One side isn't bidding at all. They certainly could if they wanted to, but long term is it worth it for them. Thanks the calculation.
How long do you think Epic is going to keep up the practice of paying individual developers for exclusivity? Do you think they'll keep doing it once they have an install base on par with Steam, or if they manage to top them?
Forget about Steam because this is new info. You can sit there and say what happened after Youtube changed their algorithm was healthy for the growth of smaller creators?
you mean the exact same Pyre that bombed even harder on consoles? Fairly ridiculous to try to blame Steam for Pyre failing.
You replied lmao originally. Then edited. That's not really a reply. You think you are being attacked cus a dev criticised a large corporation who makes a large amount of money from them. The dev's allowed to complain about them. They aren't attacking you. Grow up.
they'll keep doing it as long as it is beneficial to them. presumably once epic becomes the new defacto place to buy games, they won't even have to bribe devs anymore, that'll just be the app with the biggest install base so developers will automatically look to have their game on the store.
I mean, so what? Worst case, he was paid by Epic to talk shit about Steam in an area where they deserve it? Still don't see an issue here.
With an excellent refund policy (Steam has a pretty fuckin good one) why not? Is your complaint about level of quality or standards of decency?
Skimming the article, I'm seeing a whole lot of "anonymous indie title" in there. One of the Tweets is even from a dev whose games all have less than 100 reviews on Steam dating back to like 2015.
We are discussion centric, plenty of us hardly play games :P (just kidding, of course, but discussions can be just as interesting as playing games sometimes imo).
I wasn't, my point was simply that being known, and making a quality game, is not a free ticket. Thus claiming that they don't need these kinds of deals doesn't really make sense.
I'm responding to someone who said I wasn't allowed to criticize the dev for their inability to code their games to support greater than 30fps.
Because he's criticizing Steam algorithm and nobody's mentioning the names of specific titles affected by it. Seems hard to criticize something you weren't affected by, and seems like he's just another dev offered a bag of money by Epic.
It has been fucking wild reading today's EGS threads, for real.
...but this is a proper bad opinion, wow. Digital storefronts do a lot of work for you in connecting you with your audience; they deserve to be reimbursed for this.
Haha holy fuck 😂
Just another day at OutragEra.
And that benefits any of us how? Once the curated, smaller pool of available games AND the cash bonus for signing up are both gone, how have developers benefited? Is an extra 18% of revenue enough to make up for, say, the earlier example offered of Steam devs making a third as much in the recent Winter sale as they did in older ones?
I mean, I don't disagree about Epic's bullshit. I'm not defending Epic. I'm not saying that Epic's great actually when I'm agreeing with Rami on Valve's bullshit.
Yeah, capping at 30 fps means you are being attacked. Again, grow up.
If you actually read the OP, that's pretty much exactly the context for what he said...
Yes, that quote is literally in the OP. People are responding to it by pointing out Vlambeer has sold an incredible amount of copies of their games on Steam.
I get his perspective but ultimately it's asinine and short-sighted. If he thinks an entire generation got wiped out, fine, what does he think about the fact that probably the majority of those games that were released when does been accessible on any other major platform in the first place.
I didn't say that, so don't put words in my mouth. I said that the kinds of developers getting these deals from Epic are not the kinds of developers Ismail is referring to when he talks about the "lost generation" of indie developers. They're established names who can take advantage of these new deals and platforms much more easily than the vast majority of other indies.
Both. Shit like "FEMINAZI: The Triggering " is being sold on steam right now and garbage like this makes it harder to wade through the mountains of stuff to find the actual indie gems. And again like I've said in other threads countless times Valves solution to this is the curator program or basically "Do it yourselves"
