I think he'll definitely be a thing he just won't be "Iron Lad" he'll be something actually cool
SWORD was already involved in the first ep, at least they were already monitoring the situation.
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I think he'll definitely be a thing he just won't be "Iron Lad" he'll be something actually cool
SWORD was already involved in the first ep, at least they were already monitoring the situation.
I really don't know anything about the comics, but it's bizarre to me that people think they're going to use this show to introduce Mephisto, a character whose existence kinda upends the established theology and power structures of the MCU. It seems like they would want to do that further down the line, and in a more high-profile project. To have Mephisto show up now would be like having Loki suddenly appear at the end of Iron Man 1 or something. Or if they suddenly revealed that all of WandaVision was a simulation in Professor X's Danger Room......it's just too out-of-leftfield for too many viewers.
It's also weird that people think her kids are going to stick around and become part of some Young Avengers squad. Whatever's going on, I don't think Wanda is going to come out of it with anything other than trauma. Vision ain't sticking around, her twins aren't going to become fully grown teens who join the MCU. Some part of me thinks that the bizarre sanitized 50's & 60's sitcom structure is her mind coming to terms with the fact that her partner is incapable of basic "husbandly relations"......she's chosen a reality where they sleep in separate twin beds, and the conception of their children doesn't require sex to explicitly happen.
It's also weird that people think her kids are going to stick around and become part of some Young Avengers squad. Whatever's going on, I don't think Wanda is going to come out of it with anything other than trauma. Vision ain't sticking around, her twins aren't going to become fully grown teens who join the MCU. Some part of me thinks that the bizarre sanitized 50's & 60's sitcom structure is her mind coming to terms with the fact that her partner is incapable of basic "husbandly relations"......she's chosen a reality where they sleep in separate twin beds, and the conception of their children doesn't require sex to explicitly happen.
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in all seriosness you say you aren't familiar with the source material and the source material is exactly what people are referring to. Young Avengers is coming-and Billy and Tommy are members of that team. And Mephisto is responsible for their initial existence.
The kids will stick around and become Young Avengers in a few years. They're already introducing Kate Bishop on another Disney+ series.
Its pretty much the same arc from the comics, Wanda poofed them into existence and then they reappear aged up into Wiccan and Speed.
...man, speed is a really generic superhero name.
Well this is the first Phase 4 project, Marvel is def going to start setting things up and we already know this ties in to the next Dr Strange film.
To be fair Speed became basically a supporting character and Wiccan became A-List.
Mephisto isn't any weirder than Dormammu at the end of the day and Billy and Tommy are established superheroes in the comics already.
Not familiar with the comic books but those Young Avengers names that people keep mentioning here are like...I don't know, if I was an Avenger and someone with the name Iron Lad, Hulkling or Wiccan came up to me I'd tell them they absolutely cannot sit with us
That was awesome. I thought for a second when they mentioned maybe it would be a girl...I was like...no they won't.
Yeah this was a trip, really nice touch.
And after that ending, I am starting to think Wanda would be a huge threat as a villain and Olsen would knock it out of the park. I never saw the MCU Wanda the way I saw her just at the final moment.
My gf and I both had our jaws dropped and sat up in silence.
This is getting juicy.
I get that Billy & Tommy are established characters in the comics. It's just purely my gut intuition that they won't really be sticking around in any material way. The illusions of the WandaVision reality will come crashing down sooner or later, and the twins will disappear with it. I think that their inclusion is a nod to the comics, but that they aren't going to follow the established comic-book arcs to the letter in the same way that Civil War was not the same as the comics either. I could be completely wrong of course, and maybe Mephisto will eventually show up and force Wanda to give up some part of herself in exchange for the twins' continued existence.
I think that a Disney+ series would be a weird place to confirm that the MCU essentially follows the hierarchy of Christian theology, just because that is a revelation big enough to include in a feature film rather than a TV show sidestory.
Luke Skywalker showed up in Mandalorian. Disney+ is not "side story" - this is the featured presentation.
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Pointing out that we have no idea how important Disney considers their Disney+ shows. We are going to get characters like Ms Marvel and She Hulk on Disney+, who could have had their own movies. It's not "just a tv sidestory", I'm pretty sure they want these series to be important to the MCU.
I haven't seen season 2 of Mandalorian. Thanks.
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wow missed it the first time but Vision specifically looks *into* the camera just before saying that there's something wrong.
So creepy and awesome.
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These Disney+ shows are literally setting the stage for phase 4 (or whatever we're calling the next decade of Marvel feature films) of the MCU. These aren't side stories. They are feature stories that will share the limelight with the feature films. Major characters and events will be introduced and developed on Disney+.
Call me crazy, but during the behind the scenes of the Spider-Man ride, Peter Parker is riding with a young girl who looks exactly like Moon Girl from the comics. Maybe I'm just stretching things though.
This is not a sidestory. This is the first part of the next arc.
Also Mephisto isn't literally the Christian Devil. He's a demon from another dimension who's styled after him.
This episode was craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy, man I love and hate this weekly style of episode release.
CAN'T WAIT.
CAN'T WAIT.
I have a theory that the reason she goes from zero to essentially giving birth is... She was pregnant the whole time.
She got pregnant right before Infinity War with Vision. All of this has been her wanting to have a normal life for her and her kids and all of this is her trying to emotionally cope with giving birth while being a single parent who tragically lost her love.
She got pregnant right before Infinity War with Vision. All of this has been her wanting to have a normal life for her and her kids and all of this is her trying to emotionally cope with giving birth while being a single parent who tragically lost her love.
They could just say that Memphisto is more like cosmic being from another realm like dormammu that just happen to mess around on earth. Didn't have to be directly related to Christian theology
It's 2 characters that's had 20 minutes of screen time talking over multiple movies
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Wakandans follow Egyptian and Hindu gods. It's not that serious.
How much are they really spending on WandaVision? I've heard it quoted as high as 25M per episode, but that seems like a lot for these low-scale sitcom parodies without a lot of action or CG.
That was the budget, so just what they couldn't go over, but also don't think that just because it looks like a low-scale parody that it's cheap either, they had to go out of their way to do a lot to extremely accurately copy these sitcoms because they wanted it to be authentic and not a parody, including making tons of custom lenses for each time period for modern cameras that would accurately mimic the lenses of the time period.
The wording is key here. As high as 25m per episode. Which means not every episode will go up to that budget. The high budget episodes, with lots of CG and whatnot are likely stacked towards the end of the season.
Honestly I think it's just supposed to go with the low budget nature of sitcoms. He can fly super fast, in a real sitcom it would be "we can't afford to show that" just speed up the tape and he'll be super fast.
Also the Doctor mentioned it was "like they were flying" so I think it's just to be sitcom shorthand for "he has super powers". Much like how Wanda's red glow hasn't shown up yet.
The Brady Bunch movies were probably budgeted at less than 20M for 90 minutes of period-accurate sets, costumes, and film-style. Maybe the final episodes of Wandavision are full of huge CG setpieces or something, but it's hard to imagine these first few episodes really breaking the bank.
I think the wording was 'as much as' 25M per episode by the way. However, I think that was said in the context of having 6 episodes of an hour each. So, for a six hour show that's a budget of 150M. It would stand to reason that that 150M is spread out over 9 episodes for WandaVision. Probably indeed with more money going into the last three episodes than to the first six.
Need to pull a Kate Bishop and just take the name they are waiting to free up. Except Wiccan. He needs to figure that out himself.
It's actual been around since 75. It was originally the CHAMPIONS of Los Angeles.
Your also thinking the wrong usage of champion. The team name refers to the definition of champion that means one that does battle for another's rights or honor.
In another world they are our Champions, who fight for us.
Agreed, and don't quite understand how some people still think it's a terrible basic trope as if the directors wouldn't have an intent with it lol
In the MCU, the humans mostly go by their real names anyway. It'll probably be ok.
just rewatched episode 2 and I just realized Agnes makes an indirect multifaceted reference to the Devil. Dottie is making a speech and says the Devil is in the details, and then Agnes says "that's not the only place he's in" It seemed like a funny one-liner that was meant to poke fun at Dottie, but if theories are any indication, there's definitely more to it.
AIM was already introduced in Iron Man 3. The villain in Antman and the wasp was theorised to have been trying to get Pym tech for AIM. There were Beekeepers in the concept art for the movie too.
My new theory is that the Beekeeper we saw is really wearing a Beekeeper suit, controlling Bees like the way Antman controls ants. The part where they're working with Sword is what I can't explain away.
I don't think AIM and Sword would be working together if it is AIM. They both could be after the same thing, figuring out what is going on and in AIM's case, controlling it.
"I'm telling you, it's Wanda! She is the big bad!"
Yup. That's the part I can't reconcile. But the Beekeeper suit had a Sword logo.
It's kind of cool that the real world has the cinematic aspect ratio.
It really makes me think that not only will we probably see it again when we see the real world again, but we could really get a movie within the TV show later on. Kind of a fun idea for them to play with.
It really makes me think that not only will we probably see it again when we see the real world again, but we could really get a movie within the TV show later on. Kind of a fun idea for them to play with.
That would be pretty funny if Darcy wasn't brought into SWORD because of any scientific expertise but because of her expertise in classic TV sitcoms.