.
Honestly I just hit a point where I block out anything related to Star Wars. I like the franchise but I'm fucking sick of hearing people talk about it for years on end. Don't even get me started on how fucking brutal it was to browse YouTube for a year+ because the algorithm needed me to know that "The Last Jedi is a cinematic failure"
Is it really a surprise though? All the lip-service LF did about having diversity in the series but still have SW movies exclusively crafted by and starring white peoples while PoCs get the privilege of being side roles and stepping stones?
This article doesn't seem to have enough meat on it to claim that TROS specifically targeted extreme right wing sensibilities. Certainly nothing in the plot itself ventures to be anything more pointed than typical binary SW moralizing.
I think it just so happens that the great majority of SW fans are white males, and that particular demographic skews generally toward a more conservative approach. So while it's not inconceivable that TROS was a love letter to "alt-right trolls," it's probably more likely a confluence of a demographic aligning two circles on a venn diagram.
I think it just so happens that the great majority of SW fans are white males, and that particular demographic skews generally toward a more conservative approach. So while it's not inconceivable that TROS was a love letter to "alt-right trolls," it's probably more likely a confluence of a demographic aligning two circles on a venn diagram.
Compare the theme of
"You're nobody, there's no box that you fit in, anyone can be a hero, even women in this traditionally masculine franchise,
"Actually literally two different dudes are the reason you're powerful. Here's your box. Fuck the idea that anyone can be a hero lol"
Hell, even dialogue comparison.
"You don't just have power, you have HIS power"
The TROS has the least amount of feminist themes/ideas in it compared to TLJ and TFA an that is an indictment in and of itself even if it wasn't intentional.
It's interesting that the article highlights the admonition of Reylos. To me, they seemed almost like an independent faction in the Culture Wars - split with both TLJ and ROS. Their part in this story is their decidedly misogynistic position as victims of harassment, which makes sense given the article's thesis. But given that Reylo seems to be a ship that both the shippers and the right wing/tier 3 fans wanted, I perhaps don't understand the infighting?
I'm pretty sure the Rey Palpatine twist was there because JJ and Terrio actually wanted it and wasn't just put there out of a desire to appeal to right wing haters.
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I was iffy on TLJ. There's a lot to like and lot a to dislike.
After marathon ingredients the series just to watch the premier of TROS at 1 am...Man, made me realize how small those flaws were and how much effort there was in trying to make something new and exciting.
I completely came around on TLJ after that miserable night and the workday that followed.
I have seen the light.
(I maintain that TFA still sucks, Rey super sucks in it and it's lack of creativity doomed this trilogy)
After marathon ingredients the series just to watch the premier of TROS at 1 am...Man, made me realize how small those flaws were and how much effort there was in trying to make something new and exciting.
I completely came around on TLJ after that miserable night and the workday that followed.
I have seen the light.
(I maintain that TFA still sucks, Rey super sucks in it and it's lack of creativity doomed this trilogy)
Ok? I'd still say the same thing and that JJ and Terrio simply told the story they wanted to tell.
I'm Asian, I always want more Asian representation. I just didn't like Rose and how she was set up in TLJ, so when she was essentially written out of TROS, I was surprised, but it didn't really bother me
This one sentence in the article sticks out to me: "the most visible Star Wars fan media is made by white men"
but honestly, "Star Wars media is made by white men" would be a much more difficult article to write but way more relevant, imo
Search your feelings. You know which one has the red lightsaber. Pick that side.
It's weird because it's not what happened in any meaningful number.
And the story they told had problematic elements. It doesn't matter if it's the story they wanted to tell, (a reminder that JJ wasn't even the original director or writer and that the script was a hacked together version of another version of the film).
Media can normalize good and bad things.
