This builds on an earlier Yale/Washington Post study looking at just March whose numbers were actually low - about 5,000 lower than they estimated due to deaths not being reported in a timely manner.
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WaPo: Excess U.S. deaths hit estimated 37,100 in pandemic’s early days, far more than previously known
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This builds on an earlier Yale/Washington Post study looking at just March whose numbers were actually low - about 5,000 lower than they estimated due to deaths not being reported in a timely manner.
There is absolutely no way in hell there is a single country out there that hasn't lied it's damn teeth off about the true figures & number of deaths from this.
I knew as soon as I saw the reports about the cremation urns in China and mass graves in Iran that simply from a public order standpoint no matter how bad it got, no country in the world was going to be, or could even afford to be, honest with it's public about how bad this shit is.
No country wants to see it's population panic.
I won't be surprised after all this is said and done to see studies post-pandemic that show the true fatality numbers to be 3 or 4 times the reported figures :(
I knew as soon as I saw the reports about the cremation urns in China and mass graves in Iran that simply from a public order standpoint no matter how bad it got, no country in the world was going to be, or could even afford to be, honest with it's public about how bad this shit is.
No country wants to see it's population panic.
I won't be surprised after all this is said and done to see studies post-pandemic that show the true fatality numbers to be 3 or 4 times the reported figures :(
Its making him look like a buffoon. He and his administration keep moving the "goal post" on deaths to keep his base from believing facts.
Truth is, we'll never know just how many people died.
Years after this is all over and behind us, we'll have a range at best. Like Tienanmen, or Chernobyl. There will be so much haggling about inclusion as far as dying from complications from the virus or directly, let alone different organizations having different methodologies and people who aren't counted because they didn't seek treatment and died at home, which is to say nothing of immigrants in detention or prison populations.
The sheer numbers and the political/cultural implications will make anything close to an exact count impossible.
Years after this is all over and behind us, we'll have a range at best. Like Tienanmen, or Chernobyl. There will be so much haggling about inclusion as far as dying from complications from the virus or directly, let alone different organizations having different methodologies and people who aren't counted because they didn't seek treatment and died at home, which is to say nothing of immigrants in detention or prison populations.
The sheer numbers and the political/cultural implications will make anything close to an exact count impossible.
Can you post the link to the article OP? I don't see it.
This kind of gap in the reported numbers is expected and depressing.
This kind of gap in the reported numbers is expected and depressing.
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Ah my apologies! It's added to the OP now.
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Millions of Americans will die. Expect anarchy this time next year.
States are opening up now whereas they were shut down before. We'd be damn lucky to be at 1/4th...
to think that about half the states in the most powerful nation in the history of Earth are taking illegitimate steps to hide and obfuscate the total count - and thereby increasing the number of dead - to appease the tantrums of an overweight 70 year old toddler who may be one of the most morally deficient, ignorant and mentally incompetent adults any of us have ever even heard of, let alone encountered as part of our daily lives.
1- Not every national government acts with malice (shocking, I know, there's a whole world out there).
2- Surely not every national government has actively acted /against the welfare of its own citizens, and specially not to the extent the US federal government has. The chain of mistakes, lies and bad decisions is nothing short of historical.
It's not the time to go "what about ____". Demand your fucking dignity, America.
Between the flu overlap and the shit early reporting, we'll never know the true number. Especially since different sides will use different numbers depending on who needs to look bad.
Lol, and people wonder why Era users have anxiety and depression. Era is its own worst enemy.
Lol, and people wonder why Era users have anxiety and depression. Era is its own worst enemy.
These fuckers couldn't even stay at home until May, let alone June. This 2nd wave is going to come early and it's going to be worse.
Speaking of mortality, here's a little chart you can use to fact-check that troll on your Facebook feed. A good illustration of what it would look like if we compared flu and COVID deaths on an equal playing field:
I've gotten tired of explaining to people on Facebook who think covid deaths are being counted for any kind of death as
long as they have covid. I'll show them articles like this where reported overall deaths are through the roof compared to historical averages this time of year. Usually no one replies after I do that but it's getting tiring
long as they have covid. I'll show them articles like this where reported overall deaths are through the roof compared to historical averages this time of year. Usually no one replies after I do that but it's getting tiring
I was expecting something more along the lines of 20k at most. It would be pretty startling if tomorrow the death count just jumps up to 100k all of a sudden. I wonder if that'd scare some damn sense into the astroturf protesters...
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Not a chance, as you've already noted, they're astroturf protestors. They would just claim all the deaths are made up to make dear leader look bad.
You know as well as I do that the sorts protesting would take a sudden jump to be complete fake news.
Trump in 6 months. We did a tremendous job. If we hadn't reacted quickly billions would have died! The experts, by the way great people, now say between 60 million and 100 million will die. I say that's pretty good. The lamestream media obviously won't say that. It's a shame, really, they only report fake news.