Wait, there is no shut down the Switch via controller?!

Deleted member 23046 · Feb 16, 2020

Darknight said:
So I don't see how you can say it wasn't an accurate comment to make in response to what was stated.

He wants to shut off the Switch because right before, he cuts off all electricity to the dock.

So the Switch is entering in handled mode, not more plugged to anything.

In his exemple the battery is pumped like if used in a nomad idle mode.

Deleted member 27751 · Feb 16, 2020

Shoes said:
I don't use standby on any of my systems and do think it's a bit odd that there is no option to completely power down the Switch via controller.

However, I get that I'm in the minority here and am not gonna start screaming at people about this like the OP, lmao

EDIT: I goofed up, meant to say I don't use rest or sleep mode as opposed to standby.

There is. That's what we've told the OP already but they ignored it and went on a tirade about how small inklings of power consumption matter and that it's incredibly inconvenient to turn off the Switch manually once every six weeks.

Darknight · Feb 16, 2020

Manfred said:
He wants to shut off the Switch because right before, he cuts off all electricity to the dock.

So the Switch is entering in handled mode, not more plugged to anything.

In his exemple the battery is pumped like if used in a nomad idle mode.

I understand what that poster wants. Shutting it off the way that poster wants doesn't stop battery drain though. If they're not playing it for an extended period of time then that could lead to more wear on the battery than just leaving it in sleep mode. They questioned why they should bother with having it constantly active and that is the reason to do it. It is a perfectly reasonable response when they're questioning what is the benefit of doing it in a way they don't want it to behave. What they want could be worse for the health of the system.

Minotaur · Feb 16, 2020

I hate it too. See no reason why they couldn't just give the option of shutting it off with a controller.
But w.e I just get up and walk over and shut it off.

Yahsper · Feb 16, 2020

Why is no one bringing up that when the Switch is fully turned off, plugging the dock back in (OP using his socket remote) will not turn the Switch back on?

OP said himself he only uses the Switch a couple of times a year. Unless OP also goes through the trouble of manually turning on the Switch every morning without him needing to use it, I don't see what his problem is.

Mendrox · Feb 16, 2020

No reason to with it having that small of charge. We are literally talking in cents over a year here.

SixelAlexiS · Feb 16, 2020

neptunez said:
Believe it not, completely shutting down your electronics can be a good thing.

Have a friend that has an iPhone 6 since it's launch with 85% battery health because they've practiced shutting down their phone every night.

I do this too. And God I forgot about this stupid thing that you can't easly turn off Switch, I would hate that too.
I always turn off PS4 too, why the hell I should let the thing stay on 90% of the time if it's not going to be used... just nonsense.

Mendrox · Feb 16, 2020

SixelAlexiS said:
I do this too. And God I forgot about this stupid thing that you can't easly turn off Switch, I would hate that too.
I always turn off PS4 too, why the hell I should let the thing stay on 90% of the time if it's not going to be used... just nonsense.

So you plug it from the power source? Otherwise it's not turned off at all.

Łazy · Feb 16, 2020

Lol that drama over nothing.

If I want something unplugged I unplug it.
Yes, even in 2020, we still walk.
I like that over stupid remotes everywhere.

If I could actually raise the electric curtains myself I'd rather do it manually that with a remote.

Im surprised people don't know that you can turn the switch off when it's docked.

wideface · Feb 16, 2020

I agree, OP. I put my Switch to sleep 95% of the time, but sometimes I just want to turn it off and it's mildly annoying that you can't do it using the controller.

Rare Opiums · Feb 16, 2020

I don't remember any device that I own could be turned off completely by using remote controller

Sir Hound · Feb 16, 2020

You're probably wasting more electricity with the extra time wasted from booting the game from scratch.

dom · Feb 16, 2020

Yahsper said:
Why is no one bringing up that when the Switch is fully turned off, plugging the dock back in (OP using his socket remote) will not turn the Switch back on?

OP said himself he only uses the Switch a couple of times a year. Unless OP also goes through the trouble of manually turning on the Switch every morning without him needing to use it, I don't see what his problem is.

It does turn on though?

Deleted member 33515 · Feb 16, 2020

the gist of this thread is this:
- if you don't do X you're stupid (general), there is no need to do X anyway
- no one knows how batteries work
- if the switch is plugged in it just works! and it doesn't eat power, never! turning stuff off is so 90s

PerrierChaud · Feb 16, 2020

dock said:
My first gaming system was the ZX Spectrum which could only be powered off by unplugging the power cable. It had no power switch.

ok boomer

Nanashrew · Feb 16, 2020

The last time a console could be fully shut off and have all of its electrical power cut was the OG PS3 model because it had a switch in the back to cut the power manually.

Deleted member 4970 · Feb 16, 2020

I'd suggest switching to that rest mode life. I used to never use it due to thinking it'd cost a lot.

I ended up doing the math and I calculated that if I left my PS4 Pro running a game in rest mode, for an entire year, it'd only cost around $10 a year. I don't use it to just use it, but it's nice knowing that I can now without worry. The Switch uses a ton less power than a PS4 Pro, especially if you have the updated SOC model.

Side note: The PS5 is supposedly going to only use 0.5w in rest mode with a game running so I'm curious to see how that pans out as it'd be amazing

Deleted member 4247 · Feb 16, 2020

Is made to be left in standby, like a phone.

Zem · Feb 16, 2020

lol at turning off the entire entertaining unit each night

Yuntu · Feb 16, 2020

This is the biggest issue I have with the Switch. I hate it.

I want to power my shit off and not just having the home button on the controller do the same thing is dumb.

ggx2ac · Feb 16, 2020

Minotaur said:
I hate it too. See no reason why they couldn't just give the option of shutting it off with a controller.
But w.e I just get up and walk over and shut it off.

Because people will think there's something wrong with their Switch when it doesn't turn on when they're trying to use the Pro Controller to turn it on.

soqquatto said:
the gist of this thread is this:
- if you don't do X you're stupid (general), there is no need to do X anyway
- no one knows how batteries work
- if the switch is plugged in it just works! and it doesn't eat power, never! turning stuff off is so 90s

In this thread, people think they can turn off the PS4 completely with their controller and wonder why the Switch doesn't do the same thing.

ekim · Feb 16, 2020

Zem said:
lol at turning off the entire entertaining unit each night

I'm doing the same. First and foremost to save energy.

EagleClaw · Feb 16, 2020

I'm just fascinated by the fact that for most people on here it is absolutely outlandish to shut down some home entertainment while not using it or
while on work for 10 hrs.

KtSlime · Feb 16, 2020

EagleClaw said:
I'm just fascinated by the fact that for most people on here it is absolutely outlandish to shut down some home entertainment while not using it or
while on work for 10 hrs.

That's because most people don't, as it's annoying to have to plug in and unplug the tv very time you want to use it and constantly have to keep setting the time.

EagleClaw · Feb 16, 2020

KtSlime said:
That's because most people don't, as it's annoying to have to plug in and unplug the tv very time you want to use it and constantly have to keep setting the time.

Well, i have a remote app for my outlets.
Never said anything about unpluging something, i never unplug anything, but control my outlets and lights per remote.

KtSlime · Feb 16, 2020

EagleClaw said:
Well, i have a remote app for my outlets.
Never said anything about unpluging something, i never unplug anything, but control my outlets and lights per remote.

And that doesn't use energy transmitting and receiving packets from your Wi-Fi?

sweetmini · Feb 16, 2020

There is -or at least was- a reason to fully "switch" off: the switch has/had memory leaks issues in its OS and it makes/made crashes more frequent on high memory consumption games, like City Skylines. There also was a memory leak in the sleep mode not long ago, i remember the Witcher 3 notes asking to close reopen the game and not resuming from sleep.

Other people budget conscious might want to limit as much as possible the small accumulated consumption of sleeping devices.

EagleClaw · Feb 16, 2020

KtSlime said:
And that doesn't use energy transmitting and receiving packets from your Wi-Fi?

Pretty sure it does use some energy.
Never said i'm an energy saver.
I just turn off electronics i don't use,
prevents malfunction while i'm not at home and secures the electronics further against some overvoltage damage.

Every one can feel free to do it like someone wants to, i just was fascinated that turning something completely off is seen as this outlandish,
maybe it is some cultural thing.

Choppasmith · Feb 16, 2020

I swear I'm having deja vu with this thread. I swear we had this same exact thread a couple months after the Switch launched compete with OP saying he wants to turn the Switch completely off and everyone trying to convince him he was wrong.

ROMASS · Feb 16, 2020

I find more annoying that there's no fast way to shut off Wi-Fi in docked mode. There's that half airplane mode where you can keep using wireless controllers but it can be activated only when it's undocked.

NHarmonic. · Feb 16, 2020

soqquatto said:
the gist of this thread is this:
- if you don't do X you're stupid (general), there is no need to do X anyway
- no one knows how batteries work
- if the switch is plugged in it just works! and it doesn't eat power, never! turning stuff off is so 90s

Pretty much. I guess in some countries they leave everything on forever? Like laptops, consoles, etc even when they don't use them.

I still don't get it.

Rotobit · Feb 16, 2020

I turn off my power strip if I'm leaving the house for a couple hours, mostly out of force-of-habit and a weird fear sparked by a terrifying outlet fire PSA ad I saw when I was like 8. I basically never sleep mode things like PCs and the PS4 for longer than 3 hours either, that doesn't seem energy efficient at all - you can even hear the PS4's fans going.

All that said, I think the Switch solution is fine, but I don't like that the slightest nudge while it's in the dock after you've powered it off will turn it back on again automatically.

neon_dream · Feb 16, 2020

Power Consumption of The Nintendo Switch - Nerdburglars Gaming

Find out what the power consumption of the Nintendo switch is through various different tests in standby mode, main menu and in game to see how efficient the Nintendo switch is.

nerdburglars.net

Switch's power draw in standby is extremely low in most cases.

Herb Alpert · Feb 16, 2020

PerrierChaud said:
ok boomer

What is the sense of this reply ? Is it just about downplaying someone's argument on the basis of the age of this person ? Cause if so this is a little dumb.
It's no different from stupid geezers downplaying younger people because they're young...

Swift_Gamer · Feb 16, 2020

Why would you do that unless you're traveling?

EagleClaw · Feb 16, 2020

neon_dream said:
Power Consumption of The Nintendo Switch - Nerdburglars Gaming

Find out what the power consumption of the Nintendo switch is through various different tests in standby mode, main menu and in game to see how efficient the Nintendo switch is.

nerdburglars.net

Switch's power draw in standby is extremely low in most cases.

Well, because everyone is talking about energy saving:
The switch does use 0.1W in standby, that would be 8.76kWh per year,
There are around 17m switch sold in the US, that would be almost 149m kWh per year just in the US.
1 kWh costs in the US around $0.09, that would be $13.4m for the energy sector just because all switch run on standby.
That is a great business ;-)

superNESjoe · Feb 16, 2020

PerrierChaud said:
ok boomer

This meme has just turned into a free ticket for people to be rude thinking they're being funny.

CloseTalker · Feb 16, 2020

What an odd situation. This is a bit of a you problem, OP. I've never heard of a person cutting power to their devices like that. I guess I get the reasoning though. That said, products are generally designed with features that cater to its intended purpose, and the Switch isn't really ever intended to be shut off completely, especially if it's docked. So yeah, they could have the option, but they could have the option to do lots of things.

superNESjoe said:
This meme has just turned into a free ticket for people to be rude thinking they're being funny.

(thats what it always was)

Blackpuppy · Feb 16, 2020

According to this article, the PS4 consumes 10 watts in sleep mode and 0.3 watts when "turned off". That's three times more than the Switch's sleep mode.

Deleted member 8791 · Feb 16, 2020

TIL people think they can completely cut power to their PS4 and then turn it on with a controller.

EagleClaw · Feb 16, 2020

Chauzu said:
TIL people think they can completely cut power to their PS4 and then turn it on with a controller.

I do that almost every second day.

Transistor · Feb 16, 2020

It's funny because I'm the exact opposite of OP. I have multiple battery backups hooked up to my home theater to ensure it never goes off.

test_account · Feb 16, 2020

Seems kinda strange that you cant access this feature from the controller. The system itself has the option afterall, so i wonder why they wont allow you to select it with a controller.

vrcsix · Feb 16, 2020

It would be great to have the option for sure. Rebooting the system as well. Other appliances designed to sleep have these functions. The Switch is ridiculously barebones, and system software development seems really slow at Nintendo for whatever reason. We've gotten very little in terms of useful feature updates during the last three years.

Valcrist · Feb 16, 2020

Heyrule said:
Yeah me neither, same with my PS4. Why would you?

I turn my PS4 off because the rest light annoys me. :x
If only you could turn that off, I'd totally keep it in rest mode.

iRAWRasaurus · Feb 16, 2020

I get the op. I turn my switch off a lot since I don't use it fir months at a time.

but lol the first page of hostile people smh.

Zukuu · Feb 16, 2020

Sölf said:
Guess I am also one of the abnormal persons, because I would also like to power off my switch with my controller, since I also turn off the entire power outlet if I don't actively use any of the consoles (as in, I am done and I turn it off). And if I don't play anything there it is indeed powered off for weeks/months.

Welp.

Darknight said:
Having the battery charged is better than having the battery completely drained for the health of the battery. Lithium Ion batteries don't like to be completely drained and leaving it disconnected from a power source for months or even weeks will leave the battery drained.

I dunno what kind of electronics you have, but it wouldn't even remotely be drained entirely. I have a 6 year old phone I use for a single app every few weeks to a few months which I shut completely down between sessions... guess what. It's almost still full, because why wouldn't it - it doesn't have to use any electricity to keep anything in the RAM.

Lithium batteries have a deterioration the more often you charge them - in particular beyond 80% that's just a fucking scientific fact. Hawing that happening daily for weeks / months if you don't even use it is dumb.

Lithium-ion battery - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

MouldyK · Feb 16, 2020

Blackpuppy said:
According to this article, the PS4 consumes 10 watts in sleep mode and 0.3 watts when "turned off". That's three times more than the Switch's sleep mode.

That's why you unplug it!

Deleted member 18161 · Feb 16, 2020

Zukuu said:
How is the option to fucking turn something off that weird to you? Even if you don't use it, it should be an OPTION.
The fucking menu is there if you undock that shit, so why not fucking have it accessible via a controller aswell?!

You're being aggressive as fuck dude. Most people will be happy enough having their Switch on standby when docked where it will recharge or stay on full power (you know part of it's main design / selling point). The option to completely power it down exists by removing the system from the dock and doing it manually. I fail to see how that's anymore of an issue than complaining "wah wah my HDTV makes me get up and press a button on the actual hardware, why can't I do that from my controller!!!"

What a strange thing to get aggressively upset over lol.

Chackan · Feb 16, 2020

People still shutdown their consoles?? My PS4 and my Switch are always on sleep/standby!

Wait, there is no shut down the Switch via controller?!

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