Wait a minute. If you're in Antarctica, would you use a fridge to keep food warm?

[SofNascimento]

Maybe it's because I live in a country with tropical (not really) weather. But for me the purpose of a fridge has always been to keep food on a cool temperature. In other words, the temprature outside the fridge has always been hotter than the one inside.

But what if it was the other way around? If you're living in a place with very cold weather, mainly less than 0 degree, you'd be using a fridge, and a freezer, to keep food warm rather than cold.

That's quite awesome. Now, I suppose the purpose of such domestic utensil comes from a steady temperature as much as from a cold or hot one, but still... I never thought about it this way.

Have you ever thought about it this way?

 

[Stopdoor]

I mean, I assume you'd already be living indoors, in normal indoor temperatures.

 

[Coyote Starrk]

How high are you right now?

 

[Deleted member 197]

Do you think air conditioners help keep a room warm if it is colder outside than the temperature at which you set the AC?

 

[Mr. Keith]

If you live in the desert do you use your heater to cool down your home? I've always been curious.

 

[BasilZero]

But what if it was the other way around? If you're living in a place with very cold weather, mainly less than 0 degree, you'd be using a fridge, and a freezer, to keep food warm rather than cold.

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What?


Oh...its Weekend already.

 

[Truly Gargantuan]

- live in Antarctica
- Forget heaters exist
- ???
- Get stuck in a fridge.

 

[SofNascimento]

How high are you right now?

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760m

Do you think air conditioners help keep a room warm if it is colder outside than the temperature at which you set the AC?

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Holy shit. Is that even possible?

If you live in the desert do you use your heater to cool down your home? I've always been curious.

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I don't know enough about how heaters work to argue that.

 

[jman2050]

That's not how refrigerators work

 

[Cenauru]

Did you just type fridge on google for that picture? I have a feeling you don't quite know what that a picture of Control's fridge implies.

 

[Devilgunman]

what?

If you're living in sub-zero place, your ass stay indoor most of the time and the indoor temperature is warmed by a heater. There will be some parts of your house that the heat from the heater cannot reach so it is freezing cold. You keep your meat and other grocery there.

 

[Lady Bow]

How high are you right now?

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[SofNascimento]

That's not how refrigerators work

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Would a refrigerator stop working if the outside temperature is colder than the one it's meant to produce inside?

 

[Failburger]

You mean reverse flow and turn the fridge into a heat pump?

Sure, you could.

 

[tadaima]

Do you think air conditioners help keep a room warm if it is colder outside than the temperature at which you set the AC?

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My air con units do this

 

[Pet]

This is amazing, OP.

 

[Silvergun-Blue]

I remember Simone Giertz of shitty robots fame talking about her time living on a house boat in Sweden. In the winter it would be so cold the fridge was actually warmer than her house.

 

[electroshockwave]

How high are you right now?

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Hi, how are you?

 

[Pai Pai Master]

i wish i could get this high

 

[Hogger]

Oh yeah. We have liftoff, folks.

 

[SofNascimento]

I remember Simone Giertz of shitty robots fame talking about her time living on a house boat in Sweden. In the winter it would be so cold the fridge was actually warmer than her house.

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Woah.

 

[wisdom0wl]

Weekend ERA in full effect

 

[greepoman]

Would a refrigerator stop working if the outside temperature is colder than the one it's meant to produce inside?

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I'm pretty sure would perform as it designed. Once the temperature is below the set temperature it doesn't do anything during normal operation. They're pretty well insulated but if it was cold enough outside the temperature in the fridge would slowly go down to the outside temp. So the normal portion would turn into a freezer.

 

[SofNascimento]

I'm pretty sure would perform as it designed. Once the temperature is below the set temperature it doesn't do anything during normal operation. They're pretty well insulated but if it was cold enough outside the temperature in the fridge would slowly go down to the outside temp. So the normal portion would turn into a freezer.

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But the point is, it would be trying to keep the food warm... ?

 

[Khanimus]

Ah, the weekend is here.

 

[TheOMan]

I honestly forgot it was Friday night until I saw this thread.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

Technically it wouldn't be a refrigerator then

 

[RainbowIslands]

Would a refrigerator stop working if the outside temperature is colder than the one it's meant to produce inside?

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Refrigerators do one thing: They pump heat from the inside to the outside. Because it's warmer inside than outside, it'll probably pump the heat out even more efficiently. The fridge isn't completely isolated, so the heat will continue to escape until it reaches equilibrium with the outside (Antarctica). The food will cool over time since heat inside leaves for the outside.

That is, you can keep the food warmer if you unplug the fridge/leave it off because less heat loss.

 

[SofNascimento]

Did you just type fridge on google for that picture? I have a feeling you don't quite know what that a picture of Control's fridge implies.

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I can write an entire essay about this fridge and the awesome way in which Control develops its lore. For instance, this:

This is an origin story. Half of it anyway.

 

[SofNascimento]

Refrigerators do one thing: They pump heat from the inside to the outside. Because it's warmer inside than outside, it'll probably pump the heat out even more efficiently. The fridge isn't completely isolated, so the heat will continue to escape until it reaches equilibrium with the outside (Antarctica). The food will cool over time since heat inside leaves for the outside.

That is, you can keep the food warmer if you leave the fridge off because less heat loss.

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So a fridge would be more effective it turned off? Assuming, of course, it's original state in one in which the inside temperature is the one it was designed to achieve.

 

[greepoman]

But the point is, it would be trying to keep the food warm... ?

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I did say it would turn into freezer ... so no. There is no heat pump. But who leaves their fridge outside.

 

[hey it's that dog]

If you lived in Antarctica, what temperature do you think it would be inside your domicile, OP?

 

[RainbowIslands]

So a fridge would be more effective it turned off? Assuming, of course, it's original state in one in which the inside temperature is the one it was designed to achieve.

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Yea. It's basically a huge thermos. Unless you can reverse the heat pump and pump heat from outside to inside. I don't think fridges can work that way though, but I might be wrong.

 

[Sectorseven]

 

[BLEEN]

Did you forget how room temperature works?

 

[Deleted member 4367]

We had an outdoor coldroom at a brewery I worked at. It would get very cold at night in the winter and the coldroom helped insulate the beer and kept it from freezing.

So yes sort of?

 

[SofNascimento]

I did say it would turn into freezer ... so no. There is no heat pump. But who leaves their fridge outside.

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But without a source of heat, the temperature inside and outside would be the same, no?

Yea. It's basically a huge thermos. Unless you can reverse the heat pump and pump heat from outside to inside. I don't think fridges can work that way though, but I might be wrong.

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Interesting.

Did you forget how room temperature works?

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Yes. Feel free to explain.

 

[Fat4all]

 

[SofNascimento]

If you lived in Antarctica, what temperature do you think it would be inside your domicile, OP?

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Less than the one inside my fridge right now.

 

[Deleted member 12790]

Yes. And in Rand McNally they wear hats on their feet and hamburgers eat people

 

[Z-Beat]

My options are a fridge or burying a box of meat outside

 

[BLEEN]

Yes. Feel free to explain.

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LOL
Fine
If you're living there, you're going to be in a 🏠 or whatever. It's going to be 70°F or whatever you're usually comfortable with. Nothing changes about the fridge.

Did I really need to explain that? Or am I missing something?

 

[Deleted member 12790]

 

[Border]

A fridge shipped to Antarctica would keep its contents from freezing only by the virtue of its thick, insulated walls. Over the days and weeks thought the temperature inside the fridge would eventually match the temperature outside, and all its contents would freeze. The machinery inside only acts to cool.....so you would probably be better off leaving it unplugged since it would only act to speed the freezing of the food inside.

A fridge cannot heat its contents or work to counteract plunging temperatures outside its walls.

 

[hey it's that dog]

Less than the one inside my fridge right now.

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So you would be wearing an industrial grade parka indoors at all times and have no liquid water at your disposal?

 

[Commedieu]

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Guess where this is.

 

[Okabe]

I see the wait for RE8 is getting to you as well

 

[affeinvasion]

Assuming you're not just high off your gourd, here's a video explaining refrigeration. A refrigerator put into a colder area wouldn't turn on because of the thermostat, and eventually the fridge would get colder inside as the limited amount of heat inside the box escaped into the environment.

Chest Freezers; What they tell us about designing for X

This video is super cool. We're talking about refrigeration, and how the design of a refrigerator affects its energy consumption. Freezers are the perfect pl...

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[SofNascimento]

LOL
Fine
If you're living there, you're going to be in a 🏠 or whatever. It's going to be 70°F or whatever you're usually comfortable with. Nothing changes about the fridge.

Did I really need to explain that? Or am I missing something?

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You're assuming the house would have means to keep itself warm. In the OP I'm assuming the inside of the house would be just as cold as the ouside.

So you would be wearing an industrial grade parka indoors at all times and have no liquid water at your disposal?

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People have been living in sub-freezing temperatures before those things were invented. Probably not liquid water though, I think that was invented a long time ago.

I see the wait for RE8 is getting to you as well

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More like the disappointment with REmake 3...

Goddamn you Capcom. They are not back.

 

[BLEEN]

You're assuming the house would have means to keep itself warm. In the OP I'm assuming the inside of the house would be just as cold as the ouside.

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Then just say it's a fridge that's outside in Antarctica. No need to complicate matters here. In that case, everything is just going to freeze at an almost negligibly slower rate. Might as well just throw the food on the ground.

I don't get this thread at all, man lol