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WandaVision | Paul Bettany is in this | Fridays on Disney+
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I'm probably wrong, but one thought I keep having is could Mordo be the big bad? We know he's been going around and eating (Yo) Magic for awhile and Wanda would make an amazing target to neutralize or absorb. Besides that, he's had several years by this point to grow his power and I can think of a couple of reasons why screwing with Wanda might be part of a larger plan.
What's the subtitle for Doctor Strange 2 again?Evan peters is MoM
People can regress in moments of strife - hell, Tony Stark's character arc has him make the same fuck-up at least twice. Infinity War and Endgame already show Wanda taking Vision's death badly, like "nearly single-handedly rips Thanos apart" badly. It's not exactly rocket science to think that she's potentially susceptible to getting nudged off the ledge in the hope of undoing her loss and fixing her grief. Someone or something lettering her know SWORD secretly swiped Vision's corpse to dissect him is as good a nudge as any.
There are plenty of ways it out so that Wanda doesn't know the details of the deal or, heck, that she even made one.
That Wanda has no recollection of the events leading up to her creating alternate Westview actually makes that likely.
That Wanda has no recollection of the events leading up to her creating alternate Westview actually makes that likely.
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At first, I thought he had a tattoo that was "HoM" (House of M) :v
Kinda related:
House of Mouse? 🤔
Mickey Mouse is the final villain
Him and his hellhound, Pluto
She might have met with a portly Robert DeNiro eating an egg and not recalled the deal.
So you are just going to cherry pick that one sentence and ignore the rest of what I wrote?
The devil takes plenty of forms, even some that appear to be an ally. It's not necessarily going to be the same thing.
She knew that working with Hydra to get revenge on Stark and the Avengers was wrong, but they cared at the time more about vengeance. Same with Ultron, but she realized how horrific his plan was and ultimately didn't want to kill everyone on the planet. Since then, she doesn't want to be feared, she wants to feel accepted and understood and Vision is someone that accepts her unconditionally for who she is. At the end of Infinity War, she is willing to sacrifice the person she loves to save everyone, over her own happiness. At the end of Endgame, she is working towards the acceptance of that loss and has the belief that they both did the right thing and Vision died for a greater purpose.
Perhaps she has ended up backsliding in Wandavision, we don't know that yet and grieving the loss of a loved one isn't something you cry about for a couple days and move on, but if she were to head down a malicious, selfish, villainous path, that would undoubtedly be about undoing that path far more than her trying to find an answer to her pain in a moment of weakness.
To some degree, Wanda understands that in order to have this perfect sitcom life with Vision, she has to maintain this reality. I don't believe that is likely to change. I think if she made a Faustian bargain, a devil with the devil, she doesn't know the full consequences of that agreement. That's not just about her being "dumb", that is her being human and basically the whole idea behind a deal with the devil; You think you want something so bad, but you don't comprehend the costs to you or the cost may be greater than what you gained. It's a tragic story.
I am kinda concerned that the end result of this will be either Wanda Crazy, and/or Wanda Susceptible to Bad Men's Ideas. Here's hoping the reveal is that Wando is the tool, not the agent, of most of this.
Well now that I dream of genie thread makes sense. WTF did I just watch? This better get better than whatever that was (just watched episode one).
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Mordo will be involved in the coming arc for sure, if not part of this series. He's been on the sidelines doing something and is a pretty major player.
It would be interesting for him to be the reason the multiverse opens up. He has been known to side with greater forces such as Dormammu. Who knows, maybe since the stones are scattered some locked doors have opened up such that other demons and forces of nature have been given freedom to roam once again.
Interestingly, on his page it says he knows necromancy. Would that work on Vision?
It's not just imitations of sitcoms. There's already some suspicious stuff just in that first episode. Keep going.
Yeah I will just to be sure I haven't gone completely insane in lockdown...
not a full machine, ultron mind controlled an expert geneticist to craft Vision's body
in fact he's called a synthezoid
That doesn't make him a cyborg.
Glossary:Synthezoid | Marvel Database | Fandom
A Synthozoid,[SUP][1][/SUP] or Synthezoid, is special type of android, also known as a "synthetic humanoid" robot.
They have analogues to human body parts. They are not cyborgs.
here we go
considering he can make stuff on his body like the cape or clothes just appear and disappear, he can just generate a penis if he needs to
still the geneticist being involved makes me wonder if he was designed to even be able to procreate
You could argue that Ben Kingsley was completely stunt casting given that the movie was sold on him being the villain of Iron Man 3. It totally helped sell the idea that The Mandarin wasn't a fake out.
"You know, I'm something of a scientist myself..."
Smash cut to a room with Doc Ock, Doctor Doom, and Curt Conners, sitting at a table, playing cards.
Ock: You know, we were just looking for a fourth...
Ben Kingsley was not stunt casting.
And I agree with Carbon
Evans Peters' QS needs to be more than just an empty, shallow Easter egg or fanservice.
They surely have a narrative reason for why it was him and not ATJ's QS that shows up. Wanda even questions why he looks different.
While not the same branch of Marvel, they did hire Felicia Day to play Mary Jane in the last Spider-Man cartoon for a handful of episodes in that show's last season. Definitely felt like stunt casting.
Simply saying that Ben Kingsley wasn't stunt casting isn't a reason that he wasn't stunt casting.
His casting was part of the marketing of the movie and using his acting pedigree to help to sell the gravity of the role; Iron Man's most notorious villain in the final entry of the Iron Man trilogy. Ultimately, it was still a gimmicky casting using the audience's expectations to misdirect from the real villain of the movie. And on top of that Trevor Slattery wasn't as much of a character as a gag, a comic relief. That seems to fit the definition pretty solidly to me.
Didn't think of that at all. How the hell did the US government get his body. This seems like a huge over sight from Steve or Black Widow unless they got the body literally right after the compound was blown up b/c the Avengers were in disarray.
Which is incredibly meta and on brand for a show spoofing family sitcoms.
Like when Tom Hanks shows up on Family Ties as Uncle Ned, a troubled alcoholic, then vanishes after his arc is done and is never spoken of again?
Having Evan Peters show up as long lost Uncle Pietro instead of Aaron Taylor Johnson is totally in line with a lot of stunt casting in sitcoms.
Fresh Prince of Bel Air did it as well with Ben Vereen appearing as Will's dad for an episode.
Evan's is a pretty established and talented actor. People recognize him from either American Horror Story or as Quicksilver from the X-Men universe. When he first appears, the "audience" in the show for that episode claps, and cheers, like such reveals do on sitcoms. They cheer because they recognize the famous actor (Brad Pitt in friends).
The "kick-ass" line in episode 6 could allude to Wanda having seen that movie, and "cast" Peter's as Pietro subconsciously.
For us, the real world audience, we're included in this meta mindfuck because we recognize Peters from X-Men, Kick-Ass, and American Horror Story.
I honestly think this is just Marvel going all in on the meta nature of the show within a show, and the greater Marvel universe as a whole (including the FOX films).
This has all been such a fun ride, that I'm fine with whatever they're cooking for the resolution of all of this.
Well. Of course Kingsley was part of the marketing. Were they supposed to spoil the twist of their movie?
He wasn't 'just a gag.' He had a purpose Narratively and was part of the villain's plans to conceal his true identity.
That's different from Peter's QS being nothing more than a simple wink and a nod with no narrative explanation as to why it's him specifically and not ATJ who showed up.
Well I think Monica's mom was the head of SWORD and she died 3 years before WandaVision, so it's possible they were holding his body altruistically. But when Hayward took over he started dissecting it.
god damn wasn't planning on watching this but I saw in a photo they brought in the Fox X-Men? might have to sigh
I really think the only 2 options for a big bad are Agatha Harkness or Nightmare.
Or someone we've seen before like Ultron, Dormammu or Sword itself I guess.
I just can't buy them going for Mephisto at all in the MCU...it just feels like such a leap for most audiences.
Or someone we've seen before like Ultron, Dormammu or Sword itself I guess.
I just can't buy them going for Mephisto at all in the MCU...it just feels like such a leap for most audiences.
Depending on how you read it, it might not be the big cross over you are expecting. The show is quite good though. My wife and I are enjoying the mystery episode to episode and its exciting to watch (takes a few episodes to get what they are going for though)
That's a jump, it's not yet clear if that is the case. If you didn't have a reason to watch before I wouldn't start now just for that thinking that will happen.
I don't mind people not liking the show, but not liking the sitcom stuff just makes me actively sad
It's so perfect and unique
It's so perfect and unique
Don't read this thread until you've caught up to at least Ep 5, but keep watching. It goes places.
The first two episodes are the driest of the bunch, but they're necessary for setting up the story in later episodes.
I've heard there have been episode 7 leaks. I'm not asking for a single detail of what happens, but I'm curious if people seem up or down on them.
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