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Inquisitive_Ghost · Feb 6, 2021

This show is so good, you guys.

This thread is crazy though. I can't watch until after work, so I get home and watch and the damn thread is forty pages ahead of where it was.

megadarve said:
Weird note props for Norm in the last episode spoiled what happened to him in this one. Perhaps what went down was meant to happen earlier.

That is bizarre. An actual error?

Zulith said:
Did anyone mention the dishwashing liquid and if it has any significance?

When the boys wash the dog, they appear to have used joy dishwashing liquid. Then at the end of the episode, Vision washes his hands in joy dishwashing liquid at the same sink. And there is a close-up of him lathering up.

If there were other references to the liquid in earlier episodes, I overlooked it.

I just think it's weird that Vision comes home and immediately goes to the kitchen sink and washes his hands for no apparent reason. And with dish soap? Is that a thing real people do?

Edit: Oh god, I'm an idiot. He didn't just get home, he came in from the backyard at night. He probably just finished burying the dog.

Uzupedro said:
Maybe this was already discussed here but fuck reading almost 30 pages lmao, anyway, what Wanda did with the barrier when she enters after threatening S.W.O.RD?
It had some weird red effect because her powers, it looked like she changed something there, maybe it is impossible to pass through the barrier now? Idk.

I haven't seen any discussion on it but yeah I think she changed something there. It lost its "generic" TV distortion and turned all red, spreading out from where she touched it.

GreenMamba said:
I loved how Vision mentions that the house keeps changing, and how the kids mentioned that it was Saturday that morning, showing how the format itself has become part of the storytelling.

Someone upthread pointed out that the way the day jumped ahead to force Vision to go to work was probably Wanda dodging another argument with him before she tried the same thing with the credit roll.

Deleted member 43657 · Feb 6, 2021

As a total outsider, I'm impressed how welcoming this is to someone who hasn't seen a Marvel anything ever in my life.

I hope it continues this way. All the extra stuff has been explained well enough for me to follow along so far.

ZeoVGM · Feb 6, 2021

Heynongman! said:
Oh my god. If their 2000s comedy is the Office and he shows up as Richards, I'd lose my god damn mind

I want to see James Spader playing a Robert California-esque character that reminds Wanda of Ultron.

molnizzle · Feb 6, 2021

Tank! said:
As a total outsider, I'm impressed how welcoming this is to someone who hasn't seen a Marvel anything ever in my life.

I hope it continues this way. All the extra stuff has been explained well enough for me to follow along so far.

Man I envy you. You should go back and watch all the movies in release order. Not like much other shit is coming out this year. Just pound one a week, 6 straight months of entertainment.

deimosmasque · Feb 6, 2021

When Pietro told Wanda who he was and they hugged, even in the hug she seemed very confused.

She even told Vision "I didn't do that, " both simultaneously admitting that other interruptions were her (Agnes, Credits, Jump Cuts, etc) and this one she was unaware of.

Deleted member 43657 · Feb 6, 2021

I would, but I don't enjoy superhero movies. I saw the trailer for this and I felt like I had to watch it. Sadly, I doubt I'd watch anything else.

deimosmasque · Feb 6, 2021

ZeoVGM said:
I want to see James Spader playing a Robert California-esque character that reminds Wanda of Ultron.

I want a CGI Ultron to appear wearing khakis and a polo shirt, introducing himself as their new neighbor "James"

ZeoVGM · Feb 6, 2021

deimosmasque said:
I want a CGI Ultron to appear wearing khakis and a polo shirt, introducing himself as their new neighbor "James"

Neece · Feb 6, 2021

Tank! said:
As a total outsider, I'm impressed how welcoming this is to someone who hasn't seen a Marvel anything ever in my life.

I hope it continues this way. All the extra stuff has been explained well enough for me to follow along so far.

This is pretty remarkable. I wonder if you're in the minority of people that haven't watched any MCU content but is following everything and enjoying it.

metalfearsolid · Feb 6, 2021

I wonder how MCU is gonna bring Xmen and mutants into this? Maybe something to do with the blip?

Harbinger00 · Feb 6, 2021

this episode, damn. Every time the facade dropped it was was fucking creepy, like when Agnes asked if they should take it again. I was not expecting her to leave the neighborhood and confront Sword, either.

Deleted member 43657 · Feb 6, 2021

Neece said:
This is pretty remarkable. I wonder if you're in the minority of people that haven't watched any MCU content but is following everything and enjoying it.

I must be. I have literally never seen a Spider-Man or what have you. I know Batman is DC, and that's different. The trailer for this show just got me. It looked like it's about a woman's grief manifesting in a truly bizarre supernatural manner. I've loved it so far and I love that it hasn't kicked me out yet. They do well to explain just enough to understand her backstory.

megadarve · Feb 6, 2021

Inquisitive_Ghost said:
That is bizarre. An actual error?

Probably didn't count on people zooming in on the screens, or forgot about this prop in the last episode. Pretty minor I guess? lol

HotHamBoy · Feb 6, 2021

Tank! said:
I must be. I have literally never seen a Spider-Man or what have you. I know Batman is DC, and that's different. The trailer for this show just got me. It looked like it's about a woman's grief manifesting in a truly bizarre supernatural manner. I've loved it so far and I love that it hasn't kicked me out yet. They do well to explain just enough to understand her backstory.

You might enjoy some of the other films more than you would think.

mbpm · Feb 6, 2021

Tank! said:
I must be. I have literally never seen a Spider-Man or what have you. I know Batman is DC, and that's different. The trailer for this show just got me. It looked like it's about a woman's grief manifesting in a truly bizarre supernatural manner. I've loved it so far and I love that it hasn't kicked me out yet. They do well to explain just enough to understand her backstory.

Wow, credit to the marketing team I suppose. My impression of the show was that it feels very Marvel fan centric but apparently not. It doesn't bother me as a Marvel fan, but yea

Deleted member 43657 · Feb 6, 2021

HotHamBoy said:
You might enjoy some of the other films more than you would think.

Which one would you recommend? Just one.

deimosmasque · Feb 6, 2021

ZeoVGM said:

I'm not a huge fan of Red Letter Media. But I liked that... A lot.

entrydenied · Feb 6, 2021

Zulith said:
Glad they referenced this. Wiccan, I see you.

"Mummy is it OK if I like boys?"

"Honey, your dad is a robot and I am a witch. Your uncle was pulled from another universe. You boys became teenagers in less than a week. We all have special powers. Do what you love and love who you love."

HotHamBoy · Feb 6, 2021

Tank! said:
Which one would you recommend? Just one.

...Iron Man

SamAlbro · Feb 6, 2021

Violence Jack said:
I definitely think this is going to lead to bringing back McAvoy, Fassbender, and as we've already seen Evan Peters. I get the feeling they're going to pick and choose based on fan reactions to some of the Fox X-Men movie characters from First Class onwards.

I could see a "House of X /Powers of X" style interpretation where, instead of having the ten lives of Moira McTaggert, they instead bring over a Professor X and Magneto from a world where the dream failed and mutants were wiped out (Charles's final moment perhaps sending his memories of the "Logan" timeline back to his younger self?), forcing them to start over with the MCU doppelgangers of the mutants they knew in the Foxverse.

It would also be an interesting way to dodge the issue of Magneto's age.

Inquisitive_Ghost · Feb 6, 2021

Tank! said:
Which one would you recommend? Just one.

Oof, they've spread out a bit where they're half-stepping into other genres while keeping the other foot in the same "neighbourhood" so that they can still all feel connected. It'd be hard to pick only one now that there's several good ones. It also depends on what kind of stuff you like.

But WandaVision is easily the weirdest, most character-driven thing they've made so far (and is quickly establishing itself as one of the best).

Fake edit: Actually, the Iron Man recommendation isn't bad; it's the one that started it all and it's still a mostly solid movie, though the third act is a bit weak.

Nick · Feb 6, 2021

I don't know if this has been discussed but is there any significance to Monica's medical test results? They were brushed aside very quickly but I thought something was up there.

IMCaprica · Feb 6, 2021

So what are the odds that chunk of New Jersey is both time displaced and universe displaced? The reason mutant Pietro appears is because it's the 80s, and Westview is currently in the Fox X-Men universe?

Lord Vatek · Feb 6, 2021

Nick said:
I don't know if this has been discussed but is there any significance to Monica's medical test results? They were brushed aside very quickly but I thought something was up there.

It's probably foreshadowing that she has powers.

Deleted member 43657 · Feb 6, 2021

HotHamBoy said:
...Iron Man

Only if they actually played "Iron Man" by Black Sabbath. Otherwise, no dice.

Dark_Castle · Feb 6, 2021

metalfearsolid said:
I wonder how MCU is gonna bring Xmen and mutants into this? Maybe something to do with the blip?

At the last episode, Wanda utters "more mutants".

ZeoVGM · Feb 6, 2021

IMCaprica said:
So what are the odds that chunk of New Jersey is both time displaced and universe displaced? The reason mutant Pietro appears is because it's the 80s, and Westview is currently in the Fox X-Men universe?

Westview definitely isn't in the Fox universe. If that is the Fox Quicksilver, he was pulled from the Fox universe into the MCU.

Given that next week is likely to be the 90s and we'll see Quicksilver in the 90s, I wouldn't worry about the time frame. The decades in which the Fox movies took place aren't important.

IDreamOfHime · Feb 6, 2021

Yasuke said:
So, when they were comparing Avenger power levels like school kids talking DBZ; does the MCU's internet have highlight reels of the battle against Thanos, or????

You don't think Fury, Shield, or Sword had the Avengers do some kind of debriefing and talk through what went down?

ZeoVGM · Feb 6, 2021

Dark_Castle said:
At the last episode, Wanda utters "more mutants".

"No, more mutants."

Tetsujin · Feb 6, 2021

Tank! said:
Only if they actually played "Iron Man" by Black Sabbath. Otherwise, no dice.

They do

Wrexis · Feb 6, 2021

IDreamOfHime said:
You don't think Fury, Shield, or Sword had the Avengers do some kind of debriefing and talk through what went down?

Not to mention the fact that there were at least three people in suits that probably recorded the whole thing.

SuperBoss · Feb 6, 2021

GreenMamba said:
This was a super fun episode. Vision and Wanda arguing while the credits were rolling was super unsettling.

Agnes is suspect as hell, and now seeing how "Norm" was woken up by Vision her and Herb being aware of what was really going on in the third episode ending seems very fishy.

The spell definitely isn't foolproof, even the passing mailman in this episode talked to the kids like he knew something and Wanda gave him a look

Violence Jack · Feb 6, 2021

IMCaprica said:
So what are the odds that chunk of New Jersey is both time displaced and universe displaced? The reason mutant Pietro appears is because it's the 80s, and Westview is currently in the Fox X-Men universe?

The snap in Endgame made everything wibbly wobbly timey wimey splitting into alternate universes and probably timelines isy guess.

Sou Da · Feb 6, 2021

IMCaprica said:
So what are the odds that chunk of New Jersey is both time displaced and universe displaced? The reason mutant Pietro appears is because it's the 80s, and Westview is currently in the Fox X-Men universe?

None.

Prototype Viktor · Feb 6, 2021

DetectiveKenobi said:
Did Wakanda give it to them?

Probably took it during tony's funeral

YolkFolk · Feb 6, 2021

What if the MCU X-Men is the Fox X-Men?

They've always been active, just in another universe, and now they're going to cross over.

Fathead · Feb 6, 2021

This is now canon:

AnotherDayAnotherDollar · Feb 6, 2021

Tank! said:
I must be. I have literally never seen a Spider-Man or what have you. I know Batman is DC, and that's different. The trailer for this show just got me. It looked like it's about a woman's grief manifesting in a truly bizarre supernatural manner. I've loved it so far and I love that it hasn't kicked me out yet. They do well to explain just enough to understand her backstory.

That's Feige and Marvel's true genius to be honest. They have every single project be able to stand on its own merit with enough background for people who are not vested in the whole universe to follow along, but at the same time give enough to people who are into it to nerd out. Feige has talked about this, both as a producer and as a consumer, but it's very amazing how they pull that off every time.

You get some hardcore fans complaining since they "know" everything but for the most part most people end up enjoying what they watched whether they have watched previous Marvel Studios projects or not.

Tank! said:
Which one would you recommend? Just one.

Just one? I would say Iron Man, the one that started it all.

Prototype Viktor · Feb 6, 2021

Grunge_Hamster said:
"She recast Pietro?" :VVV

Edit: Sparky and this says she can't revive the dead

Oh you're dead. Let me try and revive you. Opps my powers instead just pulled a different you from a universe. Close enough

Big bad is using this a science test. Let's see her limits even if she's not aware of them

Aprikurt · Feb 6, 2021

IDreamOfHime said:
You don't think Fury, Shield, or Sword had the Avengers do some kind of debriefing and talk through what went down?

"There was a lot of cool shit you didn't see happening because everybody always wants to talk about Cap and the damn hammer"

Deleted member 43657 · Feb 6, 2021

AnotherDayAnotherDollar said:
That's Feige and Marvel's true genius to be honest. They have every single project be able to stand on its own merit with enough background for people who are not vested in the whole universe to follow along, but at the same time give enough to people who are into it to nerd out. Feige has talked about this, both as a producer and as a consumer, but it's very amazing how they pull that off every time.

You get some hardcore fans complaining since they "know" everything but for the most part most people end up enjoying what they watched whether they have watched previous Marvel Studios projects or not.

Just one? I would say Iron Man, the one that started it all.

Yeah, I'm truly impressed. Really great show so far.

Yasuke · Feb 6, 2021

IDreamOfHime said:
You don't think Fury, Shield, or Sword had the Avengers do some kind of debriefing and talk through what went down?

Of course I do, but to give a play by play so that normies know exactly what happened and who could've taken who down but for whatever is a bit much.

GreenMamba said:
I am definitely thinking now that Monica might already have had powers to begin with, and her mother's death might be a way of explaining why she wasn't present in Endgame's final battle maybe.

I'm imagining a final big fight scene for WandaVision with Wanda, Pietro, Vision, and Monica all letting loose... ah I'm too excited.

There's no reason to believe Monica either has powers or would have been recruited to fight Thanos.

Dalek · Feb 6, 2021

Sou Da said:
None.

X-Men people. Am I right?

Sandstar · Feb 6, 2021

megadarve said:
Probably didn't count on people zooming in on the screens, or forgot about this prop in the last episode. Pretty minor I guess? lol

I consider anything that isn't made clear to the audience to be non-canon, or at least semi-canon, unless it's contradicted by the show, as this was.

Saifu · Feb 6, 2021

So y'all think Evan Peters' Pietro is here to stay as the "new" Quicksilver of the MCU?
Or is he really just a guest star for this series specifically?
I honestly prefer to have Aaron Taylor Johnson to come back if they do plan to definitively revive Quicksilver in the MCU.

Wolf · Feb 6, 2021

Saifu said:
So y'all think Evan Peters' Pietro is here to stay as the "new" Quicksilver of the MCU?
Or is he really just a guest star for this series specifically?
I honestly prefer to have Aaron Taylor Johnson to come back if they do plan to definitively revive Quicksilver in the MCU.

He's sticking around 100%. And there will almost certainly be more actors from the Xmen movies coming too.

Bufbaf · Feb 6, 2021

lunarworks said:
Interesting on how when they were getting a briefing on her past the question was pressed if she had any special nickname. I'm surprised they had restraint and didn't try to force-coin "The Scarlet Witch" there.

Absolutely :D

I guess Agatha will have some kind of Red Witch title and Wanda will get hers out of that or something. Scarlet Witch is such a weirdly unnatural name to just coin with a few throwaway lines.

ZeoVGM · Feb 6, 2021

Wolf said:
He's sticking around 100%. And there will almost certainly be more actors from the Xmen movies coming too.

Not sure how you could ever call this a 100% thing. He'll be here. And perhaps in a multiverse Secret Wars team-up movie.

But they're not going to overly confuse the MCU with tons of actors from the X-Men films. The MCU will still be rebooting X-Men in their own way.

Any Fox characters will be cameos or minor characters.

Bufbaf · Feb 6, 2021

Saifu said:
So y'all think Evan Peters' Pietro is here to stay as the "new" Quicksilver of the MCU?
Or is he really just a guest star for this series specifically?
I honestly prefer to have Aaron Taylor Johnson to come back if they do plan to definitively revive Quicksilver in the MCU.

No nonono no please God no. ATJ or bust. I'll allow the guest starring for this but that's it.

FaceHugger · Feb 6, 2021

That episode was wildly good.

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