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WandaVision | Paul Bettany is in this | Fridays on Disney+
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Was Vision ever really out? It looked like the field was pulling him back piece by piece.
That was a good episode. Seems like it kills the speculation that Agnes was behind parts of this unless she's playing the really long con. Probably just the head SWORD guy trying to do something with Vision and it escalated beyond their control.
I was thinking earlier that a small number of people might be affected during WandaVision as part of the Westview Hex just to establish that as a side effect of Wanda's powers, but then a larger event, possibly during Doctor Strange 2, would cause that effect to wash over the world and activate the latent x-gene in random people throughout the world. "No, More Mutants."
But then there's this.
So the other things that left the Hex (the cable/jump rope, the drone, Monica) didn't get drawn back into it, but Vision did. That might mean Vision is creating the Hex and not Wanda (she doesn't know how it started, it started after she took his body). That might make Hayward the big bad; he's Vision Cataract experiment caused the Hex, not Wanda.
Magneto and Wolverine (Professor X to a lesser extent) were always going to need some sort of special circumstances because they need to have existed for like a hundred years each, long before the start of the MCU. Whatever they do for the two of them will be different from however the rest of mutants come into existence anyway.
I think the implication is that he is tied to that place. He cannot leave as the magic sustains him.
Characters in the First Class universe don't age the same as characters in the MCU.
In the final battle against Mephisto Darcy's going to use a double-edged sword coming from her mouth by focusing the totality sum of her sarcastic powers.
Malcolm in the middle, I think.
Edit: Looking at the MINM opening, maybe not.
Malcolm in the Middle was perfect for this episode, Uncle Pietro gave me the same vibes as Malcolms older brother did in the show. Looks after them but also causes trouble.
Can't wait to see where this goes
Can't wait to see where this goes
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How likely is it that Sokovians would have their own version of Halloween? That seemed like it would be a false memory.
Unless the MCU has to pull them from the multiverse fox franchise to help with all the new mutants in the MCU?
I dunno what side she's on in all of this, but this week's Agnes scene felt like long con. She had too much ability to speak and drive before/after vision "freeing her" compared to everyone else on the outskirts.
I agree. This would be a super cheap origin story. Especially because the thing that makes mutants in X-Men so compelling is not their powers (to me at least), but who they were before their powers manifested and how that shaped their perception of a world hostile to them.
Wanda blipping a bunch of super beings into existence in a world already crawling with super beings would be...really boring.
I still suspect something's up with Agnes. The first impression I got watching the scene, and seeing where her car was, was that she might have sensed Wanda's hold on Westview was weakening and was trying to escape. But whoever Agnes actually is, she wasn't strong enough to break through Wanda's power. She looked like she was actively struggling when Vision found her.
As much as I'd like that adrenaline momentum...
I think that was probably...
Dormammu
It's false as hell, they were dressed up as Black Window circa Infinity War, and Nick Fury.
Fans who want people who weren't born with powers to suddenly develop them due to some big event don't want Mutants. They want Inhumans.
Wanda said she doesn't remember that and she's likely not lying
that flashback is an obvious joke that you would see in malcom in the middle or other sitcoms about foreigners and weird traditions
no one fucking putting raw fish in a bag to kids
it's not going to be just the Hex, it's also going to be the Eternals/Celestials, if they use the Hex to create any mutants, it'll just be activating the already present X-gene...
in fact, I bet they don't use the hex to introduce mutants because they are likely going to use Terrigen mist in Ms. Marvel and it's too similar.
Krakoa is the kind of story, like Time Runs Out/Secret Wars, that requires they already establish the X-men and Sentinels etc... it could happen but it's not going to be in the first 5 years of X-MCU stories.
I don't think we need a big event to make the mutants appear in the MCU, mutants have existed forever, but most people don't know, but now the X gene is becoming more prevalent (maybe snap related, but maybe not) and people begin to become afraid. It's almost literally how it was handled in the first X-Men movie. It doesn't need to be super complicated and it doesn't rob Xavier and Magneto and Wolverine of their long histories.
So Agnes is not Agatha Harkness?
Cause she would have said something when Vision snapped her out of Wanda's mind control.
Cause she would have said something when Vision snapped her out of Wanda's mind control.
So Xavier has just had a school for the gifted chilling in new york this whole time and the avengers and shield and any other government agency has never noticed this before? And have just never mentioned them thru the movies because plot reasons?
I mean yea they could go that way but it also feels cheap.
There is not going to be any particularly satisfying way of explaining modern day mutants I don't think. I think the Blip works because you can have these characters doing similar things not related to being mutants before Infinity War.
They made a point to add a bunch of children in this episode. It could be that a ton of people are becoming mutants but it won't be apparent until in a couple of years. Maybe children are more susceptible because they're still developing or something. Maybe adults like Monica wouldn't get powers unless they cross back and forth. If Wanda does end up extending the hex across the world, everyone will only enter once.
It's a Volvo, they kept the boxy look for a long time. At least through the mid 90s.
Also, I'm not sure time references are specific and correct. The marquee playing two movies that were years apart wasn't an accident.
It's possible she's in on it, and is acting, she revealed some important info to VIsion.
Just because WE haven't seen SWORD et al monitoring the school, doesn't mean they haven't. And it was fine and satisfying in the first X-Men movie, and this way we can get movies set in the past too.
Huh? First x-men movie is the first x-men movie. It's media res as in all these characters know there were mutants before the movie takes place and you understand this school has been around for a while.
Thru out all of the movies leading up to Endgame there hasn't been a single mention of mutants. And I said they could go that route too where they can be like "They were here all along." But again it feels cheap.
For me, he reminds me of Jim Carey (not because of the Ace Ventura hair).
We don't even know that's Fox's Quicksliver. He could be the big bad in disguise, or just an illusion placed on Peters dead body. It seems there's a decent chance that Vision and Peter are magic zombies.
It seems like he remembers both Peters pasts AND knows current events he shouldn't. It's not as easy as Fox's QS.
I think the intro was really just parodying the Extreme, heavily edited, manic closeups MTV style you would see in the 90s. The show itself was parodying Malcolm in the Middle.
So here is an important question.
Is the dead Vision we saw in Episode 4 real?
When he attempted to leave the barrier, he looked very much alive. I think Wanda is seeing the trauma, but it isn't actually there. We also have the issue with Pietro, I think Wanda saw "Dead Pietro" twice this past episode. Once when he scares here at the start, and the second where we the audience also see it. But this is just part of her imagination, and not real.
Norm and Agnes seemed to see regular Vision too when snapped out.
Is the dead Vision we saw in Episode 4 real?
When he attempted to leave the barrier, he looked very much alive. I think Wanda is seeing the trauma, but it isn't actually there. We also have the issue with Pietro, I think Wanda saw "Dead Pietro" twice this past episode. Once when he scares here at the start, and the second where we the audience also see it. But this is just part of her imagination, and not real.
Norm and Agnes seemed to see regular Vision too when snapped out.