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WandaVision | Paul Bettany is in this | Fridays on Disney+

Royalan

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Shroki said:
It just doesn't matter how they knew because that whole sequence was odd, stilted and there was probably a better way to write that.

It just didn't work for me.
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Same for me.

I mean, there are ways to logically work out how the characters would know. But the whole Woo going, "well actually, some people think Captain Marvel could have bla bla bla..." really just came off as the show acknowledging fan debate, because it's one thing to know the details of the Endgame battle, but they were basically arguing power levels.
 
DeathPeak

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This episode was an overload of information. Loved it! MCU continues to get better. As far as giving Wanda her nickname goes, I can see it going one of two ways. Woo comes up with it in a jokey moment, or Sword director guy uses it in a fit of anger in an argument to refer to Wanda. Something like, "we've got thousands of people in that town and that scarlet witch is holding them hostage."
 
Parthenios

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Shroki said:
It just doesn't matter how they knew because that whole sequence was odd, stilted and there was probably a better way to write that.

It just didn't work for me.
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Yeah, them knowing the details or talking about them isn't a problem, it's only 3 weeks ago and one of the biggest events in human history.

I just wish they'd written the scene a little better. A little longer, and more like how actual humans would have that convo (debating power levels, Jimmy and Darcy trying to one up who was more important, Scott or Thor, that sort of thing).

"It was Scott coming back with Pym particles and convincing Stark that time travel was possible that saved the day!"

"No way, it was Cap wielding mew mew that held Thanos off long enough for the portals to open!"
 
PlanetSmasher

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Shroki said:
I feel like a Doctor Strange cameo is likely to be a post-credits type deal, and they probably shot/are going to shoot it while filming Dr Strange 2 in London.
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Apparently Elizabeth went from shooting this show DIRECTLY to DS2, and Cactosplash was in the Wandavision launch stream multiple times, so I imagine yeah. Strange's appearance will likely all be in the final episode if that.
 
RepairmanJack

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This episode was crazy good. Only weird complaint is the outside Hex stuff when it was most of the episode was great, but this episode I didn't really like it.
 
Wispmetas

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Royalan said:
Same for me.

I mean, there are ways to logically work out how the characters would know. But the whole Woo going, "well actually, some people think Captain Marvel could have bla bla bla..." really just came off as the show acknowledging fan debate, because it's one thing to know the details of the Endgame battle, but they were basically arguing power levels.
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Because arguing power levels is something people woudn't do on a world with actual super heroes?
 
Neoxon

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That1GoodHunter said:
I wonder if
Mephisto/Nightmare are behind the quicksilver shenanigans, if maybe Evan is actually playing the MCU's version of Mephisto/Nightmare, and the multiverse is not quite into play at this point during the show.
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That's what I'm thinking. Wanda's reaction makes it clear that not only did she initially not recognize this Pietro/Peter, but also that him showing up wasn't Wanda's doing.
 
PlanetSmasher

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Neoxon said:
That's what I'm thinking. Wanda's reaction makes it clear that not only did she initially not recognize this Pietro/Peter, but also that him showing up wasn't Wanda's doing.
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Yeah. She only actually talks to him AFTER he identifies himself as her brother. Before he says anything she's just confused.
 
Royalan

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Wispmetas said:
Because arguing power levels is something people woudn't do on a world with actual super heroes?
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I mean, it's not that I don't think the average person would argue. But it came off as a weird bit of dialogue between those two characters in that particular moment.
 
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Royalan said:
Same for me.

I mean, there are ways to logically work out how the characters would know. But the whole Woo going, "well actually, some people think Captain Marvel could have bla bla bla..." really just came off as the show acknowledging fan debate, because it's one thing to know the details of the Endgame battle, but they were basically arguing power levels.
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All I did while reading this was wonder how you'll react to Kamala Khan fangirling out over the other heroes, especially Carol Danvers. lol
 
Royalan

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Fuzzy said:
All I did while reading this was wonder how you'll react to Kamala Khan fangirling out over the other heroes, especially Carol Danvers. lol
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LOL I mean, I don't hate fanservice! I'd hate Deadpool if that were the case.

I just thought it was cheesy dialogue in this particular moment. Which has been my issue with most of the S.W.O.R.D. scenes.
 
Rhaknar

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watching the ep now and yeah that scene you guys are talking about was ridiculous. How would they even know "wanda went one on one with Thanos" it's not like the battle was televised. It 100% sounded like fanboy internet discussion and it totally took me out of it.

that being said, great ep so far.
 
Fuzzy

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Royalan said:
LOL I mean, I don't hate fanservice! I'd hate Deadpool if that were the case.

I just thought it was cheesy dialogue in this particular moment. Which has been my issue with most of the S.W.O.R.D. scenes.
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And most of them have featured at least one of the two comic relief characters, if not both. lol
 
Big Baybee

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Rhaknar said:
watching the ep now and yeah that scene you guys are talking aboutw as ridiculous. How would they even know "wanda went one on one with Thanos" it's not like the battle was televised. It 100% sounded like fanboy internet discussion and it totally took me out of it.

that being said, great ep so far.
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Y'all being serious about this? Like is this small back and forth really breaking the universe for you? Lol I can't tell.
 
That1GoodHunter

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Wanda and Quicksilver's origin stories are the worst byproduct of Disney not securing Xmen earlier :/
 
Rhaknar

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Big Baybee said:
Y'all being serious about this? Like is this small back and forth really breaking the universe for you? Lol I can't tell.
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where did I say it "broke the universe"? I said it took me out of the episode.

Giod forbid people critisize something in a Marvel product apparently. And I thought I was the biggest MCU fanboy around O_o
 
Royalan

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Fuzzy said:
And most of them have featured at least one of the two comic relief characters, if not both. lol
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I mean, I am aware of this. This isn't my first trip into the MCU.

Am I not allowed to criticize any aspect of the show despite being clear that I'm enjoying it?
 

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After what Wanda did in Age of Ultron, killing people in Civil War and now in this show I don't know how she isn't the most wanted criminal in the world.
 
Big Baybee

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Rhaknar said:
where did I say it "broke the universe"? I said it took me out of the episode.

Giod forbid people critisize something in a Marvel product apparently. And I thought I was the biggest MCU fanboy around O_o
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But why? This isn't fanboy stuff. You are talking about literal government agents who would have access to this info and literally know heroes that were involved in the battle.
 
jph139

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0h-so-Cold said:
So who's more powerful, Carol Danvers or Monica Rambeau??
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In a fight, Monica would PROBABLY win. She's sentient light - she's capable of moving, thinking, and acting at the speed of light. She's the sort of character that can theoretically fly into your head and turn off your brain before you realize she's coming.

But she tends to be limited by her human perception (and writers not knowing how to deal with that powerset), so in practical terms it's probably a tossup. And when it comes to sheer energy output, Carol wins - she's a shotgun where Monica's a sniper rifle, in a sense.
 
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Royalan said:
LOL I mean, I don't hate fanservice! I'd hate Deadpool if that were the case.

I just thought it was cheesy dialogue in this particular moment. Which has been my issue with most of the S.W.O.R.D. scenes.
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Folks just got to accept that all the cheesy ( but necessary) exposition dialogue is gonna happen with the S.W.O.R.D scenes. I was fine with stuff being opaque but prior to episode 4 we had weeks of people asking " Is this taking place before Infinity War, isn't Vision Dead, What are Wanda's powers etc". Its a necessary evil I am fine with since they are letting Olsen and Bettany cook acting wise inside their scenes.
 
Christian

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The Scarlet Witch/Captain Marvel vs. Thanos dialogue was also clearly there to introduce the idea that Monica is pissed at Carol. Probably because Monica's mother died alone while Carol was off trotting around the galaxy.
 
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